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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 20 Jan 1937, p. 3

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. Jartuesrs 2-0 'HOUSE VOTES Explanation Asked. "The iiugo,,Tgg,t'g,e,rgt as I un- Mr. Henry. at the outset, said he derstand h m, exp a ned to a car: did not wish to hold up legislation. lain extent the natureuof the Aiu: but he felt that tho members were [resumed Mr. Baird. He said it , entitled to know why the bill was iwas to place .the Hydro-Electric 0 I considered urgent and necessary. ':Power Commission on the same , - "Under Rule 37. if no notice is inlane as the. Crown. and I say the my?" it can ottlt "I mmmmml m, ll't'al object is to flout more than . .' . . y . . ' he judgment of the courts." unanimous ionsciii of the whole 'eyer t . Home." said Arthur. Pills tCons 3 Speaker Hipel then ruled that Ottawa South) "And on'l Jit . .'., ithe Government was within its . y i it is a t . , . , . . . matter of urgent and pressing ne- .rights m presenting the li,11 With. ------ ressity. Tho Attorno.v-Goneral ought out the required two days netA.er, Aet Would lu, Process of to know the rules of the House. He and (and: long/ir,?."' Opposition at- . . . . ' . tacke v gorous y. Courts Against Hydro should ','ei.1atttvktnho", rilileushoulirei "As a member of the Opposi- , I"' ignored. Il now l 'l,', to tion I want to protest most strong- roporiy ly,,' "iti, Je 'EIL", 'illld,','"1' Find I 1y against introduction of this bill ------.--- 'J,.',',,,';',','? Sill '/dl'l'.'iiiiCll, "c , , '"iyp,"ftgtitt,.rt'gstTt'tg Mr. Baird. I', t" . ' -, . . - " nt matedt at the Attorney- "HURRY" IS RA PPED ..' an) rtsady to roly on tle, Sim" General would explain the bill I cr. said Mv. Roebuck. My hon- would not press the rule of the ------ nimble friend adopts a bellicose at. House " said Mr Henry - "He has uh. I D f . d P h titudc. He says he won't waive his not done so." . . t m e ermine to us rights. if rights they are. My hon- Mr. Macaulay asked the Attorney- Legislation; Opposition ' oils-hit" friend can! keep dthfi, "03:: General to ycome clean" and tell, . stuntlinv. on On," ootpn. en. the House exactly what the bill, Ready fo Fight other if he wishos: it "f all ritrt.tt contained. Last year, tho Minister) with me. Ile asks Pt y there .15 of Municipal Affairs had broughti A division fth it Ir,'." Jurl",'/'fi'(,,. it. ,1/,tivn,.,t.l,"irt.d',i'; down Ias!i.1y Irywr.t legislation that in: do 'l'l'l'l',l e 'd1','i,od, Open-' mm l Ji,'),"'",,',?, to on ri hts )~nd had got him "in the SOUP", Now, 'aura,,',',,'.',',',' "mug f,'o1.'// tween' Commission " 58m" t vgthat are gsai.d he, the Attorney-General was introduction of r,et'"'f,"l"t"t'd, /1J.gi "QUILT: 'astho grog: ' It is not doing the very same thing. l long-heralded ower bills Qfv'tl re?! 1'tHo.W't P. I e ro rtriiriiiniii.' ."Would you like a copy of the, the required of... d w l/ l le', i l') "Putin" is hm: "it d It i: bill?" as?" Mr. .?-tT1tyk l tured the initial in?" intoh c1433-? "med? t a} ti mg last: t dis. "gummy" smiled Mr. Macaulay.) lature esterdax Sca col 'led Lig 5-3 1.1tT.llrly1e at: h",,',"",',',') a e be- "Silk," caiied the Attorney-Gen-; 't'llllJ'ids!i','eC.'lte.' .Ht rAe l/Ill lettitg tint-tum shou . femragn as nd "TY). to Pric Silk. Chief Law Clerk; the Chamber " he . th. "NC." fl l NW"~ yy,."??:', fl .d e0 row? g" ISlillng in the wings of the House, into a t ical n i iii _ , sun; ran, ',','.1y.'f.1'. of the y r.0 PmmPs1.o . "distribute copies of the bill." a Atlanta-'1' 'l,'u'l,l'tlisesi"f."l/ ht (lice; I I",',',':,',',",:,",,.,',?,:,!])?-'?,', Commission Protests "Hurry " I " . is J l; " 'P.------ -' ', buck's attempt to obtain first read-' "Why not?" demanded Mr. Ma- Mr. Macaulay said there was no ing for.' enact to amend the Power. cauluy, hurry for the bill's introduction. Commission Act. which seeks to bar. "The property of the Crown is "It you're right," said he, "thorough any process of the courts from be-" not open to that type of attack," dissemination of the information it ing executed against property of the; resumed the Attorney-General. "No contains won't hurt you." To hurry Ontario Hydro Commission. was one would think of issuing an exe- it along, before the members had a vigorously protested by the Opposi-, cution against a Provincial high- chance to read it, was to lay the tion. and when Speaker Norman,' war." i Government open to the accusation Hipel "th'ld the Government the "What would you do with it if; (that Hydro was hut "a plaything of House fi.ivitiep, tm an appeal against you could?" queried Mr. Macaulay. the Campaign Committee of the' taunting; [get rulling was upheld . -Tollgate Suggested. I ILiheral Party of Ontario." 5 ' g o o . _ . ' u ' . S .n p . . I Rule 37 of the House requires that "Put if, tailgate on "t and coliecti ,Mr.I 'lla'l2ddlivcot £6 aft.;('lst:31t:iccif 3:1; t,"'is,',/tttir, be Siren}?! ingen- 'r"/lC'll."" smilingly remarked MR2 ing to flout the courts with this) ouceai. uttre. i"" . .-. . . rs,' . iuc-, is a Proviso that in cases of jd,",,',",'..'.' , "Tho same rights and immunities: fig: gilttllite pilSdrlirilighugggass "i; {his gent necessity" this rule may be Vim?" exiendhto Shae? publicuservcil Province." There was no iine"rirtn"c's"/ waived with the consent of the "'93 such as '8 3_ f."' ff: nue. that required the bill's introduction,; whole House. it was this consent ,ihe A1,oJ'd.i,y1 "with ' dire " unless the Government, he said,' that the Opposition refused to give c'"','.',)','- )1fl"i"/eh I) a ff,'t',?t',' . V d "was deliberately trying" to take" unless the Attorney-General first . ls'nott e. yr"? e7,"'f,f, {or}? away the constituted rights of the, explained the bill. ' b; tilelm'uniCipa ities? querie r. highest courts of the land. In view;' "1318 $th other bills dealing with 5 I'itll,' iii-End is raising the ques- of .the fact that the proposed Iegir-:' y ro egislation will be given first . P' . l ii" l l " h " lation was retroactive in its apple, reading on Thursday, Acting Pre- ti'ons of /l'/"h in :k 'Etll flli I; cation, it was patent." he suggested,l mier H. C. Nixon acceding to the rent fr, 'h; (g tilt y H Sign lt "that it had been drafted for the desire of the oyporitityt that notice .t..)r..sl.t "if 'ist'.'. ario y t: om- "express purpose of dealing with liti-, of motion he first given. Second m'5§'°sl-' f" y, Inf amt? t say :gation that was now in the courts." {Sailing Jot: bill introduced yes-' 3:31? 1',riveu2m'et"1fl.it1't)lti,t,ie'r'ig'tiett "We don't accept your explanation tlg/lt,',',. sought at today s, using that word in its strict sense. ioiéxgl': bill, said Acting Premier The "big guns" of the Opposition, Put._as a matter ot strict leiral.rit.rht,i, "We all know," MR Macaula . re-l House Leader George S. Henry, Leo- "L. I' .vestedblin. bthde' Commission, I torted. "that the honorable the3Act-3 pold Macaulay and Arthur' Ellis, [is "lt . Is l in} It'. lo y. mg Premier would like to be a long directed a hot firyp_trt the Govern-, l Its . tissets have been collected (way from the House. too, when the ment benches. Thev insisted that ifrom he people and ther? is no, {ramifications of this legislation are the spirit of Rule ir; be observed reason tonigauw a disllilstlon 2t 'discussed." and demanded that the Attorney- 3.131" 2nd; '/,'i',ivh,tg',vco/d!ufit,toe,1g,t l What irreparable loss would be General make some statement as to bil .yn th 0 gsition seeks to b. I done the PPOP'mcei asked the former why the proposed legislation was "133} u 0th p301 their re 0-. Highways Minister, itthe billshould considered urgent. was,» s, a S Bpons1- 393119.?" forla COUhPIC' of days, Attempts of w. A. Baird (Cons., I " _ . . tttl . e memoers ad time to High Park) to describe the nature 90 I !..Tflttl the charge that the _.study it? "Let's see if there is any " . . l pposition are attempting to block iusti t . A, . s of the bill as anothci effort to flout, legislation " said Wilfrid Heighin:v. l? " ce. o tt and I doubt if more; tho judgment of the courts." brought 3 ton i?iGii.', St Davids) "The Gm:- ts, said he. "or whether it's mereii'l an indignant protest from Acting ernment li'hiliid' iTiiiii'the" O osi- a hogsheadfui of words and a thim-- Premier Nixon, who appealed to the tion for drawing attention tsp er- bieful of nonsense." I Speaker on the ground the? no rors which always crop up when Division Forced. I member could debate the rinci lc -. . . , c. . P p legislation is rushed through in a Whtthe Speaker started to putl "ut/il?,!,,.",',,,"','):,",,':,),.,.,.," demand "u."y'" . i the motion to the House the Oppo-i '" . . . - Ns not the real object of this; sition raised loud protest and forcedi ed Mr. Macaulay. there is .n.()' legislation to tlout the courts more,' a division on the ruling that the, ('lt't','.'gf,"e'fr,n"e,les'.','y/,1rtir,ea','/,1'st_ 'ad,"'" m the past?" asked Mr. ""ei"t'll.t'ti', 1352292: th t A t i .._ . t a . e vo e, c - is deliberately attempting to ",ty "Order, order," called Mr. Nixon. ing Premier Nixon said there were away the constituted rights of the I "My answer is that it is not three. pieces of Hydro legislation, '111qtt, courts of the land. . itrue." retorted Attorney-General and it rested with the Opposition 1eiif'la'iLt1"'"lJl,eee/"?l'e.d1tcuf. iReilleyst . "'.. . _ as to Whither tryy.r 1y.ould be trisen . .. . . . , r. Speakei. I use to a pom. of first reading at this time, or notice George Henry. it. is l'ar-rcacliiiigin order." said Mr. Nixon._ "An at- of motion. When the Opposition F character and deals not only with tempt to debate the principle ot Leader inquired and was told that matters now before the courts. but legislation which is not. before the) lit was the Government's intention with events yet to come. The people (h'i'i's),i, is entirely out of order." g 'to proceed with second reading of of the Province should have this "This legislation is meant to ren- the first bill the following day, Mr. measure before them before it is der ineffective any Judgment of the Henry said it would be better to passed. Therefore. loath as I am courts----" began Mr. Baird once give notice of motion of the other to take this course. I must appeal Imore. but the Acting Premier again two. against your ruling. Mr. Speaker." I rose in protest. "We had better extend our read-', ing of the first bill and let the!' . others stand," he remarked. i

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