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¥ * ¢ March 17 T ns | "I resent that statement applying "I suppose you'll say that can't to any one from the Head of the |be believed either, because Mr. Lakes," the Fort William member |Ross is a Liberal," he challenged. + said, "and particularly to having it . "Certainly we can believe him," applied to the member from Fort| | yyr., Spence retorted. "But he William." doesn't know the situation." = With reference to a telegram read "Apparently the only man who , in the House yestel'day by Mr. Hee-- knows anything about the timber nan, Mr. Spence again quoted fig-- industry in the north country is the ures in defense of his estimate cOn--| member from Fort William," Mr cerning the amount of wood on the| feenan remarked. "I thoug'ht the |__| Lake Sulphite limits. Imember from Port Arthur would Question of Cordage. know as much." Ahiva t e e uy ues "Mr. Wilson, who is a former l "He's never here anyway," inter--. & President of the Fort William Lib--| jected Hon. Leopold Macaulay, Woni Sfand 'for H' Any eral Association, said that my esti--| Leader of the Opposition. c' o mate of 40,000,000 cords was abso-- * Longer, Minister Tells lutely absurd," he declared, "but # when you look into the figures it Leg""*ure does nit sound absurd at all." uie en e er ie uy The Lake Sulphite Pulp Company limits, he said, comprised 2,000 R E P L l E S TO S P E NC E! ]square miles of "truly magnificent tliGere ie ronmse, l virgin timber." That represented | s | some 1,280,000 acres, he declared,. Timber companies, operating on | and there was an average of fifteen | limits allocated under the Conser-| cords of spruce and balsam per » in» & > #4 Wl a('rP. \a"Aw regime, have "ganged up" | "In reality the company secured against the Department of Lands the virtual plum of all the timber and Forests and "high--graded" | resources of the district," he affirm-- timber for export to United States, ed, "and I believ 40,000,000 cords is Hon. Peter Heenan, Minister of indeed a fair and conservative esti-- Lands and Forests, charged yes-- | mate." terday in the Legislature. "I like that word 'conservative,"" "They go in and high--grade the | he added as an afterthought. spruce and the balsam," the Minis-- ; '"There are a lot of people up ter declared, "cut along the mar-- ' there that don't," retorted Hon. gins of streams and wouldn't pay Harry Nixon, Provincial Secretary. ' any attention to the foresters and "Not in Fort William," exclaimed rangers. They have ganged up nndl Mr. Spence, while Conservative high--graded and for three years I members thumped their tabies in have had to stand by. I don't in--| applause. & tend to stand for it any longer." Mr. Spence reiterated his demand The Minister made the charge in his reply to Frank Spence (Cons., | for an investigation into the affairs Fort William}), who, early in the sit--| of the Lake Sulphite Pulp Company # ting, gave a statement bearing nn! through the Ontario Securities Com-- * the cordage in the limits acquired ; mission. by the Lake Sulphite Company. "I understand there is an investiga-- * Sta.ements Queried. :"l:": "'(""dé;r:'a;';q?y '.hf' Qu?:'f':, Se& s rities mission," he said, "an The exchange opened one way I ask that similar action be taken Tuesday, when Mr. Heenan claimed here as well. There is no Derson hat statements Mr. Spence had E ¢ ols l + p 'va * ° a ies 4 he T at the Lakehead or in the Province | made in an lar of Marcr '14" se of Ontario who is more interested | f ronto Daily Star of March 14 were in the success of this project than | : onl becausecof Mimess: "But yemter:| T am but 1 betieve an Investigation day 'he etended his statements| . 11 necersaty o Clar uP the titiw and repeated his demand, .made one." during formal debate, for an inves-- "I hope my honorable friend will tigation into the affairs of the Lake always look as well as he does at Sulphite Company. the present time," said Mr. Heenan, Mr. Heenan declared that timber : as he rose to reply to the Fort Wil-- operators who benefited under liam member. "We want to have Conservative .greements had had 'one Tory in the north to shoot at . a meeting recently and had agreed !once in a while." to "get Spence to advocate our _ | HIe said he had made no objec-- | cause." He emphasized he had not tions to any statements made in' objected to Mr. Spence's speec_h in | the House by Mr. Spence, but that | ' the L('gislaturfl. "But that didn't !sta'ements made by him outside'! warrant him going out into some | which he had not made in the | corner and giving a typewritten House, were objectionable. | | statement that was designed to fool _ "They were the most ridiculous members of the House and the pub-- statem:ents," he said. "Mr. Spence | lic as well," he declared. takes that whole 2,000 square miles | * The Minister said in conclusion 'of land and, without allowing for | that, irrespective of Mr. Spence's 'swamps, water, burned out areas views of the cordage in the limits, or anything else, estimates the tim--| he for one was going to take the ber stand. Why, 50 per cent of that advice of his foresters. 'property is water. And not only Accepts Challenge. | | t('hat. but the ;stimat:stof htis own m ie Hibiee Retrecout $DETE] || fhan three and a nalt of four cores n 9e C un uns C o a« | | of sound pulpwood can be found to |ill health," Mr. Spence began, "the ; the acre. I'm sorry that he has honorable member from Kenora| a 8 ch & 1 hiny stock of him-- took exception to an interview| made such a laughing J E + self by his estimates. I'm sorry, which appeared in the Toronto Star { h t 40,000,000 d concerning the Lake Sulphite Pulp o0, there are not 40,000, CorU® . -- Company. He asks me why I did of pulpwood, but even if there were, not tell the House there were two | :':t:"'vi:a::,,,','e didn't discover it for mills i:\\tol\ec'!'.tlnaf':a';'t.lh;:c:ll;rx::; "I've always maintained it," Mr. % frry _ SLaLemMeNn(« » Spence interrupted. "I said so even passed up a challenge. 4 at that time." qpre!;hsnlzz?lgel; eta;'t: ;;(c:t::: t'.:n ;?::.c: "Well then, apparently my honor-- g 8 in which he had explained that the | . | SDIC, MM"A 2 Aatice Hecertment ah Nipigon Corporation mill had been DCX P » by the Lake Sulphite | the contractors and every one else purchased by i4 P | put together," Mr. Heenan rejoined. ;"&g' Company at a Cost "of between I The Minister read a telegram 000 and $700,000." "I al tated that this purchase from Mayor C. M. Ross of Fort rywigao P w William _ expressing _ regret at was not set out in the company's a tus," he said, "and you will efforts which are being made to | p:::ll:e(i asked for an lnvegtigation complicate and confuse the prob-- ';t the whole transaction " lem confronting your Govemment."' Mr. Spence took exception to Mr. Heenan's quoted remarks that the controversy over the Lake Sulphite Company situation was "a lot of propaganda by a lot of political soreheads." '