lo dtttcnlers the siaic merely requires thy scctiri- tv of si civil contract for the protection of iliecommu- iiiiy not lets of thai rt ofil which dissent than nf that which conform 0 and fur the ret that is to y with regard to relipotwformi of whatever kind nr the auence of nhgmtn forma nf all kind the dine ter nrc left to take what course they plerrt the right hon barwrt jiimihed tins mode of cut ting ihs knot which preceding statesmen have liro- n their fingers in trying to untie by showing that previoutto lord hardwirkeehill in 1751 the law nfiliia country imd ever sanctioned nurrhige as a civil contract and having made good tin position from lord stoweirjudgment in thecal of dal- rymple v dslrympfe and other hfrh authorities disputed indeed by dr lushington but confirm ed by sir john campelh the attorney general and mr c fsrguwon he eaid that his plan was con- formsbu to the law of the country as it stood up to 1754 and that he was acting according to reasun ud good sense in leaving to those who desired a religious form of celebrating the marriage contract u msre binding or more solemn and tho must be the best judges of what form would impress them most the choice of that form among nil existing forma or the liberty to create new forms the details of the bill as described by the right hon- baronet will be as simple as its princi ple the incisure will enact that in the case of parties being dissenter and objecting to be mar ried according to the forms ofthechurcltof england il shall be competent for them to go before a ma gistrate of the hundred in which one of them has resided for more than seven days past and declare their inteminn of entering into the married state an oath similar to that taken oti applying for a marriage license now will be required on the first visit to the magistrate the oath will set forth the name and place of residence of the party will de clare that he is uot a member of the church of eng- lsud and that he objects to be married according to the rites of that church that he has dwelt in such and such a place or seven dhys past thut the par ties are of age or that they have the consent of their perente and guardians c and that there is no pwful impediment to the marriage wnhin any period after audi application to the magistrate nor less than fourteen days nor more thau three months the pariies may again present themselves before he magistrates and go through a simple form of civil contract singing a declaration that teey consider themselves to qe a matt and wife this will consti tute a legal marriage under the measure of sir it peel it remains only to add to this summary of the hill that the magistrate befere whom the marriage takes place will be required to transmit the declnrn- 1isr f marriage to the parson of hit pariah ftht will hcrequirrd to register it in the same manner as he registers marriages solemnized by himself the fees in the whole will amount to 7s of which 2s arc to be paid to tbt magistrate and 5s to the parson it ianly necessary w mj that this plan has met wirtrfeuerai approbation both in and out of parlia ment migrant visskls mr w e- gladstone one of the lord of the treasury moved for leave to bring in a hill to re peal the act 9 george iv c 21 for regulating the carriage of passengers in merchant vessels from the united kingdom to the continent and islands of north america and to make further provision for regulating the same and explained its provisions mr hume expressed his anxiety that the most efficient measures should betaken to provide for the eomfortandsecurity nf the emigrants mr oaring suggested that the bill should be brought in tho first instance and that in committee they might consider such amendments as might be proposed it wms quite clear from the ill success of the system of leaving alone that legislation on the subject was absolutely necessary one nf the principal things to be regarded by this bill was the greediness of captains which often induced them tu take n greater number of passengers than could be conve niently or safely accommodated in their vessels the danger of such a practice had already been fa tally evinced in the sacrifice of00 lives in two rr three vessels which went down and from being in conveniently crowded a feeling of humanity ilonc then ought to urge the house to lose no time in de vising tome remedy for evils affecting parties who had not the means of protecting themselves if hon gentlemen opposite could devise any better remedy than that proposed by hia hon friend he would gladly support it mr kuthven suppoited the bill lord ssudon thought the bill was ffrvatly wanted hfiw i uttff96 instances in which vessels had left our ahores with emigrants scandalously defi cient in the means of giving due accomodation to the number of passengers they took on biard he would trouble tlie house with only one in a ship which left england for van piemans land with 130 passengers there were in one part of the ship 26 persons in a space not exceeding 23 feci by 11 feet 5 and in another part of the alnp ill a space not exceeding 53 feet by 23 were stowed away 102 persons and this during a voyage of five months sir r bateson said that as a very large share of the emigration from ireland went from the part of ireland with which he waa connected he begged in the name of the inhahitantaof that part to thank the hon member for having introduced this bill mr p m stewart suggested that some arrange ment should be made by which the seaworthiness of vessels taking out emigrants should be ascertained at the responsibility of the government it was well known that vessels which were hardly scawonhy for other purposes were taken up to convey emigrants and he believed that there was not a greater hin drance to emigration than the dread entertained of ihc unseaworthiness of those vessels generally mr m phillips thought the proposed measure as necessary and practical n improvement as could be devised he would venture to suggest as an en couragement to parties emigrating and as a means of preventiug them from fquanriering by gaming or otherwise on the passage the little funds tlwy had prepared for their settlement in the colonies that an opportunity should be given to them nf deposi ting the surplus beyond the ex pence of the voyage jn the hands of government here they receiving an order on the government of the place where they landed to be paid on their arrival mr bernard adverting to the inferior kinds of ships frequently takn up for emigrants suggested that no others should be permitted to be eugacrrd which were not of class a i and no vessel over 2 years old should on any account be permitted to take out emigrants after a few words from mr ewart and mr o dwyer which were not heard in the reporters gal lery leave ras given to bring in the bill state of canada mr p m 8tewart said he had n petition to pre sent from the inhabitants of montreal and it vicini ty in lowet canada and he thought it but fair to the house and the country to mention the actual i atate of parties in that country the petition was signed by 11170 individuals of whom there were about 1000 french canadians the remainder being i british and irish settlers they first expressed i their gratitude for the security they enjoyed under the protection of great britain and went on to atata that they regarded with regrrt and alarm the tsodencv of the resolutions passed by the house of assembly in that colony- but that vfajlt ay de plored the necessity of external legislation they re lied with confidence on the wisdom nnd justice of the british house of commons lie ought to ob serve that the canadians were as much split into parties ns was this country and there were distinc tious amongst the canadians as well as elsewhere there were many nf what were called liberals or reformers but there was a distinction there as well as litre between constitutional whigs and radicals he believed there was a majority nf the party called constitutional whigs in lower canada the peti tioners further stated that they were not insensible to the grievances thut had been complained of nor to the fact that there were too many members of the house of assembly holding office under the crown to the redress of these abuses he request ed the attention of hon members and he could not but condemn the interference thai had taken place on both sides of the atlantic in the affairs of cana da firmly believing that had they been allowed to proceed according to their own plans the complaints contained in the petitions would never have been put forward in order to afford the lion and learn ed member for bath an opportunity of contradicting statements that had been widely circulated he would refer to an anonymous letter which had been ascri bed by every newspaper to the hon and learned member it was dated on the 37th of november and from grays inn after the change in the minis try and was snt to canada without any signature it congratulated the canadian legislature on the near approach of the radicals to power stated that spring rice had deceived them and asked them if he returned to power to make his place as difficult as possible by granting no supplies and harassing him as much as possible he waa glad to learn from the speech made by a right hon gentleman op posite a few nights ago that it was the intention of government to do what they could for canada would the hon member persist in proposing the repeal of the tenure act that would be to restore the feudal or old law he knew that it would be said that he was pcnthinllyinterested in the subject as a member nf the canada company but in that respect he could say that he had paid his money and got nothing for il and his only object as well as that of the company was to encourage emigration am to spread education in lower canada that company had been established under the sanction of a committee of that house and its establishment was for the sole benefit of canada itself mr gladstone interrupted the linn member to appeal lo him whether it was wise to pursue this course now when the government bad promised in quiry and had appointed an individual to proceed to the canada to institute inquiry under such circumstances ought such extensive details to be hpnetli mr roebuck could not admit the propriety of this interruption as the lion member was limiting himself to the objects embraced by the petition mr p m stewart tu continuation observed that he had done his best to advert lo the details of the petition he had not sought lo do more the people of canada were still a sensible and loyal people and he hoped that this country would show such a sympathy with the complaints of the cana- das as to remedy abuses which would he the most ef fectual way of allaying discontent and appeasing dissemion mr roebuck said thnt there had been in this country as well as in the cauadas the most unjust garbling of his statements and letters even the hon member who had just spoken had declared that he advised the canadians to appeal to arms his reply to this would consist in reading ill letter which had been referred to he then read a long extract of a letter which concluded by declaring to the people of canada that it was better to fight that to lose their right but that they ought to resort on all exertions before they thought of arms hear hear to try all means before resorting to arm he would ask whether that justified the statement which had been m title what he had stated in thai letter he siill adhered to then the hon gentleman talked about constitutional doctrine but he would ask did not the whig government in order to get the reform bill passed excite the people of eng land and he would in the same spirit endeavor to excite the people of cunada in order to get them a refnrm bill and a reform bill which he imped wnd give them the power of governing themselves they had resolved not to grant the supplies would any one say that waa unconstitutional whonsuch ft course was even now contemplated by a british house of commons he knew it was contemplated in a very short time to try the strength of the house upon hmfi j s im4vl t alkuglh upon the army estimates was uot that a constitutional mode of harassing the government if no one took ihat step in the course often days he himselfwould doit and if the house did not stop the supplies he would say that he would not be answerable for the people of england the people of canada had lesisted the supplies and he declared that according to his notion ofthc law that was a constitutional step and he hoped the house nf commons would endeavor lo slop the supplies in imitation of their good brethren of canada they were told by these parties that it was an english and french difpute hut he would tell him that it was a dispute between tory and liberal principles though the truth was that the tory party was much weaker he was hap py to say in canada than ihey were in this country the only remedy that appeared to him was a pro per alteration of their constitutional assembly for he was convinced that unless they did take away their constitution a it stood at present there would be no possibility of effecting any amelioration tu their condition and if they did nnt they would make one fnr themselves he intended to abandon the first of the three motions f which be had given notice that for the belter regulation ofcana- da but he did intend most positively to press his other two the repeal of the tenures act and the land cnmpauy act it was said that this would reduce this grand tenure act to what was termed the fuedal system now the fact was that it would embrace a system forming as near as possible an exact copy of the copyhold tenure in this country instead of as he had been represented by some par ties stirring up a spirit of undue commotion in ca nada he had requested the people to give a hearing to the commissioner that they should meet him in a calm state but that in their representations they should adhere tn these 2di3tinct propositions name ly ihat they should have the whole of the revenue under their control and that a decided alteration should he made in the legislative assembly he mentioned these facts ihat the government might know what they had to expect the letter dated nov 27 from grays inn and without a signature was not his though attributed to him mr p m stewart explained he had never said and never meant to declare that tn stop the supplies was an unconstitutional mode of proceeding and at ihi moment in particular for he considered the principle the keystone of die power of the house of commons mr hume remarked that the conservatives had formed associations in that country which had the very same objects in view as the conservatives in thiy country hear he was happy lo hear a few eveningk before from the right hon ilnronet that a commission would be appointed to settle the differ cucea in canada he wished lo know when ihey would be informed of the nomination of the com- nniors f the chancellor of the chequer waa in momen- prevent date that the cholera had not raited tint taryex of a final anjind but quarantine had been aj i at slym mrftom the gentlemen nominaied and hope pntaofvemel that i1and in conae and so the that he might be ennbled to thai evening mr robinson assured fl n of the house that the hon member for middlesex in asserting that the petiiion came frofr party in cana da did that which waa mo llke mislead ihc house the petition came a py canada and those who aigned it w me of fll religious pursuasions and every vtfw r political opinions hear it was not fair cast imputations upon such a class of pernio- certainly could not approve of he condu n for bath who called upon thec to harass not only his majewa psent wownmeni but every fumrc government that mr ormed hecmiltl tell the hon member for fr s continued to address the np a so long as he should corp in canada o long would p long would he prlvent jdw ben done people of canada had pci ca9c hand8 of the member for taunto he hon member for bath i j seat j l it was to he regreiteri tfevt n0 eft bcm in same handsif thev had ip their aflara would have been much sodl drou f ble conclusion t ai i i id on the tan e ihe petition was then laj i t ti t rrtvl of hie knrki cant from china 0y the n r i n v sterling from canton wevj of lle w terofthat place to the lfij ish some items of intelligence b teresting and important under il 1r j lu placed the memorial from masters at canton to the praying tor the adoption o measure for the rejrulatih course between the english u 8uch n footing as is demanded b be n e t i j friy oi the lormcr una and the interest and nblf ik t after setting forth tcr itish residents and ship- iue of great britain vigorous and derisive of commercial inter he dignity of their nivernm y j exactions to winch thev the vexation insults and e have been aubjeci the meni p fi7p- ointment of i commissi or envoy auhonzed o demand ample reparatiojt j n and u i ced bv lord napier from initiating conduct expeneno the governor orkwewnjj pnt in- guageaddresaed to hi alfc bn ft emanating from the local a and for the m- nil offered 0 he english in b p of war on board of which w4lh remuneration to his n uatained by them in con3 ofhe t0 s the trade all this to be m b wa f prelimi nary and to be demanded h tttii frwosv iwiv ft his disposition as a rneananf enforcement a ship of the une two frigates and three or four armed vessels of lijrht draught and an armed steamer all fully maimed after obtaining this reparation c the memorialists pray for the adoption of such measures a shall secure them from future grievance and tend to life cxieriftionand security of the trade there can be no doubt that with such a force as is recommended in the memorial the envoy would have no difficulty in extorting from the chinese whatever he might think proper to demand and it is high time that some order should be taken with them for the quelling nf their absurd and provoking airs of superiority to all the world their preten sions have too long been acquiesced in the me morial is signed by ninetyone persons thirtyfive of whom are british residents in china twentynine commanders of british s np9 and twentyfive ml british merchants supercargoes sic think there can belittle doubt that the british transm we government wjll take some decided action upon the subject of this memorial and if so the result will probably be free trade to all the ports of the chinese empire from the advantages of which it is not very likely that we shall be excluded from bahaaooes wthave received a file of the barbadian to the 26th f march from which we make the following extracts reserving others for our nexc publication tie legislature of the island of st vincent met on ihf 1st of march and has passed a bill laying a tax of in per cent on all import this would press hard ipon the merchants and a petition numerously and rspectably signed was about to be presented agaiut the same in iniigua the legislature have passed several suhjijliary laws calculated to preserve the peace and impne the character of the now free peasantry at grenada the long agitated claim advanced by that colony for the lestitution of foreign duties which upon the faith and under the guarantee of an act of parliament had been imposed and levied under an implied plea of benefit and relief to the colony but retained from il under an assumed au thority from the commissioners of the revenue had been so far adjusted that under the tonnage act lately assented to a sum in specie amounting to up wards of fourteen thousand pounds was paid into the public treasury of that island ten thousand of which waa to be placed in british funds and the re siduein the hands of the treasurer to meet theexi- gencies of the colony president lockhart administering the government of dominica is severely handled in the papers for in dulging his old prejudices against the colored class in not inviting to a medical conference on the alarm of cholera agentlemanof color dr caravanna who had been regularlybred to the medical profession nnd had lately arrived there from that seat of learning and science edinburgh complainto were also made that the black population were not summoned on ju ries the papers suy things arc too bad a fdiarp letter is also addressed to the honorable thomas bel member of the board of council of that colony who though elevated to that honorable hoard and one of the judges of the colony is still a clerk in a mercantile ftorc the dointnicians per haps are not aware that the venerable mr adams late president of the united states is notwithstand ing his former elevated station now only a member of congress a letivr dated sr thomas jamaica on the 16th february states that every thing was quiet at thai place and th it the crops would be got off in prettv good time a house belonging to the philadelphia estate had been humed and a woman had been committed tn jail supposed to be the incendiary a private in the militia ntjainaica named pea- can who had for eight years avoided all attempts to coerce htm in duty had been tried by a court mar tial and sentenced to pay 50 and he imprisoned twentyeight days in attempting to secure him he knocked down an officer and another after giving him several warnings to desist from his conduct shot ivncan through the heart at the grand caynnas there was much distur bance in consequence of two of the west indian re giments being about to be brought to trial in that island for their lives without legal arraignment or proper e idencc in consequence of which the iovcr- m ship race horse nor of jamaica had ordered ii thither to protect the peace his majestys stenmer spitfire arrived at barba- docs on the 17th march in 8 days from jamaica and 3 from st thomas having been about sixteen dnya the barbadians think the rapidity of steam travelling is astonishing there had been an maurreetion at para but of what nature or extent the papers do not inform us the amount from m at tin i tie confirm thwe ofa qucuce of prior reports all was quiet at trinidad there had been a collision at tobago between general darling and the lieut governor growing out of drafts for money illegally inide by the latter who insisted he had the lawful power to draw it had been settled by thedecimon of mr sharpe at torney general hostilities in taipou itappeara that a civil war is raging in tripoli and that tle capital was in vested by the revoltcrs who were throwing bomb shells into the city but owing to the inefficiency nf their bombardiers as well as the badness ofthc am munition the damage done was not great the chief part of tht ahelu falling upon ihe ramparts some injury had however been sustained by the houses and among others the residence of the french con sul had been injured by the bombardment the pacha saoi ali although acknowledged by the sul- tas washy no means in an enviable situation not only bad he to oppose the insurgents but to provi sion for the town which was impossible by land and difficult by sea as the mescluotcs chased every eu ropean vessel attempting to enter the port a tuscan vessel had been seized by them while at anchor under the custle of the pacha the crew made prisoners and the vessels destroyed after the cargo had been carried away the crew had how ever been subsequently released upon the applica- tinn of the french consul the coast of the mes- chiotes was blockaded by two tripolitun ships but these were entirely insufficient to protect the vessels coming with provisions or necessaries to ihe town the european vessels of war on the station preser ved a strict neutrality the quantity of grain in tripoli was large but there was a great want of ox en and thany other essential necessaries enti in ihat feeling their it ftppniifc of appo an oft spttth of mr mackentu on ihe bui for constituting the ltgtsuuitt concit covrt of apptals mr mackkkue fait highly gratified that hu hoo friend dr mnrrison had brought forward his motion it ww called for by the act of the legislative council thcimolven who not content with llio power which ihey already poes come to thii houio and i k for more during the whole of ihij ses sion we have refrained from complaining of the composition of that body and now ihey very modestly coma nnd ask tliie parliament which they have trifled with iu labors by their acta rendered useless orwose than useless they come and ask us to gita them more powers to constitute them a court of appeals to suit the purpose of a fevr interested indivj duals thoy are at present a legislative body and umy now wish to b constituted a judicial one in answer to this the motion m vojr hands merely sots forth the simplu but certain fiw ftp my m iwnflm fa w awpw iby tt a mwl- ilviirav teo with such powers let us examine what are the require ments of this act i they would wih tose tonsiitoed a court alsof writs nf error in all rases ovrr 100 cxrlu costs or if it relates to the taking of any annual oi other rent customarv or other duty fuc or any such like he uiand of a general and public nature affecting futuie rights of what nature or amount soever the same may bu and it is also provided that on coitain daya during the silting nftlie legislature the council are to eiamine into the errors assign ed and may call upon the judges lo give- iheir reasone for their judgment and to state the law the appeal to this body however by the provisions of hi law are not rob final but an appeal may be made to his- majesty in council shonld proper and sufficient security be given loa tribunal 4000 miles il where i would ask would be the possibility ofjustlro nn der such a system as hat now proposed the man ofinfiu enco and wealth might citry a case front the kings bench to to the legislative council and from thence tu the king in council but the party whose means were but small would find that he had been not only deprived of justice but tlinl he wa a ruined man in cases however under 300 it is pro vided that judgment shall be carried into effect if the panics ehouldfivea good and sufficient bond it has been argued that it would be better to transfer it from the etcutivo who now are llie court of appeal lit thia province what is the executive council but a mere shadow tlio mere paltiy screen of a corrupt government tho sjrem mockery of a resemblance to the british constitution yes thoy aro a few officehold ers a mere tbrmalily placed there to lake a share othe odium ofihe iniquitous measures which an atbitnry military gover nor may be guilty ofthe man who is ihe prime mover of all that i done is a military officer accustomed to the strict disci pline of the camp and who must be totally unfitted lor to di rect and manage ihe affairs of a free people sent out here as ihey are in the evening of life when their habits arc formcd when thoy ar tenacious of their prejudices the governor certainly is required in one instance to take the ad vice of he evecuiive council by the provisions of particular laws but even there lie is not bound to abide by it but the change proposed by this hill from the executive to the legis alive council wnuld be merely nominal as the members of the other it would be a mere delusion and one which lie was noldisposed to concur in the establishment of such at eourt might indeed flatter our vanity or pamper our pride but such considerations never could have weight in this mou how lung have i liatened and how indignantly have i ft when i have heard the sycophantir minions of government in sult this house by uuming them that they mibt pass partien to trili fait w m4ajtf 4uw a mail but paj use- acacrel and ia there a member in this house who would give aiich a body more dower to a body who have no one interest in common with the honest inhabitants of this youne province another argument in fivorof this coirt has been that the chief justice has not the privilege of voting yet they will admit that he is the sole guiding spirit there end may make use of all his powers of sophistry and persuasion lu influ ence their decisaions but even now hi- as speaker of that body has ohly a casting vnt and sir were we to pass this bill we would be recognizing the appointment of judges to seats in the legislative council which lam well aware this house is not prepared todo it is also provided that if they do not come lo a decision upon the case before them it may be renewed at ihe next ensuing session yes renewed before a quorum of five persons 1 is there any similarity be tween the members of that body and a judge who is paid a high salary that he may not necessarily be connected in busi ness transactions between man and man and who is eipetcd to stnnd aloof from ibe people thai his judgment may not be biassed none whatever all are well aware that the mem bers of the legislative council arcbinkirs merchants and officeholders whoare concerned in business transactions with ihe people and might in all probability be called upon to de cide cases in which they were personally concerned and arc these the men to whom ynu would trust the power of rever sing the decision of juries would they be above suspicion t it was not very probable and should you give them ihi sower the next step would be to constitute them a court of mpeachinent for il you say by passing m bill they arc ft pro per body to bo constituted a court of appeals you would not be able to bring forward any plausible objection to giving them further powers and is there an hon member in this house who would have the slightest confidence in tliem as such a eonrt am well aware there is none they as a lcgialiiiv body stand in ihe way of the improvement of the province the happiness of the people and the ends of justice they are a dead weight upon the energies of ih people 011 a 5tumb- ling block lo popular opinion measures loudlv called for by ihe almost unanimous voice of iho whole inhabitants of the province go to the cmintil to be heard of no more we have laboured here incessantly in iho business of the counirv from ln in the morning till iwelvc at night and where are the fruits ofthose labours gone to the legislative council the edu cation of tho province has been by them thrown back for years and the youth of ihc country allowed to grow up in ig- tiufance their mental powers unimproved and neglected the clergy reserve bill passed throuch this house almost by an iinanimu vole both of whigs and lories went lo the le- fiislativocounciland ihey have given it he cobycthcy mkd ihc honesi expwetations ofthc province by some tin coining resolution where is the jirv dill i gone to ihe le gislative council from whence it will never return has not in intestate emate bill been tomahawked by tho sattelitc of jonn beverly hobinsun for the fifteenth time and the bill jj debt has como back from thai i zmss i m ab3lrd poons that if a man owes ess than 100 he is lobe imprisoned for three months but if f llc mm bo fcorated for one year i and this a the body who wish to be constituted a court of appeal i he hoped the honest manly independenco ofthia houso would treat such a proposition with merited contempt lha llaring r ajflt which waa psw inrough this house for the convenience of ihe people has gone to ihe legislative council but when did they over caro for inn people and ih hill has been thrown under ihc table v hare is iho quakera lulierbill t cjnnn to ilia legialative council i- lion gallant swied ovcrtn soa it again i too thnmontont it live cvtinril was delivered imo iho fd th king college amanlment hn ha gme to the ugislatlrs conned to he htttri of no morel i ihfl t tltttti a 1tawfi ititl c ro lrgijj in a tame submission tn the opinion of oav e hon james wu rhierbilt csonntotht legislative il wharo is ihr dill entitled an act to piomote etliica- tnne to ihe legislative council and if tho hon and colonel mr clmhrdrjij who brought it forward ex- ever to sea it again he is much mistaken t the ballot iho moment it was delivered into the hands of the speaker of the uishiivo cimncil was delivered hintf ppjlttttm bill tin council who never yet had one feeling it c the fanner and jou neednot foar it will 9 return t hungflntlemart noticed a number ofolhcr bills asked f urn people and ihrown out by the couitcil i hwt is aito eiamine how many bills had been thrown out hi legislative council since tha year 1829 and i found there had been one hundred and fjuj bilu of a oubfir general nature siselihiva of private billt y sir 0 dred nnd fiftyfiiur bill- passed by the fhsr branch of the tistature rejected by tll haughty lor4suf upper canada now ask you 10 constitute them a court of appeals give such a power to that body who treated the despavh lord gndericli hj majcatye mioisur with covum the moment they discovered that ihc patch were not ronsonant with their vanished and thy made no scruple to treat ilia majetvt prcniativc with marked insult i hut of course wa cu constitute them h couil of appeaul the lord clujnchtj enland has been referred to mu argumenl in faver 0 mvmem pray wlw ft annual judge 1 i believe not sii what was the cundikct ufihu leislaiive council wii gard lo the dill nppmnting cmnraimitfieni to treat with fca misaioners from the lowtar province they repeatedly ii out the bill and mocked us by talftni us ihey were ambaj dura and mutthercrort he appointed by the kings r scnlative and lrf ulu ii ic passed tlm bill there vim have been a fit belter understanding between tlie tvo jti ces than there now extt and in what rminner did f with regard to ihc timber tride thev cluii wild ly grasp to the revenue raided from that tiade touie wuhesof therernsio1ativea of the mouse andiht lems of the people what was the evidence of two me of the legislative council t i will here relate what took place on the passage of tn noxious bill debited by sii iercrine maillands govern in upper canada some years ago the legislative c were almost musrtinioui azainttt making ihe lemporary act maturely permanent and the hon j aims k ibv the hon ii dunrj and chief justice powell opposed the pasting eftl bill for a whole week they argued and spoke against th hill and at length arrived th evermemorable dsyforinl nal passing- the legislative council met every miaberal herin to ids opinion and il was certain the measure wotf be negatived put the enemies of ihc constitution prevail upon the pious ir pcre muitland ihat he would be dab god an acceptable service if he would oblige those mnw dependent upon the government fr their yearly subsuteo to change tfiaif conduct and vote in favoi ofthc vcrv measat ulfalft which they had been spcakiu arpuing and votiat for a week bekr according to ihc evidence oflbl hon ble william dukson the business of the legislative conal was suspended ftir hours while his excellency and thexeo tive council consulted about the expediency of intimidata certain members ersat the aacrificof their own whilrth by was sitting in the council chamber by the side of ihe hos wm dickson with all the imaginary importance of as mov pendent lawgiver a fiwtagt was delivered to trie former gen tlcman statinp thit secretary hillicr wished to vn is obeyed he returned not with his former countenance ba inin with pleasure and ttrnilifijj ovei the honeit discharjeaf his on ios bjt with a fire marked with chagrin he waaet dently much confused and agitated ilia svmpathisin frianl next lo him inquired whai wn the matter the bumble peerrt plied m 1 must vote firihe hill and when me same enquiry waa made ofthe lte chief justice powell he aaerwercd i must vote for it n i have received a new tight upon lb subject within the last ten minutes the hon john il dues though ifieood heillb wtsrifk and could not attend the coaa cil and the hod- john mctiil walked through the rain n sr ih liniirffta rfieritl ihav he t- t sick and could not altend the house that day when oa measure watcarricd and the house adjourned ihe hon th dickson said to the hon james hahy this is unaccoainj ble conduct in answer to which the unhappy man put hi hand upon his heflrt and said m my children my chddrvnl eicpressinr his regret at the necessity which drove him to ahandonmentof ihe course ho had pursued in answer in question wlielhef tte same influence was eiertcd on oiheras casions tho boo mr dickson says i firmly believe il know that the hon john ii donnas well a myself and tbs hoo thomas clnrk entered our protest on the journals anuat the bill entitled an act tu rnike pcrmmeni and extend llie pa vision now in force or the establishment and regulation a common schools throughout this province arid tor granting his majestv a further sum id monev to promote and encouna education within the him bin bis mr dunns namek since been era sal and the erasure appenr on the journals i have alo reason to bcliive that the chief justice lovdl wm untluhf ifltunrrd on a similar occasion such is the tait mony of the hon mr dickton corroborated by tha bos thomas clark and shall a imdy so influenced shall persons who fro their accountability in the kvcruiive for their tlices they hou though nol for their scau as councillor he considered independent of tm eiccotive and plaed iu the council as in dependent lcpislitorst who arc the persons who coinposs that body and generally attend its delibcraiionsl we lurs chief jumice uobinson as speaker oltht ilmin who is ta resented by his friends and parhzans is beiui in effect the le gislative council thci there is mr crookshinks apeniionar doctor strndiaml an archdeacon of the church of knhudj who was told in the despatch of lord indcrich thai peihan it would he better to retire a man who has received immense ums from the revenues ofthc country giants of land and a multiplicity of ottice aiid bishop m i rnil a cidcvant hbt ral iud buliop of the roman catholic church convened la the side of lory utn by a pension of jg0o a year mr well ictveuiive coiuieillor borser of kings college ac ac- mr cameron provincial secretary with deputies paid lea the duties of his othee a innn who hiirnclf stated that he haa never made a speech in his life who nicraly votes when ail vote is wanted is a very independent personage to milfl judge of a court of appeal peter kfhinnr a commtssioeer of crown land reserve coruinisioncr klmsley who has indeed been kirkcl into a sort of independence and mr mc- h 1 1 i t an inspector of licences an exciseman i who arsi hoard of a peer rf knglind an inspector of whnkev stills ajaj yo tt wtfhiuaw yceatlielf of ihe tfifc logy between the legislative council and he house uflxinli the bonotable gcnlloman here commented upon the salaries the connection uilh the executive and its influence ov th members of that body which no doubt he believed had ciw been eicrcised and asked if these porsonswereso eonstitjtat astoheafitand proper court of appeals would iberbi aborc suspicion t would thoy ever command roupqrtl tntn u not an ho member in this house who in his own mind bf lieves thoy would command cither the respect or the coo dence of the people in this province what was the tangntp of mr stanley the aristocratic stanley with regard to this ho dy in 129 wheo he was uotramelled with oftve and w m his mind was cxpicssed freely and without bias he savs how ill that council performed thcii duty the papers be fore the house suthciently prove the membvrii of die lcfiilt tive council on woty occasion enrolled themselves on the sidcof the govefmrnt and opposed themselves lo ibe peo ple they neither mpcrfwd tle people on one side nor impst led the executive n the other but while they enabled tbt one to maintain a vaf against dm other they stood as a sort of a mark between boib and served but to keep up acontiousd system of jarring nnd contention between the overnmentaoi the people this council then is the root ol all the crib which have taken place in the administration ufihe colonial tor the hiit ten or fificcnyears and l- is that colonial insli lotion which above all others wants alteration and mi- sion docs heconiidcr them an independent body no he called them but a mere pnmpous impotent screen and iir roebuck the mrmberfbr bath says of ihem they area few mischief- making old men the most contemptible of all cot- tcmpliblc conlrivflnccs the legislative council in lower canada are a much more liberal body than our house of lordst when they cidressed their opinions when they nttomp led to eiprcss themselves with the least independence thay were treated by the thei colonial sccretaiy with eon tempt here the hon gentleman read extracts from stanley despatch th hon and learned memler for ihe city of toronto who 1 do not now sec in his place made some verj curious remarks he would not throw out the bill altogether for that he said would be uncourteousj he would rather ja into committee- at this hie period of die session for the porposa of form inn a court of appeals but sir did thai body ever krctcnd to treat this house either with courtesy or respect n ihey have not and the hon gentleman is well aware of ihc fact he savs too that if the chief justice were not in the council he would vote for this bill he had belter inserts clause to that eltecl but si r what would they bo without that persona in the council whyair if we may beliefs tha hon genthmn from hamilton he is the head soul an4 body of tho council and by taking him from them they would become a perfect nullity but i would never consent to tha passage of this bill under any circumstances and the ho gentleman from lmark mr morris is also opposed to ihoit- solntiun ho loo would o into committee ai this hour for tbt purpose of framing a court of appeals at the close of as session when he was well aware that it would be impossible fur lo do so i am perfectly aware what was the object of lb hon gentleman ho wishes togivo the question the fjnbye the casicit manner possible but i would be perfectly willioi that he should himself form a committee flif that purpose anj ho prepared to prce ni to this house a bill for that purpose t the neil session the hon and learned solicitor general ifl ihe course of hi remarks praised tho legislative courcil an asked ifthev are not more independent than any house of as sembly t the truth of that assertion will bo ascertained by th vote lo be civen his night at the close oflha war tho lcgislaiiv councillors whs managed ihe whol of tin husiness and were no doubt a vary independent branch ofihe constitution hul in consequence an assumption on the part of thai hotly in the session of lclo to amend money lull the rupidy bill was hist but tha llyun tit assembly uddrroed the pruiee keent upon iho suhjeol wih marrh ihlh unanimoosly as follow thr inttrlvf me sitid diippiouition of ibe lcjismin i i