The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 24 Mar 1938, p. 4

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. . March Lof- "Didn't that report suggest a "Oh n " (hang. of 90 , o, Mid tho P Inlay. Policy. ' asked Mr. Mae- Q),1rd, Turin", then "?J1T,,,, an Suggests Improprlety. " . ' I ra o Dee. " "l vii'l,Ti,ro,rgo,,t t agree with the fund Mail. 13, from The Globe thexugtcligiiegot'h "3'3 to inter " _ I o me." , "Who "trot. " . u . . n . e rem er. to se,,p.e'n't Dr. Hogg who talked ithe Premier. the ttrtielr? ttshed "rit1hri.nst','sT,11gfilit',i' Macaulay, 3 "No." 'knriu Maraulay treid ho did not. your party, Wag 'lell,1iftrt,t"etrc5,, "r cannot u. 1 '. same. time f 7 ' why Dr. , " . or one of the I . 2'te mm" haw boon muggy: lh'lghznnhgirv "can, 'gg, Whether I ampules. And I think magma an one of the other engi' is . . ere ttrp in"? proper." I neers" - .Rponsihle men on news , _ "Do . . ' . . . diapers} sal . You think he should [The dlsciisslon had Merelv to do I "ia/ttyi,') d give up his private mirage? with the Chats Falls aiti tii, ' aeaulay thon proceeded t asked Mr. Hepburn. " -. "NW" ' in on. The 'read from the edit . . . ft ch i Make Q ru",d-o Power Situation wasn't dt.e- headed "No 'Ce"dtofe.lgt,ig,h, "'88 1812?? 'gf,',?, want to." . . ' or 909 ti " PER 'sr" were a . . a ' . lip re . .. . p ion. n Inquiry, said o',"Pcprv2',',.n/"iet, friend didn't rllCt'Jr1L't'1yts,.t,avrj.,t), to he ex. x1: gawk-V all the unrest over get?" p rt he was going to Qllth' contracts I'2rl"t/1f,ttuuht settled} Th $112233" gou'ii not be .. . . fa h. t . - U - - , . ou never '"I "as "in", My information policies" si)',: Hophurn on Hydro OPPl'aYPHfree from political influ- r m the "we" Commissioners." ithe l'is,pl,lli'hl,d,, go ttln0tlltrp,,tt,,e,,ii, in. Price. PC,',', must be an invests . an . '. a ion , , . C th" Pres. Mortra. has risen to the tr/l,.,"),','),,;'.?,','),:'),') :fter tire Elysian?" on he")? and P:. "Matthi- raid that the Pre- _ The Globe and M . . p y. tti ie ' e said, ".'h" "m," t . , 1 ail, said Mr r l to he cleared of uncert " . , res eci t ... w ic . " th It'"'"".",' "iih p o Macaulav " hi h has taken in; and distrust. ainty , Beayytrnois nostotiation.q eer- h.onorahlo friend into camp Je "I am willing now to a l taintv did not tally with press sincere in its attitude to the' re If pp, nt i1,1rd'l,. On May 3. he said, the s".P. pr the contracts. They dob}; any kind of a committee to make Pro gram Pf announced that. the criticire limiter signing them. This any kind of an investigation. We th liner "as going. to reorganize tdito.rial criticizes the Government have nothing to hide," declared the ' .vdro Commission and would for "g deception in the way the Premier. an"... mm. "mm." with Beaii- deal was put over." i "All right," said Mr. Macaulay. arnms. On June 23. the Star had Ho continued to read: "We be. "Let's have a committee," adding forecast the rotirrmont of Chair- - that Dr. Hogg should be called. than. [tT.?, of Hydro, and had added illcve his criticism is justified whon "You can even have Johnny Aird .ristniti.r'ttntlr that. while a Beau- he accuses Mr. Hepburn and his' here, too," interjected Premier harnois contract would he "mm. Government. of deception on iii) Taphufm"He's a pretty good nego- It": the ttnnoltnttmrrtt about " WWW": public issue during theI tiator." . "on" not come until after the election campaign. There is tii, Mr. Macaulay then suggested that "if.""nn' Theo. stories had horn .dt'nl'miz we fart that the power the bill should stand until after lv'""."? hy r"sponsihlo journalists. shortage m Ontario, along with the there had been an investigation. hr ytid. ttnd with 'tttttlr ttuthoritative CMIO Issue. were responsible t "Oh no," broke in the Premier. , basis. undouhtodl.v. an early election." or, "We have Rot to have these agree- $t 'hat basis'." drmanded the Pre- . merits validated." He explained that ' mier. i 'tft'" to t nmalk Made. ' the JPaulernoit. bondholders were in reply. Mr Macaulay said the l I suggest. continued Mr. Mae..' awaiting the validation action, and reporters had probably talked to {inlay in addressing the Premier that Dr. Hogg was critically ill and members '." the House. and possibly no one know better what Wtt.q 30-, could not attend for some time. He mm, ththinot Minister might have in: on behind the .RCeneg in the pomtedout that he was quite ready dropped a hint now and then: and ;S?P.r' than your great, ally, Mr. Me. to appoint a committee. prominent Liberals. close to the fyl?.ttht.!iorp,r prrsurmi, approved t Mr. Macaulay said there was no liovernmenl. might have broken ot this editorial and who gave thail :iidvantgge till: having " investiga- 'contidence. And then, ho said YEN" radio sprerh on the eve ntl, ' ion a er f contracts were vali- V Bnaubarnoi! power bonds were go- "hf PIP'Ction, Unmasking the Fall-i 'détpd' Premier Hepburn said he [ [ in: up. (ttitll: l .vxas ready to name a commitee to-, l _ 1"Tkhere l', iinh old slogan of the 1"";aztalla1nze Mr. MrCullasth to: 1:190:33 2.t that the bill could noti 30" mar ct." esaid. "The ticker V "m now to tho disad-i . tells th _ '. Vantage of the Li Iq'. '.' _ . say, ll er: in"; "229:3 123"?)th I.'.',,',','.',',',?. the sto'huriihned"/,,,',"1i/ht1nasil Conant Counters Objection. Stocks were going down. They kept tresrupd. vou from many . tight: 1aAi,t2/in','itf,ene:y, Gordon Conant; moving up, point by point, in spite for?" in the past." . 1l'lia"rfd.htg, was very little m5 ,tof insistent denials from the Pre- am quite Papahlp of ttotiing out Y:. r. iacauiay said that had imitr that no negotiations ' v0 myself," retorted Mr. HPphUrn anything to do with the merits ot, 1 under trat' or my contracting; lre , "You needed him in tho past, Ind the bill. His objection to the clause, i the a,ur . n .vou may need him in the future " toutlinmg price commitments higherI I . 'lhe Opposition Leader warned. ' :than the figures named in the con-i Deetie. Prior Negotiation; i Mr. Macaulay thon read . tracts, if Ontario ever bought tuidio, ' ' th t . . . again lional ' . i 'i never at any time or in any iv; section of thr "dit.oria! whieh fi tire power m Quebec and at .i ' way carried on any negotiations ."F n . 'There " no drn.virur the g in excess .of the 812.50, was. with any power companies dirertly 3m that the pod-er shortage in not. valid. he claimed. The experi- or indirevllv until after the 'slete- 's Mario. along wi.t.h. tho C.1.O. is. 93109131? the past few years. he held; ttons," Premier Hepburn "punt ue. new: responsible for an early wou .not. be an inducement for, lie again referred to Dr. liogg's .elf.mlnn' . Ontario to attempt, to buy any; statement and declared that necotto I \Vouldnt you think." snapped more power from Quebec. l ations had not been entertained :2, Eremier. waving his arm ovpr st 2,,,il setting up a man of _ uilh the Homtharnoir, compaiiv un- I ' iberal benches, "that my eol. Tl',." e claimed. , l til tte D ll . . Pfgupg know more about. the eiec- it is a straw man, why don't a r r. ogg "as made Chain. tun" causes th vou take it out?" su ted M ' man of the Commission. 1 Waft a ".,'li2d,n/l,',' am" l""' tlsel' It Macaulav . gges e r. lie declared also that he resent- i hui; ttet bag: '//,"iqttt; Mr. Cbhant claimed that all the _ i"1.,,t,S,i','g'd.n and unwarranted 'iorial," smiled Mr. 'lu"2aeufat'bt4fiii clause did, in effect, was to limit to ... . . . '.. a certa' . - '.Talrt about mean suspicions." /d',i1t"er, accuses sou .9! dishonorr, power I,", 'tt1'"dt,,,'d,tftoi',r11gei', of said Mr. Macaulay. "We are the i 1'id'f1il,ie/,,,/a,,"eer, l pared in a general wa aauescfrn- ones to hurl that at you on the Mr 'lttg,tg,'."t prove a thing." saidi t"i%J'/i'nthti", with 'ldi1e,'rUn'l ground that you .hnnrjwinked the 3' 1'rt' does t. i " i tained in the contracts signed by . public in the elections. He eharg. i" , o my m nd, said Mr.l the Conservative Administrations. ed again that the Government had '6 'yit,P'i; ' . l, These. he held at least did not changed its polir.v in September_ I ou have " su-'P'NW' mind,'" jeopardize the 'whole future of the and obtained a mandate in Or.. ("e/,rditt1t Premier. ! Hydro enterprise. at"; to go back to Niagara for, time". s|aidatlh:-(l)lp;::i1t'io:ui.e:?ime: "I have studied the old contracts , . . 'r.'.,' . ' . ' ' . "-5 as a lawyer. and, I mav sav withi Who got us into this mess"? deg 'ie",," can't Close the door on J.! and; some justification, as a man of busi-i manded the Premier. I '"'P it there tor ever. It wilt slip! ness, and they certainly would' Hoax Statement quoted. i 3:53?th time--when You least ex-i have ruined Hydro," he said. l! didn't. tt.ut!t"t there Wit! ll Rather than cast aspersions oni jChalliea 8uotef Beek. Ens. replied the Opposition the honestnerm and fairness of his t In continued references to the eader. You wanted to play poll: motives. the Premier. submitted Mr 'old contracts. George H. Challies ties on .the ttack-to-Niagara policy." Macaulay, should acquiesce in iii? '(Cons.. Grenville-Dundas) pointed Premier Hepburn then read ex- earlier request for a committee oi. [out that they were ratified by the tracts out of Dr. lions statement, Investigation-at which there might; asame engineers, who now, with the to tho tttttt that there had been be subpoenaed to appear and teli' gexception of F. A. Gaby, formerly no negotiations. either directly or their stories. such people a: Mri Chief Engineer of Hydro, were indirectly. until after he had been Lvon, Dr. Hogg Mr Henrv 'pmiii "Skins! the House to validate the ppointed. - B ' ."'" Ch . ; inew ones. He claimed. too. that "Y ' dent of eauharnois. legal negotia. l . " . . . ou won't up, the word of Dr " B . ~Sir Adam Beck. the inspiration of a" ' tors. and ethune Smith, Treasur- I " a". he asked. " of the Liberal Party." ;Hydro. in 1923 and 1924 warned "Wm you take the word of The . [of power shortage, and, blocked Job, and Mail?" returned Mr. Ma- itroni the St. Lawrence, had advised ulay. i , (getting power from Gatineau at . ' '515. i He pictured, too, what might have i l ___-___-___-L_.-,,-,,,---,,------------'

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