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Fish poaching Is going on in the K..warlha Lake district "right now," Peter McGillen. Peterboro. told the Legislature's Fish and Game Committee here yesterday. Urginst a $50 fine for infractions of the fish laws, he also suggested tho game wardens be placed under the Attorney-General's department or given police training upon their ap- pointment. The Kawarthas. he said, mm- 1w- ing rapidly depleted of breeding stock and when the "tish are gone our American visitors w',n in ,,ir.""- where else." Game and Fisheriex' Minister G. H Dunbar and his deputy D. J. Taylor are doing the best job under the circumstances. but I don't think they can have good administration under the present setup. In States across the line where they have fish and game commissions. muskies are increas- ing: in Ontario they are decreas- ing." he said. Mr. MoCillen was (inn of a nun:- ber of delegates from fish and game clubs throughout Untmzu. mm "in suggestion of a commission was endorsed by the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters who spon- sored a resolution which reads: "As a meam to the fullest POF- sible efficiency in the management of the fish and game resources of Ontario, this federation recom- mends the creation of a Fish and Game Commission entzrely non- paid and non-political in its com- position and administration." Muskies Being Depleted By Poachers. Dept. Told Henry Heinoman, Pittsburg, pro. sidont of the Northern Ontario Out- fitters" Association, urged biological examination of water requiring TTY. stocking be immediately expanded and all trained men available be employed on a part time basis if necessary to carry on the work. He also urged hatchories be in the Noston Falls. 'Nmamami, Eagle River and North Bay area be built. Recommendations of clubs affili- ated withstho Federation included: A close sevson on piokerel in the Bay of Quinte district; more game wardens. game preserves and sanc- tuaries: reduction of bag limit for speckled trout in Norfolk Countv; further propagation and tearing of muskellunge to tin,gorlins,r or large: sizes; hateheries for hluegills and nappies and a return to the July 1 date for bass fishing in the St. Lawrence. Tho Outfitters also asked that daily limits he rcdurod to five buss, pike, lake trout, pick-oral and two muskics: no new gill net licenses he issued in water that has beon closed to commercial fishing and that gill nets he abolished in sec- tions of the north shore of Lake Huron. There should be a biological study of the From-h River and bet- 101' warden supervision of Cat nr Five Finger Lake in Blair Town. ship. T. A. Golden. Tobermory. presi- dent of tho Lake Huron and Geom- ian Bay Commeteial Fishermen's Association. strongly attacked the Department and its Deputy Minis- ter for what he alleged was "per- secution" of the commercial men. "We have felt for some time we are under the persecution of the De.. partment and our members are burning up at. its neglect," he said. Attacks Department Muck ao Ho doclarnd Mr. Taylor had stop- pcd Canadian fishermen from fish. ing in international watcrs while Americans were free lo do so. "If you asked me if we need a change in the Department I would reply Ives' in a voice that would ring m your ears," he said. "I would put a man in charge who knows game and fish." Chairman J. A. Pt'ingle declared Mr. Golden was taking an unfair attitude in bringing in a personal grievance "in view of the fact the press is hero," while Mr. Taylor de- clared the reason Canadian fisher. men were limited to cortain terri- tories was because "while it may not he fair. if we over start a com- petition neither side will take as many fish in a very few years." The Government could afford to buy out commercial fishermen and give them "enough to start in the tourist business," W. A. Price, To- ronto. declared. since the return to the Province from the angler was so much greater than the revenue from tho commercial men. E. L. Hughes. Nor! h Bay, former president of the Outfitters' Associ- ation, said: "This is not the time to set up a commission. We are satisfied with the present adminis- tration. The department this year is going to spend $1.25 million, and while I don't think it is enough, it is better than we've ever' had. Harold Lyons. Kingston. sought. the assistance of "anybody," who could convince the Federal Govern- ment it should not raise and lower the water levels of Rideau Canal and River. Mr. Dunbar said it was entirely a matter for the Federal Government.