British Whig (Kingston, ON1834), January 27, 1835, p. 3

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inis lion house when there was question ofa job and whose patriotism is only aroised when infor mation is proposed o be sought for on a subject having the closest possible atttuity with our rights and our liberties hut is said continued mr mck that little or no interest is felt regarding if beyond the walls of this house- the fallacy of this state ment may be easily detected in the circumstance that he mr mck after his repeated expulsions was repeatedly returned by the independent con stituency of this large wealthy and populous coun ty he was five times returned to represent them notwithstanding the indignities by which he was as sailed and was not thus alone he would ask an unequivocal demonstration that the people felt as they must ever feci as long as one f park of liberty remains to animate them deeply interested in sub jects like this that have relation to the vitality of their civil rights and social happiness to say that the people feel no interest in such a subject is an unpardonable insult on their understanding but this was not the only point he had to urge to she the excitement created by the event on which the motion for the address is founded he would be glad to know why it was that lord godericli was induced to dismiss from office messrs boulton and hagerman had this circumstance no connexion whatever with his mr mcttv expulsion or what new light had flashed upon his lordships mind to lead him to consent to their reinstatement in power the bearing of these interrogatories would become apparent by the production of the documents refened to in the address under con sideration but whether this address be acceded to or not 1 will not hesitate to state that these two lawofficers of the crown had to retract their own statements and eat their own words if this can be contradicted let ii be done by the production of papers which alone will satisfy the public mind that mr hagerman was not a he states turned out of office if he have it in ilia power to sup port his statement 1 do hereby publicly call upon him to do so by voting for the motion if he de cline this invitation the public will not fail to ascribe it to itsjust and proper cause the learned gentle man states that he was not dismissed from office why then did he address a letter to the bolonial office downingstreet stating his reasons against his dismissal when he mr mck received a number of the christian guardian containing the report of a certain dchate which he would not now dwell upon ho shewed it to lord howick and mr stevens and was requested to state in writing his objections against their holding office this he did and both lord goderich and lotd howick were perfectly satisfia lord howick stated to him mr m tk arc satisfied we have turned them both off vet mr hagermau states that he was not dismissed little did that amiable nobleman lord iodcrich expect the language which was made use of to traduce him by the organs of thee very persons who hid been lor years before and are now again eating the bread of their sovereign here mr mackenzie read an abusive article respecting lord lodrreh from the courier news paper and yet this solicitorgeneral would walk down from his lord v mansion on the occasion of the late municipal elections and record his vote for his friend of mind eye notoriety mr g gurneti who called lord iodjnch his majestys principal secretary of state ax ass when mr egerton kyerson came to england he mr mck got him introduced to mr stanley then colonial secretary and immediately after the statements affecting the conduct of these law of ficers were said to llave been exaggerated and they were restored bytheinfluruce of intrigue falsehood yet i stand up in ibis hon assembly to state that these statements were not only positively correct as far as they went but that they fell far short oi the extent of the rerlity the individual principal ly interested in this serious accusation has an op portunity of defending himself if he can as to requsite do- to refer to a tne practicability of obiaiuiug the cuments hemr mck begged leave message from sir p maitland in which it was stated that it had become the practice to give all auch information when required sir j colborne may be advised to deviate from this practice as a piece of vulgar absurdity but sir james murry were he here would not yield to such sinister in fluence he was an honest and manly gentleman and would not turn to the right or to the left from the narrow course of what he conceived to be his du ty 0 coiwlit a miserable and rnrrupt expediency in mr christie case nil the documents called tot were unhesitatingly laid before the assembly o lower canada and no sufficient reason can be al leged why the same should not he done in the pre sent instance also he mr mck was not ignor ant that it was too often the practice ot our colonial government to send home false statements regard ing the members in opposition in this house and that certain hon gentlemen whose characters were superior to reproach had been traduced and villified with unsparing severity such for example as the hongentlemin who fills the chair of this assembly capl mathews and mr beardcsly now of iv brunswick were not these gentleman denounced an an unprincipled faction a baud of conspira tors here mr mck- read some extracts from the public journals he confessed that he was most anxious that every documeni bearing in this subject should be produced not would he be de terred from pursuing this inquiry by the manceu- cy the lieutenant governor he however conside red that no statement elicited in the heat of de bate ought to be used as an argument for the en quiry if all the documents acre obtained what thuni would he done- would it he said that messrs boulton and hagcrtnan were restored to office on false pretences he believed that his majestys government wore perfectly satisfied with these gen tlemen he would ask was it to be brought for ward against mr hagennan that he voted accor ding to his best judgement on the question of mr mackenzies expulsion as the representative ofthe people of kingston he mr mclean cared not what may be the opinion of hia majestys govern ment he would always vote according to the dictates of his conscience the hon member for the second riding indulged in reflections on the government not connected with tie ques tion and he would not therefore answer them he believed the motion was made not in the proper spirit of inquiry but to suit the discreditable purpo ses of the movers mr perry said it had been remarked that the ad dress had been brought forward too early in the ses sion and that it should not be entertained before the speech from the throne the latter part of this objection was easily answered it need nut be pre sented to his excellency until the speech was final ly disposed of the former part it wiis not neces sary for him to dwell upon there should be fco procrastination on questions of public interest and this he believed to be one of that class it was also stated by an honorable member that every thing re lating to the expulsions of the hon member for the 2d riding ofthe county should be expunged from the journals but he mr p was not aware how this could be effected except by the regular way of motion but it appears a motion was likely to be made for expunging those resolutions and the hon gentleman from haldimand said he would vote for it bat this was just like all his pledges and ofthe same character as his general conduct on the floor of that house another hon member said that it wasuf no importance whether the hon and learned solicitor general had or had not told a falsehood he mr p thought very differently it was a matter of great importance and for the honor of the house he hoped it would be clearly ascertained that no one of its members was capable of such un pardonable impropriety he mr p had not rea son to be pleased with mr h v conduct upon many occasions but more especially on that ofthe recent election for lenox addingtou on that occa sion whilst he threatened him mr p with his ovtrwhthning influence he acted the threefold part of demagogue agitator and merryandrew du ring the day spent there he was seen he his majes tys solicitor general was seen walking up to the hustings arminarm with intoxicated voters whis pering in their ears when about to give votes and then hurraing as became one filling a high office under the crown when the elector had recorded his vote in favor of mr cartwright under the influence of whiskey and deceit on one occasion he smart ed under the infliction of disappointment he brought up a man on whose vote he calculated with certain ty but to his honor be it said that his suffrage could not be purchased with whiskey or the learned so- llchor praiseworthy condescension yet he thought he should discard every prejudice from his mind and give him as far as his vote could efllct it an op portunity of rescuing his name from the loul impu tation of falsehood mr hs boasted influence over his mr ps constituency will not prevent him from this act of justice but at the same time he must observe that it was a mere boast and no thing more substantial let him come forward with me said the hon gentleman to the hustings even of the county in which he was born and there too he may discover that he is not possessed of that ex traordinary influence over mens minds which he vainly arrogates the remarks made by the hon and learned gentleman had no other object than to depreciate his mr fs usefulness and influence in that house but this is not the moral power to ef fect his motives are too flimsy not to be seen through and his majestys solicitor will shortly have to bar the mortification and disgrace of being convinced by his failure that lie is not higher than insignificance in thecountrys estimation with re gard to the motion mr p observed that he was more and more convinced of the necessity of its adoption his excellency the lieutenant gover nor stated the reasons of the dismissal of the law- officers of the crown this statement has been une quivocally denied by the hou aud learned member in this conflict of assertion is it not due to the hon from the co j to represent the fact that lands were gv to the hon member for lanark he had on the ftuhority of sir john colborne in a state- jjjj of law grants sent by him to the colonial unices it yfa t stated that mr morris had re- cei fow acres for what services nobody can tell fadqjd j be for services in this house attt g would vow against the address and even should upaas he believed that his excellen cy would ik grant the information it required mr moaftb denied that the 1000 acre he recei ved were for parliamentary services it was a milita ry grant he denied too that he was a halfpay officer the add s or before a committee were there ii in the johnston district that could be could he trusted with die conduct o ible to for a witness w was carried by n majority of one leeds election tuesday jan 20th today c genl brought forward a motion for the issuing a commission to examine witnesses with regard the election of the county of leeds i his elicited considerable discussion in favor of the motion the principal speakers were messrs gowan solicitor general richardson samson m lean aid ft gmith they argued that the court of ki bench professed the power to issue a commisson the house of as embly which was a bight court certainly possessed the same power and bei a wit nesses on bvtf sides it would be a manifold injus tice to conipq all those persons to come up here at this tune of k y w bi sl of e r0hd the rites of travelling c offered such obstructions many poor i perhaps not a shilling yet would be cqp i come here at their own ex pense and remain during a long and tedious ex amination ol sj large a number of witnesses if they did not serjeant atarmswasuodoub to be sent tv b them and they might be cast intojail wtjm rest of the session it was not the custom of r to pay expenses and it as j u prayer ofthe petitioner wod be declar ed frivolous lll vexatious nor the conductof the sitting members contumacious and vexatious in re sisting the amanda of the pctitioncrsvthe poor people whp be called up would receive no compensat was asserted that the ends of jua tice might b w he served by a commission is- sun as iiy bringing the voters up to the bar ol this house not three in found who these enqui aiu as f as regards one being tin- i a correct judgement as to whether a s giving correct testimony the evil would equa jjj both parties there could no justness be while the house was proceeding with this conceal election and thus the valuable time finite country is lust on the other band it was ably contended by wears p perry w l mackenzie morrison malland uoblin that though the powers of thi liloust to issue such commission was not denied et that did not prove the propriety of so doing commission had been appointed only once and then the committee rejected the evidence as unfit riu be received as to the large number of witness- ys it was asserted thai not more than 12 persons would be called upon to ste their evi fence before the committee as it had been stated hat the sitting members had got on their list of uh- messes many of the names which were on the pe atioucis lit and it was also admitted that the attor ney general had placed more names on the roll that they would be inclined to call up for the pur pose of displaying numerical strength it was im possible to tell when evidence was taken at a dis- miice it ofitn htijiciicd when a witness was called upon to answer he would proceed to explain and ex tenuate the conduct of the party he was identified with many questions also which might escapr others might occur to more of the members but they could not ask when the evidence was taken al a distance it was a fundamental rule of the bri tish constitution that when the court was to de cide upon a case the witnesses were always examin- ein and it was giving no advantage to more than the other in bringing the wit- to the bar of this house this question was one of great importance it was whether the first lawyer in the country had aided and abetted in lite riots which were stated to have taken place it was neces ary to examine and how could the examination be taken with greater advantage than before a committee of this house where mem bers would have an opportunity of examining he appearance and hearing the evidence and judging ill this contradictory ease for themselves thfe mgof the legislature to himself and moan ogler gowan norton and wilkinson it was earned some complaint was made the following day that matters were not managed right and mr roblin moved to add mr mackensiea name to the committer mr m said his name ought not tot placed on any committee where the least suspicion of personal interest could exist he added that he did not much like the selection mr mcnab had rnade and would move that the matter be set at rest for the session by appointing a committee offive by ballot this was strongly opposed by messrs ro binson gowan aud others but carried by a major ityof live and messrs nortou shaver smith uruce and yager are the committee british whig to correspondents wccnnnojimettlhccoinmunkaiioq from a bok sterthr an mr r hsighf s communication ehah appear oafrlday to subscribers sueli of our subscribers asdo not rcedfftdm british whigaflcr e termination ortnc preaeni volume will pefixuy coqaptriieod the i n why ii u withheld kingston tuesday evening jan 27 1835 by the way of boston we litve liverpool dates to the 22ni all four days later vvt have been unable to glean any fori iher intelligence concerning the important movements in eng land exceptthefaut that parliament was tobe dissolved oa the 31st december in looking over another paper wo find the following im portant itcmi london dec 19 the earl of aberdeen hass been removed from the admiralty to the colonial department to make way for lord de grey who 13 to be firat lord of the admiralty lord granvdle somerset ia to be first commis sioner of woods and forests lord lowiher is we understand to be chancellor ofthe duchy of lancaster the hoard of control is to consist of lord el lenborough sir andrew grant and messrs plant and sullivan sir john becket is appointed judge advocate general there are rumors of sir james scarlett having a peerage and that lord combermere is to go to ireland as lord lieutenant or o india as governor general or commanderinchief it seems generally believe that a dissolution of parliament will take place soon after christmas postscript 6 oclock p m the following ap iimiitfriipmn htitm nrtw iransttiqnl lord ldward somerset burveyor general of ordnance colonel perceval treasurer of ordnance sir wm kae bartj lord advocate the lion stuart wortly under secretary of state for the colonies it is also reported that the duke of buccleuch u to be lord lieutenant of ireland wo lay before our readers today parliamentary lotelligtnci up to thc22nd inst the struggle between thutoriesand re- frrmcrs appears to bo a hard onealthough as yet the latter hav arrieil all their mcmutw but tin majorities have been small an address to the crown for copies of all correspondence rela tive to the dismissal of the crown officers and their reappoint ment has been moved uu 1 cairied but is not expected that thm information requited wilt be afforded mr- mckenzie has been a little petulant in the houe but tbe lesson be received will teach lmn to restrain his temper within due bounds ba uiars his usefulness through his impetuosity of disposition ed before th one party n esses up gentleman is it not due to the lieut governor is n not due to the dignity of this house but above allj is tc not due to the honor of our most gracious so- vereign that an immediate inquiry should be uikcm houcbok5to luted the question resolve ibwll simply iittoihis t voice of uie electa whether u certain exalted personage or a certain solicitor general has told a falsehood and sure- hvaa not a question whether a or k would represent die county of leeds it was a question whether electors would be respected it was a qucs- which miirht stamp the character of thai persons to sit who were not willi regard to the loss- of time hon members could be attending commit- l t tees and otherwise engaged in the important busi ly no hon member will doubt the expediency and twm ofthe country justice of investigation when persons of their eleva- mr pkrrv m lc ordcr 0 f le day for e ted rank are placed ui such a dilemma equally di- c of nega lh motion when there were reputable to their individual character as it isiiyuj j his motionytas 27kavs27 nous to the majesty of england but it has been ths g kw then ctcred jmo the said that his excelleocvmy supposed the reasons merrito he question delivered a most eloquent gentleman s dismissal ibis he could he concluded by giving his casting vote iin favor nf mr perrys motion the trial there venngofhis opponents who spoke so much aboui roads and bridges these he was ready to admit were objects that demanded the most mature deli beration and he would be ever ready to concur in any motion for their consideration and improvement but even in the supposition that gentlemen at the opposite side been sincere he did not believe that roads and bridges alone constituted all the wants and wishes of the country mr mck then aain stated that he was required when in england io state his objections to the reinstatement of messrs hagerman and boulton and notwithstanding that he had done so that mr h was restored to office and mr b created chief justice of new foundland now he wished to be informed upon what grounds they were so leappointed after the v had been declared at the colonial office unfit and improper persons to hold any office under his majesty government we are said he the grand inquest ofthe country and it is therefore our bounden duty to enquin into the matters and it s hoped it will not he seen that hon members will consent to stifle the spirit of enquiry but will come forward like freemen regardless of the smiles or frowns of power discharge their duty to the coun try by voting for the address mr mclean saw no good could possibly rtiault from this address and it should therefore have his most strenuous opposition- it has been observed said he that certain hon- members are opposed to enquiry yet noargument has been advanced to show what is the benefit to be derived ftom the contempla ted address only one paltry reason was adduced by the hon member for lincoln that there was a difference between the succulent of the hon and learntd solicitor general and that of hia excellent ofthe hon gentlemans dismissal this he could not credit for a moment his excellency is too much a man of the world to implicate his character in such a manner when called upon to state bis reasons he could not for a moment think of substi tuting for them the vagaries of his own imagina tion- the meau subterfuge therefore that bis ex cellency acted on mere supposition can prove no thing to the point unless perhaps it was intended to show that hi excellency was a weak man and in that case to lax his imbecility with the impropriety under consideration he mr p would never con sent to such an outrage on his majestys represen tative it has also been urged that air iliackenic had made false statements if so let it be made appear and he pledged itimself thai he would be among the first to censure and condemn him we are all aware said he that statement have been privately sent home from this country by sir i maitland in which certain hon members of this house were represented as factious demagogues and yet we find them sent back to the house as rep resentatives of loyal and respectable constituencies their characters were shamefully traduced and the were only shielded from ruin and degradation in the warm affections of the people who knew their worth and public virtue under circumstances such as these he could not conceive upon what ground the desired information should he withheld hy could not imagine that in a house like this the spirit of inquiry which is the animus of free institution would be resisted and he concluded by daiini an hon member who professed to be a reformer tu vote against the motion jiff mackenzie hon members say there isn interest taken by the public on these subjects lit however knew there was were they not aware that 3000 signatures tou petiiion were received thank in his majestys government for the dismissal o these officers and he would tell the hon member foi simcoe w b robinson that 600 of these wero fore will take place at the bar ofthe house a provincial hank mr mvrriu moved se conded by mr hykert that messrs robinson macnub and c duucomhe of oxford he a com mittee to take into consideration the expediency ol establishing a provincial bank within this province with power to bend for persons and papers and re port thereon by bill or otherwise this was agreed to and mr merritt is one ofthe committee thursday 22ad the louse has been almost all of yesterdu occupied in discussing certain rcsoluiions proposed by the hon member fur lenox and addingtou on which he contemplates to ground an address to his excellency in reply to the speech frum the throne at the opening of the session with every desire to gratify or readers we cannot in this num ber on account of its crowded state present them even with an outline of the speeches delivered the resolutions are jut of that character that reformers would wish them and were carried b large majorities monied afkurs amotion was made to en quire into the monied concerns of the country aad into what was in its prppersensr money the first object was to obtain the sense ofthe house as to the manner in whiclnhe investigation should take place whether it should be divided and referred to several committees and whether there were not matters in it which might not as well be deferred for the present it seemed to be the general opi nion that no one committee could get thro with the many questions of receipt and expenditure it embraced it was therefore negatived with the understanding that the matter should he brought forward again iu such a shape as would meet the views ofthe house printing of tub house mr mcnab moved ihe house fo a committee to superintend ths print- we mftntion the following occurrence which hppeood s few days ago in thi town for the sake ofthe caution to pa rcnu liow tlicy allow ignorant persons to administer modi cine to children f lie lofant child ofa respectable tiadeamao hardly a week old being elihtly indisposed a neighbor re commended some laudanum and suiting the action to the word cave the poor intjnt so large a dose that it eunk into tate of lethargy horn whch it revived only to die toconvul ions laudnmim should never be given to children without ths sanction ofa medical man and even then there areverr fevr case that will julily ita exhibition to infant ofa tender age a fiiend little knowledge is a dangerous thiog our yankm the editor of lh journal who astonished this town with the profundity of h knowledge lias lately hud th temciity to enter the list with the literary hero ofmontreal the slashing ami i ni u thorn and a a mutter uf course will gel himself most tremendously wnllopped he ventures i pun upon the mighty thorn but a usual only shews his ignorance for however anlioua the good folks ef lincoln may he to havcdieir great bell known to au around yetita rival of oxford had hitherto borne the belle initong and hksv witness the concluding stanza of that noted catch tjir rany cjtfin orwt bell tingle tingle ling goe the smafl be ft at nine tn call oiu bearers home butuiedjilaman will leave his can 1 till he hears the mighty tm tlc manner in whit h the editor of the whig has been blackguarded and scandalized both in his public and private capacity by tha conductors ofthe chronicle might justify bun in dr tailing to the country at taige the particulars ofa late iran miction not very creditable to the parties concerned and which to say the least of it has very much the appearance of a yan kee trfdu p let time gentlemen who delight go much in picking holes in other menscoau be careful to manage their own matters so a to ass oncensuredt uf the toronto courier anil recorder of wednesday and thursday last have been received but neither of them con tains one wuid of parliamentary news the proprietors of these papers may deem it consistent with their notions of pro priety io withhold die debates ofthe house from their readers because they are not remunerated directly for them but have the public not to say in this matter surely they have and he subscribers and advertisers of these newspapers espe cially the courier hive a right to expect some attention paid to their wishes on liib head 0ve hapten to correct a mistake of ours relative tu the purchase ofa new pairofvupeudeni angliee braces by that worthy and talented gentleman mr- john vincent in con sequence of his unmentionables hanging about his hcela die oth er day uncommonly low an acquaintance put the question to him plump when he roundly denied having been guilty of any such extravagance asserting uiat he could always do with out gallowses by giving his trowsera an occasional hitch icr since wo last went to press another alteration bu bea experienced in the weather on sundayit rained heavily and vesterday the weather was so warm as utterly to destroy thesieiliing in this vicinity we understand that the latenlca have driven tin tco from out ofthe upper and lowor gaps and destroyed tlie road between kingston and the baj of quintc ictthc general quarter sessions for the midland district are hofdenthis day at adolphustowo bleb- in thid town on the 24th inst of consumption sarah the wife of david williamson esq in the 27lh year of her age the illness of this lady which terminated so fatally com menced on the 2nd- nov last and during her protracted sick- nch seldom have been iritntihod such trulychrisijan fortitude and resolution aware a short time after her affliction that her dissolution was inevitable nota moment did she repine at the divine will although hard indeed was the struggle at her carlv to part with an attentive and affectionate ilu band and a largo circle of friends who admired her for her ma ny virtues yet teligion in her triumphed over nature aodaf- ter taking leave separately of all sho held dear on earth with out breathing a sign she yielded her spirit to her god stead iest id the hope of salvation through the merits of her redeemer in eaniestown r- switzer on the sfitf inst pbiltuts the wifo of m wanted aiv active lad about 14 or 16 yrars of age as n apprentice in a grocery store ia this town apply at thta office kinfe january 99rd 1w 4f

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