HON, MR. MACKAY ON = Pace rion. be ------ ol -------- PROVINCIAL FINANCES 8 ah Colonization Policy for scarcely realize the irrita lustration of the not seers tions by municipalities, himself that he OLEAR-CUT AND CONVINCING DEFICIT OF $553,363.2 | = | sidents, whom en: penury arives from our public schools to the shop and cuch like places, that it has no obligation whatever and owes them nothing whatever. the line substantial aid is given to the high school student and univer- sity student, and nome fo the lad whose parents possibly cannot afford to send him {> school--even to the bh school stage. In other words we he's the sons of the wealthier decline to give any assistance what. ever to the poorer lad. : Germany perhaps, furnishes an il- splendid results arising from a well considered and fully developed technical and indus trial system of education, Here, our continuation classes are conducted purely along the old scholastic lines; there, the continuation class is prac tically an ind continuation class. Beginning with the comtinua- tion class, the state never loses sight of the practical side of life.. The question of technieal and industrial education is so closely allied with that of trade and commerce that one can readily understand why the em- pire as a whole pays so much atten. tion to this matter. In Germany the schools are, roagh- ly speaking, supported as follows: 23 per cent. of the cost is paid by tuition ees ; 49 pér cent, by grants and dona. employers of rh All alone labor, and from other y sane explanation o sources; while the empire as a whole soles the trustees is | ®utributes about 28 per cent. It is informatioy | # matter of common knowledge that great surplus do in every village, cvery town and city, (teachers over in England, and thal in this province a larger number of y import them. This, Sir, it | the more ambitious of our young men advice to parents, especial | And women have for years been en- the poorer class, whose sons and | deavoring to get some general knowl. ters ractically aia op the Government and the debarred | ele of the teaching pro | vnderkie their life vocations the centralization | schools scicotific principles that throug correspondence. These women have been of young men and } | forced to leave our public and separ- own young mes from enteri teach Fagen git 1 | bie is interesting burlesque. i Yura that guileles xtremely innocent honorable inmmbet for South i 4 3 i HF 3 gf g iaree i i 2 £ g £ iif i ite i i of educational affair: particularly of any ring upon the welfare of schools . Technical Education. a time and oft have T dis is question on the floor ol House and clsewhere. For rea , stated 1 do mot purpose attention of the House for a moment on this question, 'main merits of the case there no justification whatever for i at delay in Adopting 1 swee! system of techni. industrial and the. make the school book ged F536] ate schools at an early age, and hav. ing commeneead life's - battle, realize to sugges! | the necessity for a better equipment, and the résult is that sign econ- these schools, such correspondence schools to any great begefit and tuey drop tha course and pay their large fees very unsubstantial returns. It has every year roximately $1,000,000 to these IRL i schools, situ- atrd south of the line. If this esti- mate -is_at all appro true, pad 1 Sitnipib 18. aod it is supported by teachers interested in i 1 training, it shows 1a absolute demand on the of these young men and women for technical industrial train- ing. Assuming, Bir, for the sake of argument, that the amount of money thus sent out annually is even only $500,000, and placing the of the industrial schools same basis as now exisis Germany, namely, that the students should pay 23 per cent. it will be readily seen that there is now going forth from: the provinces an amount of money that will justify the annual expendi. Sure in all of $2004, The tremen. us amount money practically wasted by these ambitious young men and women all over the is another strong srgument favor of immediate action on the of this Government. There have been no 'delay. We, on this side of the House contended last Pe that | o this Government should pointed a commission composed competent educationi to not only asceriain the facts w Ppro- vince, but also to by way inter viewing boards of » of trade, municipal councils, and such like bodies, to have condbeted a regular educational propaganda in system of indus- the agreement the people province will save S000; the orable member for West puts it at $750,000; the member for West raises Himit, and makes it a clear million. How beautifully. and i ¥ grows with each calculation! only in Toronto, among i here; but also in every town, and every other ci Province of Ontario, every hat a tremendous advan n gives to one - departmental store in this city, ge detriment every retail trader in the Province Ontario. The : Eaton' Company is dra » 232 i Li Fit, 5 £ I | ih & whatever £4 ¥ i Esk honorable. s% ith ! #9iine / the copyright; the province pa committee fo and make Readers; all plates and electros are paid for by the provinoe: the type is actually sft up, and then all this is handed over to the Eaton Company, and they are asked to run the Read. ers off. And the people are deceived and hum with the statement that 49. is the whole cost of the Readers. Reciprocity. Now, Bir, I take up the question, which the Honorable the Provincial Treasurer introduced very naively into this debate, technically justify. ing its introduction om account of its alleged effect on' the Temiscaming and Northern Ontario Railway. » work. Without discussing the correctness or incorrecthess of principal reason given, let me say at the outset that 1 do not propese to give a silent vote on this question. The honorable member for West Toronto justifies the discussion' of reciprocity by this House on the ground that it affects the ple of Ontario, and therefore we have a right to discuss it. By parity of reasoning, and because education, and all the laws and regu. latiosts in conneetion with it in this provinee, affsct all members at Ot tawa who come from this province, they then will be justified in placing on the order paper at Ottawa a reso-_ lution with reference to our mode schools or our normal schools, or some other such question. I fancy, Sir, if some Liberal member at Otta- wa, from Ontario, were to attempt to do this, not only would the occupants of the treasury benches here, but the member for West Toronto would join them in a preity violent de. nunciation of any such .Ottawa poli- tician, and would raise a treme ery about th: fact that the provin- cial field was being invaded. I re gret, Sir, the growing tendemey in this House awcng Conservatives in their desire to have a fling at the Government at Ottawa. What must the necessary rosu't of such a praec- tice be, if Conservatives of this House unnecessarily go out of their way to find fault with the Liberals at Otta- wa, and similarly the Liberals here were to do the same with reference to Conservative members at Ottawa? The necessary result will be to lower the tone of debate in this House, and to lower the dignity and standing of this Legislature. Anyone can readily sée that the public under such cir- cumstances would be justified in con. cluding, and could come to no other eapelaane an tat the members of this Legislature were mere henchmen or shouters for the' politicians at Ot- tawa, and thus this Legislature would bold, in: public opinion, a decidedly inferior position. I have no such views, Bir, of the rights and duties of a Provincial Legislature. We act, , Bir, by the same sovereign right that politicians at Ottawa do; we derive our powers and responsibilities from same source, and we ought not in any way to lower or degrade our y position is this, ii has an absolute right to discuss any that affects the Dominion, it is doubtful procedure for us, I care not what the 'procedent may be, as a Legislature to deal with the question Trade and Commerce, which by British North matter of pure party politics, T wel. come the discussion of this subject pon the floor of this House, though e wisdom of it. I am bound iat the Honorable the realized that he doubtful ground, n estion reci- Ontario and operated introducing the Honorable the. Pro- i ressurer was more careful judicious than certain other gentlemen who have The Treaty of 1856.08. T am afraid, Sir, that the Honorable Provincial Treasurer i he he at great length 'argue that the 1 to 1868 was to the old provinces of Honor. asks i § £ ¥ i 5 # : F i fl ] * 5 8 | THE DAILY BRITISH. WHIG, WEDNESDAY, MARCH hus bécome of his loyalty 0 the nciples Sdvossied by it John . Maodenald, Sir Leon illey, Sir Thompson, Sir Charles Tupper and others? Shades of the great de- , Bow your influence has waned with our ial Treasurer! The honorable gentleman. in the extreme position he has taken, turns down the whole record of the Conservative attempt rene ocity Treaty. In 1871, the late Sir John A. Macdon- ald and his British colleagues who negotiated the Washington treaty, endeavored to secure a renewal of the Reciprocity Treaty, but ineffectually. In 1872, the United States National Board of Trade petitioned Congress for renewal of reciprocity, and the then ive Government at Ot- tawa deel its readiness to -accept the same. In i874, the Hon. George Brown was sent DY the then Liberal Government to Washington, and in sompan with Sir E. 17 Spton, Brit. ish Am actually secu an agreement to-4 treaty, which was not," however, squently ratified by the United 4 pate. In 1879, the Customs Tariff nreparod by the then Conservative Government at Ottawa inangurating the Nationa! Policy made a standing offer for Free Trade or reduced rates og a long list of Unite od States te if the Unit- States would fet similarly with reference fo. Cangdian products. Hon. Mr. Tilley, Minister of Finance, on March 14th, 1879 (see Hansard 1879, vol. 1, p. 415) refers to "a reso- Tution that will be laid on the table containing a pr ition to this effect' that as to named which are the natural products of the country, including lumber, if the United States take off the duty in part or in whole we are prepared to meet them with equal concessions. The Government believe in a Reciprocity Tariff." Bir Charles Tupper in the same vear as reported on page 464, vol. 1, Hansard, said: "My honorable friend, the Fin- ance Minister, also proposes to in- sort in the bill the statement that, when the Americans shall reduce their tariff on these we os Tw io, he rg ond i wipe ou : es , wo will admit their pro- ducig free. At no distant date we shall enjoy all the advantages which under the Reciprocity we possessed eo rl ar Hits us believe that there were no advan- ge lie treaty to a _as to fisheries, ete, and proposed to discuss tariff arrangements looking to- wards dhe. old arrangement, with no practical Later, Sir, such a arranged look at the i and 1888 he will find that they con- tain + i offers for reciprocal trade in a long list of articles. In 1891 the Canadian Ministers were sent to act with the British Ambassa- dor in a consultation with the United States Ministers with a view to ob- taining better reciprocal trade rela- tions, and, Sir, so important did the late Sir John A. M nald consider the subject that he made it a pretext for an appeal to the country in order that he might have a mandate from the people, which he received, and upon which he acted in an atiempt to secure freér trade relations. In 1892 the theft Conservative Government continued their negotiations. The Can- adian Customs Tarif Act of 1394 con- tains & standing proposal, in several of its clauses, to entirély remit or to reduce duties on a Jong list of articles produced by the United States, pro- vided similar concessions are made out of power, they placed this stand- ing offer upon the OC ian Sta tutes. Their course throughout was istently consistent, and consistent rsistent in an attempt fo get freer trade reiatidns, and yet the Honor. able Provincial Treasurer takes the ition that even the old Reciprocity 2 was ag injury to Canada. 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