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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 12 Feb 1943, p. 3

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FEBRUARx 1\2 Objections Are Voiced To 'Precipitate Passing Of Development Bill held it was reasonable to ask for "It should be reali Col. Drew Would Have ;-"PP-'"-"' opinion to learn the facts. swapping PO\\('I"earlil;l:(tic"}?)lr ";ev::fi L t was a pity, he said, the power _ "@minded Mr. 'v, 0 ing 1 E'Peffs Give Comp|eie need "was not recognized som:time the 999 years o[lilel?c:yl'ea::tcrsg':d ti(: £ * ago when adequate reparation is possible that is is Noi Information to House could have been made. uie way of handling 11~ °*) t es e e said he was convinced there| Ie challenged Mr. C '8 8t: Vn-lc.mg strenuous objection to any _ were ot!wr warys of obtaining powerf ments about vanishin,:zaoll;;":i'rlo's ;;a,(:; precipitate passing of the Ontario _ VSTY quickly, and insisted that there| ; FHZCTVES, and cited figures to show Government's Ottawa River power :::oufld heof:)mn a.:)suranco n wUC | 'f:]::: lf;%(};)ohad grown . steadity § s a g from awa about priorities on | 1 13,000,0 h.p. in 5 ;l:'\elopmem bill, Lieut--Col. George -- materials. The St. Lawrence de:| 000000 in 1935. The "'Ol}gffs 4 ho. fi'l:]w gnd momhms of his Opposi-- velopment had been postponed till' dro began when the former Pre-- group renewed in the Legisia-- -- after the war by the United States| mier took office, he said. His hencl ture yesterday afternoon an appeal because ncither material nor man--, _ °" had led him far afield y for prior consideration by a special _ power was available. Was it reason--| Before entering on a l'e.\'iew { committee. Col. Drew supported his| able to suppose the U.S. would| Hydro, Mr. Henry twitted the thrge plea for more complete information| _ give . priority . to _ materials for| | remaining _ members of the original on the Ontario--Quebec agreement | a Canadian plant? To which Hon.| HMepburn Cabinet--Hon. M. F iie by suggesting that power and engi--! W. L. Houck, Hydro vice--chairman, | | Putn, _ Hon. T. B. McQuesten anpt; neering experts, and Dr. T. H. Hogg.| replied that no priority assurancei Hon. Peter Heenan, as well as other c!nlm}an of .tht.' Ontario Hydro-- could be asked until the House} members of the present Cabinet Electric Commission, might even be _ @uthorized the project. | "I've lost all desire to keep tra'vk' called on the floor of the House it-- Col. Drew maintained that Caril--| of the Ministers," he said, referring| _ self to clarify the issue. Jon, in the Quebec half of the pro--| |!° Changes. T The debate was resumed at the _ posed joint development of the Ot-- Mr. Hepburn had said a few years nizht session an_d it was featured tawa, could be developed more| , 480, Mr. Henry recalled, that "I wa; by former Premier Hepburn's first: quickly than any other site, and| 9" the way out. I would like to re.- major contribution to the present _ that Dr. Hogg had said Carilion|. tUI" the compliment to him." session. . He defended his Adminis-- _ was the cheapest and best site, Mr.| Referring to the Minister of High-- tration in a reply to charges made Hepburn took issue on the sta[e-! ways' close association with A. W h',\ George 8. Henry (Prog. Con. _ ment and, after phoning Dr. liogg,'l Roebuck, K.C.. when Mr. Ropi)uvk. East York). Mr. Hepburn adjourned _ later produced a letter from him| was on the Hydro Commission, he the debate at 10:30 p.m. The debate _ denying any recollection of making| suggested that "Arthur was trving will continue today and there is a _ gsuch a statement and declaring that to set up control of the Liberal possibility of another night session. he never felt that way about it nor Party.' The aftoernoon session was mark-- did he now. '"No one controls the Liberal A ed. tno, h.\"lhc- session's first bit of A. H. Acres (Prog. Con., Carlton) P?'.".'\" countered Mr. MreQyosten verbal fencing by the former Prime _ challenged Dr. Hogg to say that 'Probably it has got veyond it," Minister, Hon. Mitchell F. Hepburn, Des Joachims, chief Ontario site in Mr. Henry returned. who engaged in a brief parry and the Ottawa power plan, could be Ml Henry wondered why H. C. riposte with G. H. Challies (Prog. Nixon, former Provincial Secretary, Con., Grenville Dundas). developed as cheaply as Carillon. }_md "I(T" the "charmed circle" and Mr. Hepburn demanded what Mr. "I prophesy he won't do it -- no suggested he was out on a farm in Challies meant by his statement -- engineer would,". said Mr. Acres Brant County "seeking to forget." about being "brought here under _ p,, s f _ _ Rumor said he might be called to false pretenses." Mr. Challies re-- last Is By--Passed. the Red Chamber at Ottawa. He plied that he had not referred to the Mr. Challies, in a lengthy argu. Welcomed the Minister of Mines, bill, but the members. ment,;~het@ that Eastern Ontarie Hon,. R. Laurier (Lib., Ottawa East), "You may think you are. Prob-- was not getting fair treatment in back to his seat--"he rather disap-- ably you always were," Mr. Hopburn regard to power and replied to Hy-- peared for a time last year." Rumor, gibed. dro Vice--Chairman Hon. W. L | 1090, Ssaid he would like to follow "You came down last time and Houck's assurance that Eastern On.: his predecessor "to a more comfort--| fried to beat me," countered Mr. tario was being fairly dealt with by| able seat." | Challies: saying he would invite the insisting that that section was being He criticized failure to proceed seltdemoted Teader" down again. "by--passed" and was losing taxing with the 1931 agreement by which "Well, I'm here and you're over rights and its most valuable power Ontario was to receive 75 per cent| there,." shot back Mr. Hepburn. sites on the lower Ottawa. He Of power from Carillon and con-- "And T'll still be here when you're charged the Government was try-- demned the Government's cancel--. not over there," said Mr. Challies. ing to "rush this thing through in lation of Quebec power contracts. ' Urging avoidance of delay in con-- 24 hours, perpetuating all the blun-- If 3"1 the facis on the Ottawa plan| sideration of the power bill in view | _ ders since 1934." were to come out, he thought 'l of the wartime or?mergency, Premier "Let us cut out party politics in committee should be appointed be-- Conant offered the recent advice of this," was Mr. Acres' advice, speak. fore which Dr. Hogg, Hydro chair-- Prime Minister Winston Churchill, ing after Mr. Challies, and he add-- MAN, might state his case. "We that members "stamp their feet on ed: "Let every man vote as he | may find some sides that are not mischief--makers and sowers of dis-- wishes--and if he does this bill will !all apparent and we're not apt to| cord." The power pact with Que-- "Of;e"MPa-;'s at a"'; & y lge.td them from the Premier," he| bec, he insisted, was "a business ,_M. Frost (Prog. on., ic. | £a1d. f measure, pure and simple." toria) warned of reaction from P "Don't quote Churchill to avoid . | "Tushing" the bill, and told the your duty to this Legislature," said go:'ernmonl: "Y(:iu'\}')e made so many Col. Drew. : ad guesses an een -- wrong so To Mr. Hcpburn's staiement in Often. I wonder \'Vh.\'. I Should accept answer to a remark by G. H. Dun. ; your Judgment on this." bar (Prog. Con., Ottawa South) thai HMHenry Makes Attack. he had been "on the best of terms" Premier Conant's "guileless" pres-- with Premier Adelard Godbout O0f -- entation of the Ottawa River power Quebec when he was Prime Miniss [ agreement to the Legislature, ter, Col. Drew quoted a remark by _ equpled with the Government's rec-- Mr. Hepburn at Port Arthur, AUR. | ord on Hydro during its eight years 24 that "our power negotiations with _ of office, dame in for scathing criti-- Quebec in the past were about.as cism last night from George S. successful as if we were dealing fjenry (Prog. Cons., York East) with Mackenzie King himself." formey Premier, _ _ 4 Drew Quotes Dr. Hogg. "If the Prime Minister allemptsl § Col, Drew objected that labor and _ to force this bill through, and I say | material shortages might hold up it to him candidly, he will rue theg the Ottawa -- River project -- and day," warned Mr. Henry. "If he has quoted Dr. Hogs, Hydro chairman, anything to hide--I do not say he as saving as recently as December has--then let this bill be sent to a that he did not feel a new power special committee and let us ex-- Aevelopment could be undertaken | | AMIN® al! the facts. & at this time for this reason, and that it would take two years to build a new power plant. Col. Drew

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