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ince, both ~public and separate Col » onel Drew submitted tnat schools, not because we ArC PAYINZ | while there was strong feeling over them money, but because it is \:m: the matter, he was against any one to the survival %f the nation, fih' being summarily dismissed without we have the right to say to th0s® | trial, He agreed with Dr. Simpson's teaching our youth that they Sh@ll| | suggestion and he emphasized that ' further the cause of British demo¢ | | the Legislature's disapproval had racy. : been made amply clear and that it * And again, in conclusion, Colon®!| | would be advisable to wait until % Drew insisted that members of th¢ | | those in authority in the university Legislature had the right to say that | | naq hnaqd an opportunity to consider "in the schools they shall teach what the problem. we know as British democracy and | Colonel Hunter agreed to have shall not do anything to assist s}'h'u_ the resolution stand, and Premier versive elements which are seek!n2 | | Hepburn, indicating his approval of _ | to destroy these ideals in which W | ne suggested course, read to the !h"l""""-" '| House a telegram he had received "Sadly Disillusioned." Mr. Hepburn said it was littte from the Newmarket Lions Club. wonder that Col. Drew had spoken "I\'h; memb;rs.cetheur:rco:mg:\&?:::l: as feelingly on the matter as he ad passe ns | Professo { had. "lleghas had an enviable war . Grube's statement and, as taxpayers.\ ||most d?re:ts.l; ngo:::::;cslit{vi':glc;:l: \record as we all know," said he, submnt'ted the province might re-- | terday's episode in the Ontario Leg-- "and h efought overseas in defense| duce its grants to the university |jgature which witnessed the public of the freedom we all here enjoy."| until the board saw fit to v:\eed censure of two Toronito education-- Reading from the newspaper story from the staff" members WhO§€¢ | ;i« were reluctant to discuss the of Prof. Grube's remarks, the utterances indicated disloyalty. Issues Taised or To eni@rgeron a.n.v-' Premier admitted that long ago. o m thing said on the floor of the Hou§& when first a member of the House ; Uciammi H. J. Cody, president of the niversity of Toronto, told The '!of Commons, he too had looked Globe and Mail that further com-- |askance on estimates for armaments. . ment would be "both unnecessary \ But now, he had to confess, he had and unwise" until the Board of Gov-- been sadly «disillusioned. Ramsay | , ernors had acted in the matter. Macdonald, whose ideas he had once | "'The board met today," he said, supported, had lulled not only Eng-- "and although we had no knowledge land but the whole Empire into a of what was taking place in the \state of apathy. Baldwin had con-- Legislature, the matter was raised| . tinued the lulling, with Manchoukuo, |\ at our meeting by one of the mem-- | Ethiopia, Czecho--Slovakia, and now bers in connection with printed | Albania as the result. _ j utterances . a§cribed _tg_li{'ofessor those men who invetedi fur Underhill. The board is taking im--] bania," said he, "were no better % f s o C sc' f | i f, P mediate steps to investigate this than burglars. They took the physi-- o Padugk: o % situation, and until this investiga-- cal assets of that little country and ti has tak | L 'd c Db \ shot all who opposed them." lion has taken place i 4o NOW OS E* f j lieve I can say anything further. Mr. Hepburn said he realized that % | sihis s »» First of all we must learn whether |Prof. Grube--"this foreignetr n whe Professor Underhill made the state-- sought to speak "disparagingly" of & remes C | Imi ment attributed to him. |\ the Empire belonged to Trinity Col-- The fact that a man ig innocent lege. But the fact remained, he said, i . f f until proven guilty, he added, was that those at that college have been 4 he_ | > one of the basic principles of de-- educated earlier at the expense of the taxpayers of the province of | mocracy. He expressed the belief O':tar?ép yers . that Professor Underhill would be "I suggest, for the consideration given an opportunity to state his s i If s r ; case before any action would be of this House," said he, "that it . a 7 taken by the board. The Board of might be well for the Legislature °. i Governors, he added, would not to inform the head and the gov-- s o t l on thay consider the issue concerning Pro-- ernors of Trinity College that un-- f C i8 laninl} ; fessor Grube, as he did not come less they seck to discipline this med hora F9 o o us I under their jurisdiction, being di-- Grube in a manner befitting the in-- s sult he hurled at the Empire we rectly responsible to P.rovost Cgs- might well revise the arrangement' f fir\f"é'ofi:gethe Corporation of Trin-- between Trinity and the University, * * A » C f, m Professor George M. A. Grube also l'a:;f-; We 'have ihe.pOWwer "ELC® declined to make any direct. state-- aoee, ment. "Of course I have my own "Some have called me a.prece.fi&ntl- views on this matter," he said, "but buster," he later observed. ell I do not believe this is the time to I'm prepared to bust another pre-- state them. Possibly after we have cedent to get at a man of the .t.'har- heard from the college authorities acter of this foreigner, Grube. I may have something to say." | _ Mr. Hepburn said also that he was Pressed for a statement as to the "dlsapp'om'tgd that t:' l's".l _l°t i:f principles involved in the Legisla-- men constituting the University ture's discussion, the professor said ooX Shefifed IndesniP , in a no purpose could be served by enter> $ 4 ing into any controversy. ' manner befitting "the crime he has 'g'PremieryHepburn referred to you l rmeitled. It smacks of rank sedi-- as a foreigner," a reporter said. "Is tion. that correct?" Colonel Hunter suomitted his mo-- "No," was the reply. "I was born tion and called on members to give in Belgium and moved to England it their unanimous support. Dr. at the age of 14, living there until | Simpson said that while he was en-- | |\I came to Canada in 1928. I was tirely in sympathy with what had \naturalized in England and became ' been said and while he had abso a British subject and a British citi-- | lutely no sympathy w';thd e:;'her bot zenti}:m 19323] Ii)urir}\g the wa(;' I serve:i | the professors, he advise at be-- in the Belgian Army and was At-- fore putting the resolution to A tached to the British forces as an vote it would be "better, safer and interpreter for several years." ' fairer to wait until we have the op-- --~= i n t portunity of hearing from Principu; Cosgrave. Knowing Principal Cos--| grave as I do, I know he is very much worried about the present situation." Colonel Hunter asserted he had been acquainted with Professor Underhill's writing for some time, had sat on platforms with him and \ he was convinced that the action L should be taken. He said the Legis-- lature was a tribunal which had the authority to order drastic action. "We are," he snapped, "criticizing rats who are trying to scuttle our ship of state."