The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 7 Apr 1943, p. 3

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Premier Gordon Conant answered Opposition criticism of the bill by pointing out that collective bargain-- inz meant many things to many persons and that "construction of a bill of this kind becomes a matter of ecompromise to reconcile the vierws ef many persons." He added that the bill "will be effective to accom-- plish the object for which it has been introduced." Hon. Peter Heenan had warned mgainst passing the Opposition amendment, which, he said, "would be the death of the collective bar-- gaining bill." Answers Criticism. Jloronto Parkdale) said he had heard many complaints about it, and even that it would be contested in the courts. Supporting the collective bargain-- inz bill, C. W.._Cox (Lib, Port Arthur) warned that labor was apprehensive of courts. Ian Strachan (Lib., Toronto St. George), K. HBel-- @Anger (Lib., Prescott) and J. F. Mac-- Kay (Lib., Hamilton East) spoke for the bill. W. J. Stewart (Prog. Con., Premier Conant, moving second reacding, declared the bill complete and constitutional on the strength of advice of his law officers. The bill amending the Judicature Act to establish the labor court was also given second reading in face of Opposition criticism, the House dividing 45 to 12. Col. Drew objected that, though it was known that it was to be a one--judge court, the bill did not so specify. &A labor court was defeated and sec-- end reading was given to the collec-- tive bargaining bill in the Ontario Legislature last night. The amend-- ment was moved by °L. M. Frost «(Prog. Con., Victoria) and second-- ed by Leopold Macaulay (FProg. Con., South York). It was defeated without a division of the House. The collective bargaining bill now goes to committee and it is likely the Opposition members will renew their urging for amendments. The labor court provision was stoutly de-- fended by Labor Minister Peter Hee-- nan, who wound up with a plea for withdrawal of the amendment. He charged attempts had been made by managements opposed to the bill to have it delaved. An Opposition amendment, to sub-- gtitute a Labor Relations Board for Labor Relations Board Amendment Rejected In Bargaining Debate Second Reading Given B e fore Legislature; Bill to Committee ~it (nt2 1@ 00rt Court was ond reading in face of riticism, the House 12. Col. Drew objected it was known that it 1e--judge court, the bill APRIL Speaking to second reading of the bill, Labor Minister Hon. Peter Heenan said there should be no divi-- slon in the House on the principle of -- collective bargaining, and ap-- pealed to the members "to protect the workers of the Province and let us have an all--out war effort." The principle was recognized in the Treaty of Versailles, and he felt he could apologize for all political parties for not having introduced such legislation in Ontario years ago, since "every citizen in Canada is pledged to that principle." Approving the principle of the bill, Opposition Leader Drew urged the Government to defer second read-- ing and redraft the act "with proper Mr. Macaulay sard a great many prople were worried and could not gsleep at night for fear that the col-- lective bargaining bill would be used by labor as a weapon to create a monopoly. The abuses by capital more than a hall--century ago were mentioned by the speaker as being a precedent for labor. But he ex-- pressed the view that there was liltle reason to be disturbed by abuse of power because in the long run it brought on its own destruc-- tion. rremier Conant denied that a one--man labor court's powers were more restricted than those of a board of three. "Very few people will wilfully disobey an order of a judge of the Supreme Court of On-- tario,'" he said. '"If the order. is disobeyed, he has liberty of action to impose any penalty he sees fit." Some Fear Monopoly. To -- Opposition -- Leader George Drew's question as to provision for enforcement, the Premier said: "The court can restrain any per-- zon from committing any violation. 1 don't know what more ample pro-- visions could be made." He felt that enforcement through police courts would be offensive to thou. sands. Provision in the bill for establish-- ment of a Labor court came under heaviest criticism. Claim by Leo-- pold Macaulay (Prog. Con., South YTork) that setting up of such a eourt was ultra vires of the Pro-- vincial Government was denied by the Premier, who said that "the question has been given the ut-- most care and consideration by a voery capable constitutional lawyer, and I'm satisfied it's quite within the jurisdiction of the Province @nd is constitutional." The hill, he said, makes trade unions lawful in the eyes of the civil law, gives employees the right of freedom of organization, pre-- vonts discrimination, makes illegal "yellow dog" contracts, forbids co-- ercion and "leaves enforcement in the hands of a court, as it should be." There was no interfersence with liberty, since an employee could,join a union or not as he saw Iit. That the bill was "vasnusa with liberty, since an employee could,.join a union or not as he saw fit. That the bill was "vague and uncertain" Mr. Conant denied.

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