The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 25 Mar 1937, p. 7

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Conservative intentions of blockad-- ing passage of money votes in the Ontario Legislature last night were abandoned after an hour or more of furious argument and after the House had voted 59 to 14 to defeat i,a motion from Hon. George S. HMenry to appoint a Committee of the !llousv to investigate liquor adminis-- tration. LIQUOR SALE INQUIRY MOVE S DEFEATED The Opposition Leader repeated his charge that there had been in-- terference in Liquor Board adminis-- tration and declared it was "in-- Premier Hepburn disputed the figures presented by Mr. Henry. The total sales of liquor last year amounted to $49,000,000, he declared. Of this, $18,000,000 was in beer, $29.-- 000,000 in liquor and $1,000,000 in 100,000 in liquor and $1,000,000 in wine, he said. Liquor profits, argued Mr. Henry, had increased from $6,000,000 to $10,-- 000,000 in one year. "My friend has been rather tricky about it. Nothing has been said about this. Mum is the word." The motion read, in part: "Re-- solved: That this Legislature de-- plores that over $85,000,000 was spent for intoxicating liquors, with a resultant profit of $10,000,000, as disclosed in the Budget, during the past year; and this Legislature fur-- ther deplores that the acknowledg-- ed policy of the Government has been and is to engage in the liquor business for profits." Figures Are Disputed. Almost immediately after the up-- roar created over the school legis-- lation -- had subsided, Opposition Leader Henry was on his feet with a motion demanding the appoint-- ment of a committee of the House "to inquire into the circumstances surrounding the issuing of all au-- thorities and powers to sell liquors, and to formulate more stringent regulations in order really to con-- trol the sale of liquor and espe-- clally to protect the youth of the Province against the ghastly and devastating effects of the present liquor policy." Fees Lack of Control. The sale of liquor was out of con-- trol in the Province, and the Government was in the liquor busi-- ness for profit, he charged. After defeat of Mr. Hoenry's mo-- tion the House went into Commit-- tee of Supp'ly to consider money estimates, but the Opposition kept up a running fire of attack. YNOTL 15 59 TO 14 Premier Hepburn Disputes Figures Presented by Opposition Leader Conservatives Abandon Blockading Tactics After Brief, Furious Argument '"Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister," said Mr. Ellis, who told the House that earlier in the day, in the Public Accoants Committes, he had ex-- pressed his willingness to lay his Claims of Arthur Ellis (Cons., South Otteawa), that he has evidence of "shocking conditions" in the ad-- ministration of the Liquor Control Act were met by Premier Hepburn with the assurance that if Mr. Ellis will place his evidence in writing, over his signature, a commissioner will be appointed forthwith to make the fullest possible inquiry into the situation complained of. "I hope for the day when there will be a lot less hypocrisy and bigotry in grand old Ontario than there is here tonight. 1 have lived in France and Germany, and they don't have these restrictions, which, I think, induce people to drink more," Ansawers LJlis. George Challies (Cons., Grenville. Dundas) clashed with the Prime Minister and Mr. Clark on the question of which party was re.-- sponsible for the sale of beer by the glass in Ontario. The Conservative declared no Administration _ of which he had been a Minister had ever authorized the sale. Mr. Hepburn 'produced _ doecu-- ments to show that the Henry Government had sent out 15,000 applications to restaurant operators regarding the sale of beer with meals. Mr, Challies argued that, prior to the proclamation of legisla-- tion by the Hepburn Government, beer and wine was not sold in hotels. During the debate Mr. Clark sent a messenger out of the House to get a copy of a two--page advertise-- ment the Conservative Party had run in the Windsor Daily Star dur-- Ing the election. The pages carried the names of three Cabinet Minis» ters of the Henry Government and urged the voters to elect the Con-- serveative Administration and enjoy beer in restaurants. Such advertise-- ments cost $1,500, said the Liberal member. _ cumbent upon the Prime Minister" to appoint the committee, Windsor) charged the Conserva-- tives had failed to get "a bigoted election" on the sechool question and were now trying to make liquor the election issue. Challies, Hepburn Clash. The Government had nothing to fear from a small committee in-- vestigating liquor. It could sit after the House had adjourned and the investigations of the committee could set at rest suspicions there was something wrong, or it could point the way to clearing up the situation by recommending regula-- tions. Down through the ages, declar-- ed Mr. Henry, it had been the right of citizens to withhold voting of supplies to his Majes-- ey and his Majesty's --Govern-- ment when there was a "growing feelingy there is something wrong." | March 25 H. Clark (Lib, Sandwich-- |__"I said the Prime Minister is not running this House -- you are," 'Colonel Kidd replied. "Sit down, then," said the Speaker. ! _ _Mr. Hepburn then took the floor, !to be interrupted immediately by ICoIonel Kidd. | _ "Sit down," ordered Mr. Hepburn Colonel Kidd remained standing. ' "I'd like to go over and knock you |down," added the Premier, half-- | smiling. "I'll have no more of this sort of thing tonight," declared Speaker Hipel. "You have had one member put out of the House tonight," clicked Colonel Kidd. "And you may be the next one," gibed a Liboral back--bencher. Urime Minister is not running this House,." '"What did the member for King-- ston say?" demanded Speaker Hipel. Later during an argument as to which administration, the present one, or the Henry Government, was responsible for the present beer gale in hotels, Mr. Henburn rose on a question of privilege. Mr. Challies, who was spesking at the time, insisted he had the floor, and asked the Prime Minister to sit down During the argument, Colonel T. A. Kidd (Cons., King-- ston}, interrupted, shouting: '"The Prime Minister is not running this you ?" Question of Privilege. information before Attorney--General Roebuck, but had got nowhere with his proposition. t

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