The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 25 Mar 1932, p. 2

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At 2 o'clock this (Good Friday) morning the Ontario Legislature is dragging to a close on its 19382 sessional business, with debate on the Taylor -- McQuibban -- Hydro resolution occupying the time and attention of a sparse attendance of members. Late stages of this debate were featured by the fisry address of Dr. George A. McQuibban, Liberal Whip, who seized the chance presented through the resolution to reply to ad-- dress debate utterances of Premier Henry, and to "hurl back in the face of the Premier the charges that hc, Dr. McQuibban, had made "false statements" to the House in respect to certain power matlters. Of the speeches made by the Gov-- ernment members on the Hydro mat-- ter on the Address in reply to the Speech from the Throne, HMHon. Charles McCrea had "battled mightily, swung mightily, got a lot of fouls and finally been fanned out," said George A. McQuibban (Liberal, Wellington Northwest). Hon. G. H. Challies, he declared, "went to bat} and swung out," and Premier Henry "was a bad boy and had turned his | back and taken his place in the wings ; of the building." | D. J. Taylor -- (Progressive, North Grey), Frank Wilson (Consorvative, East Windsor), Hon. James Lyons (Conservative, Sault), and Russell Nesbitt (Conservative, Braccndale) had, along with Dr. McQuibban, taken part in the debate up to this hour. Among other things, he had sug-- gested "that there should be a steam plart in this Province as a stand--by plant until we could devalop our re-- sources in Ontario, and this would make it unnecessary to go into the market and contract for power that had to be paid for whether it is used "When, last year, I spoke on the cubject of export power, I said that it was taking place during the night, when we wore asleep and the Ameri-- cans were wide awake. "I claim," he continued, "that all our equipment may be cperated at peak purposes at Niagara, and may be utilized to give us all the peak we require." "I have never uttered one false statement to this House," declared Dr. McQuibban. "I have taken all my fig-- vures from Hydra documents, and if they are wrong it is they that are false, not I1." : 'Let the light shine in on this whole situation," argued Mr. Sinclair. "Let the public know what you say you know, Mr. Premier. And I'm your best friend when I say to you, sir, that this inquiry should be thrown wide open without any further delay." for the Prime Minister to take in declaring that if the Commission felt it should have more authority the Government would reconsider its original decision. SESSION OF HOUSE DRAWING TO CLOSE The speaker went on to query the figures given by Premier Henry of the peak totals of the Niagara and Gatineau Systems. "It is absolutely plain," he said, "that there is a vast diftference in peak power in time. There is no co-- incidence. But in thes> reports the peaks were reached at a diversity of iime and had nothing to do with what the Premier said." for the Dr. McQuibban declared that in-- formation from the Hydro reports gave the lie to statements made to the Legislature by the Premier in connection with the Niagara and Gatineau Systems. "In order," he said, "to supply | power for the future, Ontario goes | into Quebec and contracts there for | power, with the result that, when : there is a surplus, that surplus is in turn sold back to the Province of Quebec." The Liberal Whip referred to his three visits of inspection to the Queenston Power Development and "I submit," said he, "that had Hydro taken the 112 members of this House into its confidence in making thes> contracts--let us into its secrets--i{ still would have the trust of the public at large, and thore would have been none of the sovere criticism it has had to face this last couple of years." Mr. Taylor alleged that in recont years the Hydro had purchased power "far in advance of its needs." He mentioned iits purchase of the F~shay Developmeont on the Saugeen River, near Southampton, as one in-- stance of this policy. Since the pur-- chass, the Hydro, he understood, had closed it down, had dispensed with the employees, and had scrapped equip-- ment representing an investment of thousands of dollars. That Mr. Nixon was trying to scuttle Hydro, was the assertion of Frank Wilson (Conservative, Windsor East). Exception to this was taken forthwith by the Progressive Leader, who rose to say: "I am not going to let my hcnorable friend get away with that, I deny it absclutely." Mr. Taylor, in speaking to his reso-- lution, submitted that the only proper place in which to ~liminate "the politi-- cal interferencs" that had beon "promineont" in Hydro matters in the past was the floor of the Legislature. '"We must avoid that interference in future and that's why I'm now ask-- ing support of this resolution," he said. Taking objection to Conservative siatements that he had, in speaking of the power situation, not taken into consideration the economic depression through which the country was pass-- ing, Dr. McQuibban declared it was quite apparent that the Hydro had not considered the depression when it had entered into largs contracts with Beauharnois, McLaren, Chats Falis, Abitibi, Madawaska, Dominion Power and others. to the criticism which the Prime Minister had subjected those visits to. '"Well," said the spsaker, "let me inform the honorable the Prime Min-- ister that I have rsad and studied this question very closely, and if I made only three visits to the Niagara System I am at least three jumps ahecad of the Premier on the in-- formation I have been able to fur-- nish to this House." Mar 2 5 Attorney--General Price referred Mr. N'xon to the Municipal Act passed, he said, in 1922, which gave an equally strong penalty. Mr. Nixon--You're going to put the man in jail? Mr. Henry--Oh, no. Mr. Nixon--Oh, yes. What happens to him if he can't pay the fine? That it might appear a somewhat drastic remedy was admitted by Col-- encl Price, who declared exceptional conditicons attached to this railway. Mr. Cooke stated that there had been no deficits until 1930. The bill then went through second reading. "This is the most amazing piece of legislation I have ever seen before the House," Mr. Nixon commented, when the bill came up for second reading. "What has the Legislature comse to If it has come to this? Would any responsible citizen himself be elected to any Municipal Council with such & law as that hanging over his head?" Mr. Sinclair felt strongly that members of the Council of corpora-- tions should be entitled to express their opinions and vote as they felt. Violent opposition was presented in the Legislature yesterday morning by W. E. N. Sinclair, Liberal Leader, and Hon. Harry C. Nixon, Progressive Leadcr, to the clause in the bill ofi Hon. J. R. Cooke to amend the act respecting the Sandwich, Windsor & Amherstburg Railway, by which a member of the Council of the corpo-- rations who knowingly does not votse for any by--law which must be passed to comply with any part of the act becomes liable to a $100 fine. GOUNCILLOR FINED IF KE FAILS TO VOTE Amazing Legislation" Is Attacked by Opposi-- tion Leaders

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