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C March 10 thus on hand for the peak "Some attempt h ¢ -- this year 237,000 in excess :;l justify the ,.,,2,,.,:' o'f' pfiw?"fy.fi'l The Attorney--General gave me and the maximum demand of lutl we do not need and cannot use on I did eat' If I told the Prime Min-- year. Included in last year's peak: the ground that a portion of the ister that there is no possibility was 105,630 horsepower of inter. ©Xxcess may be sold across the inter-- of our losing at the Privy Council| ruptible primary power, which forl national boundary in the United and he believed me to the point of. various reasons was not cut off at| | States, &t what has been described| |RCUBE On my advice, why did he| the moment of maximum demand.| | 48 a profit. It is to be bought at| |CODSCNt to the legislation of 1937, Now the very purpose of the cheap--! | $12.50 per horsepower and sold at the very purpose of which was to | er rate which we quote on inter-- | $14.50 per horsepower, a spread of protect the Hydro against scizure' ruptible power is that it may be $2 per horsepower. If you 'carr the in the event of an adverse decision.] interrupted in event of shortage, so power from Beauharnois to é'ha,g I gave him no such advice. I told that actually we had as against this _ Falls and from there over the new |Nim that in my judgment we ought | winter's peak a reserve of 342600 _ central lines to Cornwaill, your line |!° W f0" I am of opinion that by ':l:qr:?powort in 'ex'c:ss of the actual : smm < our cc:nstitution the Provinces in rements of the previous year. t property and civil rights an | "Now, Dr. Hogg has told us that' "::.s:":"en':'m,r:e between 1t° and 15 |administration of jusfice aredrr:z};stii [the peak of this year in Ningara\! | $L95, whion l:as'l:: ;:31_'_2 cftlx?s')o ei: ters in their own house. The as-- System was 1,135,000 horsepower. hors;power for all otner carr xi)n surance (hat the Province had no | Last year the peak was 1,013,000, a 'charxcs. You may gather how g);'ea% ppossibUily of losing of no hape growth of 122,000 horsepower, AP-- _ these are when I tell you that you anferet Al. ind i fo lt AMUh proximately the amount which dur» | are charging the City of Brockville _| careful solicitor and _ sound. nc ing the year we purchased from |$30 per horsepower. On the basis careful solicitor and sounds no Ottawa Valley. of your charge M.against Brock. | mCs like the member for Oshawa "There was thus clearly no n##d | yijle, you are selling your power at than it does like the member for for any immediate increase in OU |$1550 below cost. We charge the Bellwoods. | lpower supply. Howard Smith Paper Company at As a matter of fact the issue| \_ _ "It is indeed Interesting to no'@ | Cornwall $18 per horsepower for does not turn on the adequacy of| ithat on the 3ist of October, 1937, | firm power. What do 0':' think of Dr. Hogg as a prophet. No one can | we were actually using 276,000 |Charginga Canadiahn a! 0' |foretell the future. Where I taize horsepower of Quebec--purchased | on ine Canadian sidep [p:;'r cptmpany issue is the voluntary abandonmeat | power out of the 731,000 provided | ;jona) line right at OC * * ';l'-'"'i'g iOf the Government's former policy| by the original contracts. | ElGVOR | per porse ower and Chargi $18 |of purchasing only such power as years after the original Gatineau | RF _ [OMCLONEL the" Uniteg | the system requires. It has bought| deal we were using slightly MOre | gyprae side of 'hrn"on Ph nited | power which it does not know that than one--third of the contract | piace §14 509 Nrg Do uerS=ug |it needs, or, rather, that it knows | amount. that con&uctige to thepoinfi:xstriasl that it does not need. It has sur-- Finds Policy Reversed. development of Canada? rendered to the rapacity of the "Notwithstanding the ample sup-- "A persistent effort has been made Quebec companies, and it has ad-- ply of power to satisfy the demands _ by the pro--power company press to ';"'Uedl." made them gifts of money 6t the immediate future, the utter, | justify these new power purchases |ouso (n., millions on the flimsy ex-- failure of engineer's estimates in | by this year's ice jam in the Niag-- cuse that it lacks the courage to | |the past with disastrous results, and | ara River. Had Dr. Hogg demon-- maintain that it is master in its| | the Prime Minister's gloomy outlo0k | strated his foresight by placing own house. | to a pending depression comparable | shutters on the windows of the Much more, however, do I take | to that thmugh which we have just ! generating p]ant below the Ca--' Iissue with the Government's aban.' passed, the Government has re | taract, he might now perhaps be donment of the principle of public versed the policy of the former |more highly regarded as a prophet ownership in the generation _f Hydro Commission and of this "The loose ice which flowedpint(; power in favor of the principle of House with regard to public owner-- 'the building has reduced the ca-- | private supply. We settled with ship and has entered into contracts | prcity of the Commission--owned the Ottawa Valley Company on a ._ _ with the power companies not dif-- | plants temporarily by 175.000 horse-- long--term basis for the simple fering materially in amount froMm / power. The reduction in 'effective| !****"*" that the public and private those of 1929. production may not be as great, [plants are in fact one and can beelr: isu:?;.:suer:icedfo:.ha't'o:il:;x;ev h?: however, as this figure appears, for never be dissociated, but our con-- 1997 Pb] ic 6f 150,000 horsepower the Toronto plant above the falls tracts with Gatineau and Maclaren | n aduition to what we alresdy pos .h:f, :':flb&d"ngt mutl'h of the time were different. They were for ten-- |\ sessed and for delivery in 1938 a ':n in-:tanee:nsc::agi:;t' :}'m%'o'a&'; | year terms, and we were actually further block of 80,000 horsepower. | horsepower and a normal operati engaged in the meantime in sup« This is 230,000 horsepower for de-- capacity now rated at 500&08 :,?_ plying our needs by the develop« livery before the end of the current | gueed on the peak of 1936 only 208 ment of our own resources." year, which, at the rate of $1250 |247 norsepower. How much oT the per horsepower, is the tidy sum Of |joss could have been made good h" $2275,000. In other words, the GOY* |;jpo remaining plants. I g£00 hly ernment has more than doubled the |}o say and as "':', wi.n'for':m ul?ah g cost of purchased Quebec pOWer AS | pyraaqy M"-o d. the dn"-vp;: Rd io it of this" | had fallen. considerahly below th "The cost of this purchased POWOT | pyjvear high to which I; O"H e m 1997 was $3,500000 'The add® [furgrs' The 33000 horsenower in-- | tional purchase of $2,875,000 means mediix.te gta"d'b'; wI k.hr,'gmc'-";{ d is | that we will be paying before the | sy90g ready to aeli\.}e at i mo; ne?'u !cnd of the current year at the TAE |porje, and)on i da 10--d a'mom;n * | of $6,467,000 per year. The added | Wouiq Tikely have made good the cost is at the rate of $7,000 per day, | pefjcjency :'nd [' n ta th g';?' the and in my judgment is a pure Sift | op ns Gatineau's rege;'ve 3: ;28?\3:)' to the power companies. horsebov,ver would certainly have Claims Excess Admitted. done so, nor should it be overlooked "Nor can there be any denial of |that we carried 105,630 horsepower what I say that the Government has | of interruptable power on the 1936 purchased great quantities of power | peak, the very purpose of which is more than the Hydro can use. The |to constitute an additional reserve. application to Ottawa for permis-- The former Commission, I am con-- silon to export 110,000 horsepower vinced, would have met the emerg-- to the United States is an admission |¢ncy without the least embarrass-- of that fact. The Govermtnent has | ment. constituted the Province of Ontario sales agent for the power producers D"'.;!:' Such Adv.'"." of Quebec, and it pleads a financial M e 'Prime Minister told us on disaster to Hydro which it has |" onday that th_e real reason for the voluntarily accepted as a reason for reversal of policy was the change changing the national power policy of Attorneys--General. He was in of Canada. Aside from the saving || favor of public ownership and ready to Hydro, the export of Canadian to battle the power interests before * power to the United States is not '"'9 election, because I had assured in furtherance of this country's in~ him that there was no possibility dustrial development. It is quite |Of our losing at the Privy Council, obvious that once the privilege of 'while he hurried to swallow the marketing power abroad is con-- private ownership bait and to buy sceded it will never again be sold PD°ace at any cost after the election here for less than it will command . because he was assured by the pres-- there, and the advantage which in-- ent Attorney--General that there was dustry is now supposed to enjoy . NO chance whatever of the Privy in cheap and abundant power will Council reversing the Ontario Court have been sacrificed for the enrich-- | Of Appeal. I wonder if there is any ment of a few wealthy promoters ||one in Ontario simple enough to and owners. Whether the financial |swallow that explanation. It is a condition of Ontario's Hydro, as a |modern version of an age--old story: result of these new purchase agree-- ments, is sufficiently desperate to warrant the sacrifice of national 'interests is for the Ottawa Govern-- 5 ment to decide, in the face of political pressure from Ontario and a private lobby from Quebec. TT n e e en e pese se 66 mm