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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 22 Mar 1933, p. 1

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| 1 The Subcommittee on Dairying sit-- ting at Queen's Park yesterday recom-- mended that the Ontario Department of Agriculture institute an inquiry into milk prices "if the department was not satisfied with the investiga-- tion at Ottawa." The motion was sponsored by T. P. Lancaster (Con-- servative, Peterboro' County). At present the Provincial Minister of Agriculture is co--operating with the Ontario Milk Producers' Association on the question. affects this Assembly, it is necessary to have the person charged before this Assembly. He should be brought be-- fore the Bar to make any statement he cares to make before he goes to a committee." Mr. Murphy declared that the re-- marks of Mr. Waldron were vilifying and scurrilous, and that a mere apol« ogy would not be enough. There were penalties in the Legislative Act to cover the case, he said. W. E. N. Sinclair, Liberal House Leader, maintained that the proper procedure would be to have Mr. Wal-- dron called before the Bar. "I submit The committee will have full power to call for the production of any per-- sons, papers or documents, and can take the evidence. under oath. The Speaker will have power to issue any warrants necessary,. The committee consists of: Hon. Charles McCrea; J. F. Hill, Hastings East; A. B. Smith, Essex South; F. W. Wilson, Windsor pend judgment pending the commit-- | tee's remrt. "The alternative would | be to on the distinguished gen--| tleman before the Bar of the House. That might be followed; but I do not think it is the usual procedure, or one we would care to follow. It has been ; & long time since any one has been before the Bar of the House, if there ever was one." cision arrived at yesterday on the motion of Premier HMenry to this effect. EFast: and C. E. Richardson, Perth South, Conservative; S. C. Tweed, Liberal, Waterloo North, and D. J. Taylor, Progressive, Grey North. Mr. Waldron is quoted as saying: "If | you ask me to state my convictions, 1\ would say that he is being paid to ; proinote that bill, and in so doing breaks a iundamental law of the country, exposing himsel{f, I think, to ; criminal prosecution." Mr. Murphy withdrew his motion to have a special committee appointed, and Premier Henry moved one in its place, setting out the offense and the jurisdiction of the committee. Gordon Waldron, K.C., is to be call-- ed before a special commiittee of the Legislature in connection with his slatement that E. J. Murphy (Con-- servative, St. Patrick's) was paid to introduce the bill to repeal the Opto-- metry Act of 1931. This was the de-- The Premier stated that this was the procedure usually followed in such cases, and that the House would sus-- Te l oo t m 0001 ; Subcommittee Urges / ) L + O mW mt _ ; To t s t 0 To o 0n 0 0 s 6 0 s 0 0 .6 3 "S. 6 4 Ts 6 P s 6 9 es # 4 * 6 SPEAKER EMPOWERED BEFORE COMMITTEE, -- GIVEN TO PRINCIPLE -- UNDER PENSION ACT DEGISION REACHED _ OF MORTGAGE BILL 21 wmau T2 Pronen House to Suspend Judg-- ment Pending Report, Henry States WALDRON TO APPEAR ALL--PARTY SUPPORT --ABUSES ArE Ctfp Probe of Milk Prices ; matter complained of al House : e proper| Mr. Wal-? "I submit | lained of | necessary | IS SENT TO COMMITTEE! Two members, Hon. Jaines Lyons (Conservative, Sault Ste. Marie) and D. J. Taylor (Progressive, Grey North), thought that the bill might have gone further than it did and provide pro-- tection in the case of those who had a& large equity in their properties. Some provision should be made to protect this equity, they said. t e In speaking to the bill, Colonel Price said that there had been many sug-- gestions made, which could all be taken up in committee. Last year's act had applied to principal alone, but there had been many renewals. It had been suggested _ that the present bill should not affeet renewals. The act, he said, would apply only in case of those renewals for a period of less than three years, and where there had been an increase in interest. Asked by Hon. Harry Nixon if he was going to bring in amendments, Colonel Price said that he would suggest them in committee. bers, Wilfred Heighingtion (Toronto-- St. David) and E. C. Graves (St. Cath-- arines) raised objection to its pro-- visions, and no member of the Liberal or Progressive groups opposed it. It was given second reading and referred to con.mittee for the ironing--out of the details. All parties in the Legislature favor the principle of the Mortgagors' and Purchasers' Relief Act. brought down by Attorney--General W. H. Price. During the discussion of the bill yes-- terday, only two Conservative mem-- Another suggestion was that whnere a person had kept up his payments during the six months' period, as in-- structed by the Judge, he should have a right to another six months. "Nat-- urally, we couldn't have it drag on indefinitely. There would have to be some limit. Then there is the covenant. The Judge would have to bring all parties to the covenant be-- fore him," Colonel Price noted. Will Apply to Renewals Under Three Years Where : Interest Is Up "There will be some small amend-- ments to make it more clear, and there might be some recommendation as to where the applications can be made. There is also the question of an ap--| peal. I do not think there should be any appeal. The Judge's decision | should be final. It has also been sug-- ! gested that the mortgagee might have | the same privilege of making an ap--| plication as a mortgagor. That is | another thing to be taken up. And this bill does not affect taxes, and} has no effect on the municipalities. That should be made clear. It is purely for the relief of mortgagors and cowners of properties." _ | W. E. N. Sinclair, Liberal House Leader, stated: "It would appear to me to be an honest effort to deal with the problem and to deal fairly with people on both sides. On the one hand thcre is the principle of abiding by contracts made in good {faith." he said. adding that care should be taken not to frighten people from investing money. mA nal In his attack on the bill, Mr. Heigh-- ington did not think that the bill maintained an cven balance between the debtor and creditor and thought it was a "serious inroad on contractual rights." Mr. Graves wanted to know what would happen the widow who was living on the interest of a mort-- gage. Colonel Prico replied that sh> would be probably better off, as the Judge wou'd see that some pay-- ments were made if the mortgagor could mak> them, while if he cou'd not she wou'd get nothing any way. If she did foreclose she would not be able to sell the property. March 2 2 Biil Would Prevent Property Being Transferred to Heirs NEGLIGENCE IS SEEN Members of the Legislature are of the cpinion that there should be a general tightening up of the regula-- tions of the Old Age Pension Act so as to eliminate abuses which have crept into the workings of it They took advantage in the House yester-- day of citing several of these abuses when Hon. W. G. Martin's bill to amend the present act, so as to pro-- vide that lands owned by pensioners should be registered, and upon such registration they could not transfer them without consent of the Commis-- sicn, was being discussed. The bill was given second reading. The Minister of Public Welfare gave instances of pensioners who had transferred properties they owned to heirs so as to prevent the Commis-- sion from recovering from the estate the amcunt which had been spent in giving the pension. "As a result of the rigid inspectoral work of the Old Age Pensions Com-- mission during the past two years hundreds of pensions have been can-- celled or reduced. This represents & yearly saving of about $500,000," he said. "In addition to this many thousands of dollars have been recov-- ered in refunds from persons who se-- cured pensions by some fraudulent means or by misrepresentation of as-- sets." s "With all the inspectors there are, it is coming at a late date to say that $500,000 has besen recovered," said J. A. Sangster (Liberal, Glengarry). "That should nevor have been paid out. All this should have close scrutiny. This should not have gone on for two or three years. There must have been negligence somewhere." Hon. James Lyons (Conservative, Sault Ste. Maric), remarked: "Candid-- ly I do not think we are going far encugh. The Pension Board should be protectcd against transfers during the two or three years prior to pen-- sionable age. It is being abused and the act is being violawed in more ways than one." MHe stated that one man made an application in his city for a pension and it had been found that he had $7,000 in the bank. In another case a man had appealed to the city to provide him with wood. He had a $5,000 home; $3,000 paid--up insur-- ance:; his father--in--law who was living with him was getting $20 a month pension, and his mothor--in--law had a bank--book showing $2,000 credit. "And the old man's showed another $2,000." Hon. Harry C. Nixon, Progressive Leader, favored the pension system, but wanted to know if a proper check-- up was being made as to the ability of children to pay for the upkeep of the parents. W. Newman {Liberal, Vic-- toria North) stated that in his county a list of the recipients of pensions was published, and this stopped rumors as to who was and who was not getting the pension.

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