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are only part of the Hydro structure and because I say this body (the Loeg-- islature) is the representative of the Province of Ontario." "Momentous," said Mr. Macaulay. "But they're the people who are going to ultimately own Hydro," the former Minister said of the munici-- palities a few minutes later. The Minister--Commissioner's state-- ment encountered Tory queries before he was well started. "Why don't you consult the mu-- ;:'idpcnucs?" Leopold Macaulay broke "Because I say the municipalities "It is unthinkable that this or any other sensible Government should ever again permit a Commission which occupies so large a place in the interest of this Province to put Itself in variance with the Govern-- ment and lay all its shortcomings on the shoulders of the Government which appoints it." 'The Minister--Commissionetr's siate-- ment--the strongest and moct forth-- right brief issued ag. .:t .n 'inde-- pendent Hydro" in recent years--was delivered as part of a spseech in whicn he said Hydro should consult with the Legislature, but not with the O. But the Opposition was in '"seclu-- sion and gloon?" because they allowed the late Hydro Commission to run away with them, "because they didn't maintain reasonable control over the Commission .' The -- Minister--Commissioner -- said Mr. Lyon was a unique man. "But this Government will be here for practically another generation and Mr. Lyon may feel tha; he wants to lay down his burden, and when that time comes this Government should not appoint any one other than a member of the Legislature." M.E.A. It was not a slatement of Government policy, he said. Seclusion and Gloom. The "anti--independent Hydro®" re-- marks were made when the Minister moved second reading of the bills validating the new contracis with Quebec. ng able to secure as Chairman of the Commission probably the last man of the old guard in Ontario, who from the beginning of Hydro represented the best element in the movement, which eventually resulted in the great institution as we now know it. I refer to the Chairman, T. Stcwart Lyon." Its Commissioners, said the Min-- ister--Commissioner, should be "alto-- gether'" Ministers of the Crown or members of the Legislature. The con-- trol of Hydro should lie, not in the lx:Nm municipaliti¢s, but in the Legis-- ture. "The Liberal Party," he went on, "has been extremely fortunate in be-- At End of Stewart Lyon's Tenure Indepen-- dent Body Controlled by Municipalities Should Become Government Department, Minister Suggests ECAUSE Hydro should be under reasonable Govern-- B ment control, Hydro is to be regarded as in the same relation to the Ontario Government as a Government department, Hydro Commissioner and Hepburn Minister T. B. McQuesten said in a prepared statement in the Legislature yesterday. . Bills Validated. h on ns cncentarnasmnrmimsintinth: M.P.P.'sShouldForm Hydro Commission, McQuesten Urges f $200,000,000 Reason. "There are no contracts or obliga~-- tions for any Quebec power--no sup-- plementary contracts, no terms of any character which are not embodied in the agreements before the House. No agreement is being presently negoti-- ated, nor is one pending with cither the Ottawa Valley Company or the Beauharnois Company, or any other company, individual or interest in the Province of Quebec. With these agree-- ments the House is now completely informed on the whole subject of Que-- bec power, the past, present and future, The Minister -- Commissioner had opened his fire by reminding the House of the "scandalous" secret agreements in the Quebec contracts which were declared void last year. The Tory answer came from Gceorge Challies, who told Mr., McQuesten if he didn't like the personnel of the organization, why not reorganize it? The former Provincial Secretary charged that the power policy of the present regims was driving industries out of Ontario and that the new con-- tracts would, when totalled up, cost the Niagara district $17.92 per horse-- power, gree allied with the Tory organiza-- tion, "not representative at all," and using funds secured by "that unholy organization, the Municipal Under-- writers." "That's a question thnat requires some consideration," Mr. McQuesten answered. "This Province has guaran-- teed some $200,000,000 (for Hydro or in Hydro bonds). That reason alone is sufficient why I say this is the As-- sembly which should have control." The Minister--Commissioner -- had previously said the Ontario Municipal Electric Assxcwiation was to some de-- Jack Miner Bird Fund Asked in Legislature wn'u the intention of perpetu-- ating the work of Jack Miner, Canadian naturalist, in protecting bird life, L. P. Wigle, Liberal mem-- ber for Essex South. introduced a bill in the Ontario Logislature yes-- terday to constitute a corporation without share capital for the cre-- ation, maintenance and safeguard-- ing of an endowment fund. bill is called the Jack Miner ¥L this case it was industry that would perish from power faminc, he pre-- dicted. was "appeallingly near--sighted." "In-- dustries looking ahead," he said, "and desiring to make provision for their future power needs to the extent of forty or fifty years simply cannot do business with a power commission do-- ing business, as the present one is doing it, from hand to mouth." Opposition Leader Henry, bitterly attacking the bill, said that the pres-- ent power policy of the Government "Personally, I refuse to consider any organization to whom the Hydro Com-- mission should turn, unless it is truly representative by way of being consti-- tuted by persons who are themselves directly elected by the votes of the people. I would hesitate to attempt to constitute such a body efficiently, as, for example, by having the mu-- nicipalities elect representatives to the Hyaro Municipal Association. This would be clumsy and ineffective." The Commission had no vision, he said, quoting: '"Where there is no vision, the people perish"; only in so far as the present knowledge of the Hydro Commission goes." "It should most of all represent all the people of the Province of Ontario, both within and without the Hydro municipalities. For, in spite of their narrow technical position, the Prov-- ince of Ontario built this enterprisc. guaranteed all its bonds to the extent of hundreds of millions of dollars. The Province of Ontario collapses if this enterprise collapses, and the people of this Province lose their greatest Provincial asset, the enter-- prise of which they are most proud and, without overstatement, the most important civilizing and developing factor in the Provincial life. The Minister said the Commission welcomed a periodica consultation with a representative body--repre-- sentative of the users, manufacturers ard light users, and the municipali-- ties. The foundation funrds are _for fecding, sheltering and protecting wild Carada geese, wild swans, wild ducks and other migratory wild fowl during the period of their semi--annual flight. Migratory Bird Act and gives authority to members of the corpo-- ration to receive contributions to the endowment fund and apply funds in such manner as the donors may direct.