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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 1 Feb 1940, p. 1

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v - v'W . , "T--,----.--- ' " f . _ ', 'thn to charge the Gave..iment vdth F "Was there any"recourse when (whet! blackmail. We are tn " you were Securities Commissioner?" tt any out the affairs of the Gov. asked Premier Hepburn. 'dl",",',',,', and are dealing with es- "No, but I recommended it," re- in ca such as these. plied Colonel Drew. "I held that "What a Field Day." the Securities Commission should Both the Premier and Attorney. not deprive the individual ot hi, t General Conant claimed that, it rights. I right of appeal to the courts w" Poor Man's Chances. l l,',',".",',',',",', u,,",',,,,,',',',,'; nf/il' it. would Colonel Drew argued that the. bill i ed of litigation, should go to legal bills committee! which in all probability would drag in order that such expert advice as' , ------- gsdes 2,'ir2g,t fir:,','.', for years may be called by either side, could . wou e in e y seriously int. be heard. That was the rea! errsecufion Ne." Purpose 'ty, Provincial revenue. the existence of these "d'r',',aii,oirt1t2s", of S u c c a S S t O n Duty d My friend Vases eloquent about he declared. enylng e right of access to the Attorney-General Conant c id ti u er. It was the creation of boards and commts- ------- and necessary .in setting up these I sinus was brought. about by the lived PROGRESS IS SLOW tltit,'. o,','2gr"leg,rdf1Tg'utt,'g 'det'),'";'; basics which could adjudi- ' nsurance ca e on pro ems. " fcilnfht and tthers ot u like chars "To put it boldly and bluntly. a Conservative attack char T er tt pro ect them from litiga. poor man hasn't A chance in the ' am: a tion. w . , l.. . denial of democratic. rt ht . , ive f Ihat'a field day it would I world to enforce his rights because bi . g s m lie I" or utters. We deal annually the enforcement is so long delayed ill to amend the Succession Duty with about 12,000 estates in the and expensive that he cannot under- Act, ran into a'persistent Govern- Succession Duties Branch. There take it," he said. ~:ient (intense ill three crowded would then have to he 12,000 law. "The first board created was the 3,213; do! ',l,',"',1T111yltR'irii debate "mid l0h. what a fine time they Workmen's Compensation Board r tty I" t c otr,islaturv, which trou tttvo'." and it is interesting to note that left the, measure with hut one out Again lhe Premier declared the there is not a single board of any of twenty-seven. sections 'approved Crown did not seek to persecute. In importance that was not set up by in House committee stage at ad. the collection of death dues, ho said, a previous administration. What is iournment. the Government was hut a distribut- the reason for these boards and In large mca~ure the debate was trut 880mm distributing the taxes. commissions? Certainly not one oti but a repetition ot the argument for example. as a municipal subsidy the Prime Ministers of the past had i .w.ltie.h saw Passage at the patent tourcllcve real estate taxation. any desire to deprive citizens of bill in.heated sittings at last Scp- We have collected 825,000,000 their rights. It was to provide in- tember's special session. Then, at in from estates which successfully expensive, speedy settlement of the current se'ispn, there was a eluded~ collection under the former claims. That is the principle which measure of unanimity in matters administrations. Moreover, we have governs Its today. it would not be relating. to the conduct of the war, I mandate of the people to collect necessary if it were possible to have a unanimity which quickly dis- these taxes. The committee of the these rights determined by expedl- 'solved before admitted unequivocal Whole is the proper place for dis- tious and inexpensive access to the! disagreements over the clfect ot custom .We are not going to courts." , terms in the death dues bill.. throttle discussion. Wo want wide- "Is the Attorney-General prepared ', Tenor ot the debate was indicat- open discussion," said the Premier. to follow the British act and peru) £1.31" 333113" lby Constuwative Invites mango". mit the right ot appeal?" asked) lo ).,t'.1. If) opened tt mm Directly after the House went . t Colonel Drew. . . T nged and unsuccessful plea to . mo We are not dealin 1vitl tl ' have the hill referred to the Logis- committee styry Colonel Drew mov- point " said the 'T/on/i/lu/d,, mit iature Legal Bills Committee od that the bill.te referred to the 17 is. not a matter for . 'd, era . wh . . . "M ' legal bills committee. The Premie . . " con" Pration re ere. ',t aggucd. tts' torttts could as quickly asserted that the mot' r at this time. ceive e e . . . _ . ton , . ' ' by a smaller "rm ol d'-'lib'Tt.Wons was out ot order and that such a ' lormer Primer GTrtce Jr-Try lfrCcemmiu"e Which is motion should have been made in said the Premier had mvcn the Im- mpowered to call in outside legal second reading. "I don't. want to 's'g,i',s,,io',tvea),ahde flag. "1,0 only trea- "p. throttle discussion on this hill," be _ ii , . 1VCt a tempted to As I said when we sat. at the added. aget 3. the rt""T.u/P' to which the ','negte'tt't,Ueegsiitin'dedmle,ui'ist,1Si Sugttrstrd prrteodurr WA", that Col. 'i/gr:,')),':,:.,",'.:" 322?": t "r 'ras J), a e assure _ . l ms ra ion, to that he did not impute improper onel Drew should move that the said, which ten years ago amondrrri motives on the part of the Trear Committee of the Whole rise, and ii .th? act to permit. ot investigations tin"). lt is an instrument of legal. the motion carried, to move before being made into closed estates. Ind blackmail." he claimed, in the House proper to refer the hill to Better Than Jucges. support of his motion. the legal bills committee. Conse- . . .. I ..'. ..... 0...... ...... quently, for two hours, the debate oe?f,iee iliighffo/e," .'e'i/11rliaorsta)i, Had . d th id . . -. ran presumably on the motion that Government to "e re usa f.) the the 't%' led" 9130:"? which the committee rise. hut covered the courts ma 810:1 rCo1"se to hands mo? Td ST? If.'.'.','.. Itt .lly. largely the principle of the hill. In by the F,'d'de.',','el , uations made which at th e 'f'l'i,1,',"i"2'r,',Td. the ond, the motion was defeated. drive mono l apartment would allow the t'.1fiost'1',re 43:51:: it; Colonel Drew's final plea was: Province yan C1 Izens out of the . .". . "Ono at the greatest objections to " . . . _ 3:25: teu'.,2',',rll1,, from .thle Treas- the hill would he removed it the s,'hn,d"i, yet., Elem" yy,?,,] hp- ' : '. .' s lesser repeat- Attorney-General was propared tn . . .. late co ect.edtto.l.1u'n..dr.ed salty that m 3T..." the succession adopt the British practice of allow- millions in successwn duties," he u measure tier r . . l . ' said, " ' , ' ITU'. e ttttve right ot Intl right or appeal." a; tt "g.e,ttQtietud1t'g,ll,12'es17,e, "The act destroys the tundatnen. Deters to Britain. don't kill the goose that lays the tat rights established under Magna Colonel Drew stressed that in golden eggs." Carla and the Bill of Rights." he Great Britain. despite the urgent Premier Hepburn said that. he tu.rtrtd"or.te pomt:antl aStam'. "It need to obtain every cent of rev- be.litwef. the treasury officials:, tram- Is Just as dangerous to the demo- enue, there was regard for the ed in finance. were better able to cratic "stem as with"! in. force rights of the individual to appeal to Judge valuations than any board of e"?.". in Germany or it1Russitc" the court ". He was not arguing ljudy's. "How many Jurlr:rs ('Qil dl am lit" CODmlele disagreement against the provision which made trad and understand A finrwlrial H; 'd",',', 'll,'?,',",') e "12"31 PTCEHCI' ll possible for the Proyince to col- statement? As for forcing platonic tt um, an routt out ion revenues from this source. he with monev out of the Province, n." Liberal benches there w" I pointed out, but no matter what the twhen I came into ower I wrote to ripple of applause. l . - . r " : . p T aw was. no Int ividual . hould be de . h l To w t th h " . . . It e Secretary of State for me 8898 " t f? act smacks tiled right of access to the courts. iBahamas and a Red hi 1 how 1mm. of legalized blackmail is manifest- "l _ " I . s in ',". . . . . s that the case with the Income .C , ' c. ty unfair." the Premie id ll d . . on , anadians had established holding tended officials of thesaSucce: . c- Tas M. passed by the Dominion? Icompanies there. I was surprised Du " " sion asked Premier .Hepturn: . ito get three pages of names 'p:u'li. ties Branch " men ofoulstand- Ti 0 L d . ' ' I . i l . ". pposition ea er said the So this Govarnment can t be accused " Gull [cations who do not Premier was completely misinform- of starting the trek n persecute and do not seek to. verse. ed if he thought that doing away . y . cute The onl seek th I . . _.. The Premier said that the tax . . y y e titrltt to with commissions and one-man rate in Ontario was lower than in investment when; fraud is sus- boards would create a field day for _ . 1 , patted" the Premier added . . (England and in many States of tic ' . lawyers. The courts and not com- l . . ' .. T He referred lp several cases in missions or boards set up by Gov- .Uni?.h.atyi that it would perhaps which the Government had reopen. "iiiiiiiiiiis, should he the "{th of .be difficult for 1.hoy 1t1):i,iie1esyto. _ . ' s l ' ed estates and collected from them the individual, he claimed. In Great ""l:gio'l'eTLtfe' f.in,St, 5:81:15. [the large sums. It was not "money for Britain the right was not denied Chamber r tangy/t his lace and ourselves, he argued. It ill be.- the individual of going to the courts. ' e urn o . p - comes the Leader of the Opposr. ito seek redress. . i

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