DAY, JUNEG, 1914 De. | treated as if he.were a brute; he , becuusé ne said he should be treated with some human- up. mouice that it must not | ity, and 1 say that the evidence tak- continued. Just uuagime it, Many of by that commission shows thay / men who were treated in this | these convicts have not been treated mapuer were oi the ibsane kind. | like beings; they have been viuaed + Bryan gave evidence belore j treated like dogs or worse. 'Talk the ssion im regard to (ubbing {about reformation! How, in' the ~~ : He says ne saw con. (name of Heaven, can you reform a victs with legs strapped together and | man when all . the time he is. sub- to the sides put in- jected to this kind of treatment ! {What must be his feelings ? 14 is (the guards) would : lift impossible to reform him under these ut them in the water? conditions, ) . P 5 nl be "I make another charge inst the deputy, and which indicates his ab- Solute unfitness for the position he occupies. - He admitted in his vi dence that it was up to him t = point the convicts to their ions in the prison, and also the guards to their positions. I went through 'that institution in company with the present warden, Colonel Irvine. We visited the wvarious shops--the car- penter shop, the paint he hlacksmith shop--and, came around to pile, and saw sixty convicts sitting there breaMng stone. They say there : is nothing else for them to do, that there is no place else to put them. Perhaps some recognition must be giv- en to that statement; but the depity grlen, if he had the instincts of hu- manity and the common Sense of a five-year-old young 'one, would 'not would not place a boy convict of four- teen or fifteen years on the stone pile, and keep him there for three or four years cracking stone. If there was not another charge to level against the deputy warden, the one fact that | he would take boys fourteen and fif- teen years old, place them beside old repeaters, and keep them on the stone pile year after year, is sufficient to in- dicate that the man is not fit for the wt Tone. Dress Making Lesrons. -------------- Prepared Especially For This Newspaper by Pictorial Review hand helpless. He algo swore that) the deputy warden attempted to get him removed from office fourteen years ago on the ground of physical unfitness; but that wan is still a guard 'in the institution. © Another matter to which Bryan referred was that the deputy placed two insane convicts in the ward with Bryan alone one night about midnight, locked the doors and 1éft him there with these two men. About half an hour later the deputy sent a man to find out whether he had succeeded in placing those men in their cells or [whit had happened. These , state- ments mdy seem very trivial, but 1 maintain that they indicate a lack of judgment on the part of the deputy warden which should not be passed over "| the. doctor could ive that order. They say in the report, in referring | **% et & e to the evidence of Grier, at page 23: to Either one of the three *--A. The gyidence of Grier is got eor-| "0% or roborated by the prison records. The » ----s She evidence. of adother un, records show that Bishop attempted th ey cork who helped in tle to hang himself on two occasions; on "Q F--Page. h i July 9, 1898, and March 22, 1899.1, , yb wrinomt put in the Ou the former occasion he was cut [(\5 © give a cold bath ?--A. down by Guard Davis; on the lat-| *%* ter, by Guard Marsh. Grier does aot appear in either case. There is no record of any other. attempt at suicide by Bishop. If any occurred it should be in the record. ' Grier says he 'cut down' Bishop in 1908. "Q. They thems up and A--Yes.; "Q. Would they go right down be- low the surface 7--A. They would just go down .and up again. below the surface ?--A. on. "Q. Would their heads go under the water ¥--A. Yes, their heads would go in the water, "Q. And picked up ?--A. Picked up * Q And She ou § ck "J A n and picked wu AT Re » " Who would give this order 7--A, By authorities. "Q Who would that be--A. Fither (Continued From Friday.) the wares She aig to) ither This refers to the deputy warden. 4 But they suppressed the fact that Mc- Quade swore that the deputy warden called him a damned fool in the pres- ence of another guard and a convict, and O'Leary admits it. This is a direct violation of the regulations. Also he sgys that the deputy warden put up the cO¥vict Connors to trap him, and that the deputy warden re- fused to let him off to move. He had to get up at two o'clock in the morn- ing, work all day at moving, and came to the penitentiary to go on night duty at 6.30 p.m. That may seem a small thing, but that is ex- actly where the discrimination and { Ashby the Tailor ollice did he hold ?--A. Acting keeper, 1 think, at the time. "Q. Why was the tubbing done ?-- A. He insulted another officer proof of value, corrective and tions of &'~mach, liver, eys and Th first quick relief and per- ent improvement follows petty persecution came in. This man was refused a reasonable request, while others had such requests grant- ed repeatedly. That is one of the reasons that led to a great deal of trouble. In summarizing Aikin's evidence, the report says; '"He complains of the deputy war- 'den spying on him." Some Ommissions But the report leaves out the fact that the deputy warden in his man- ner of speaking in the presence of the guards acted contrary to regula- tions. He told Aikins that Inspector Stewart had charged him with lying down on duty, and Inspector Stewart stated that the deputy warden had lied. The deputy warden gets him out of bed at ten o'clock at night to to go to the prison to go on duty, and after he gets there he tells him to go home again. He was reprim- anded for late winding when helping a sick convict. The convict had been taken sick in the night, had fallen out of his cot and was vomiting on The records show that Bishop died of tuberculosis in 1904. I invite any hon. gentleman to re- fer to Grier's statement in the type- written evidence, it only occupies about one-half or two pages, and he will find that there is not a word to bear out the statement made by the commissioners in their report. Grier states most emphatically that he stopped to cut this man Bishop down when Bishop was attempting to com- mit suicide, and that he 'was late in winding his clock in consequence of stopping for this purpose. The dep- uty warden reprimanded him for be- ing late in winding his clock. He told the reason he was late but the deputy warden said: Let him hang; you wind your clock, that is the first thing to do; 'et him hang, but wind your clock. The report says that this statement stands alone. The Statement does not - stand alone. Marsh also swears to having a some- what similar experience with the same convict. Marsh however, re- memberihg the reprimand that Grier had received from the deputy did go and wind his clock first - and then attended to the convict who was | "Q. How did you ish this man ?--A. Filled the with water and put him into it. "Q. And held him down A. Yes. "Q. In the cold water 2--A. Yes. "Dr. Etherington--Amn insane tient I "By Mr. Downey : "Q. An insane patient, who guilty of insulting one of the cers, and who was subjected to for punishment for the offence : is right Yes. _- . "br. Etherington: It is important to know whether insane patients are punished or not. : "By . Downey : "Q. How long did you keep him in the cold bath ?--A. I could not tell you how long they kept him in. They kept him till_he gave up, till he said he was sorry for what he had done; that is all I know. "By , Mr. Stewart : "Q. Was he held under the water-- A. Yes. "Q. Was A. No, he he was. "Q. Was tub pa- was offi- that he there half an hour ?-- would have been dead if he pushed down in the roceed to pun- | this, position he occupies. If you go through that institution and look at the faces of 'those convicts on that stone pile, you will see an expression that is almost impossible to conceive. Mr. Bickerdike : Is it not a fact that in some of our penitentiaries men are chained down with logging chains in the dark du ns ? Mr. Edwards : I think it is. It was brought out in the evidence that at Kingston they were sentenced to the dungeon and shackled to the gate. Mr. Bickerdike : 1 have more refer- ence to St. Yincent de Paul. Charge of Unfitness. Mr. Edwards: I want to give you another instance of the absolute unfit- ness of this man, O'Leary, for the position which he occupies. Fancy, on that stone pile, sixty men break- ing stone month after month and year after year, a pail of water, and all drinking out of one cup and from one pail. Not only that, but it was brought out in the evidence that men with syphilitic sores in their mouths were in the same gangs with these | boys; and all drinking out of the same pail and 'out of the same cup. 1 sub- A new skirt of French design made with high waist-line and round or pointed train. It looks well in any of the smart, soft materials of the season. + The. birthday-mark of the newest skirts "is the elevated drapery. The French models show that the fullness is being centered about the hips to great- er extent than ever, leaving the knees quite bare of pleats, puffs, etc. 'The peg-top cascade is the very last word in separate skirts. The model shown here is suitable to development in any of. the fashionable materials, which does not mean that it must be expensive, for it is smart even in the simple cotton crepes. : IL requires about 4% Inches of 44- inch material for the skirt, and the pat- tern sfould be cut on an open width of the goods. If a train is used, pro- vision is made for both the round and pointed effects. The first in actual construction. is to form the cascade. This is done by bring the notches at upper end of extension together and stitching with ® pictorial Revie™r pattern No. 5632. Sizes 21, 22, 24, 28, 28, 30.and 32 inches waist. 15¢, the floor. This guard stopped to at- water.--A. He was. mit that you would not put a dis- tic i hit i if J F 5 Bal iit HEH ; & ss tend to the wants of the convict, lift- ed him up and put him on the bed, and consequently was a few minutes late in winding, for which he was re- primanded by the deputy warden. The deputy warden said: If he dies you are not responsible. Yet these commissioners say they can find no evidence of any cruelty or inhuman- ity on the part of the deputy warden. This is all left out of the report and they present what purports to be a summary of the evidence of this man in the few words I have given. They also ledve out his statement that the deputy warden ordered him to stay out on the platform in a driving storm of hail and sleet, though the trenches are provided for the express purpose of protecting the guards in time of storm. Many other state- ments are made which are left out entirely.-, They are summarized -in the evidence of Davis by the state- ments that his complaints were child- ish, yet in his evidence Davis makes some very serious charges against the deputy. The -samesthing is true in regard to Johnston. 1 will not take up time with going over all these. But for the evidence of Pat- terson they present this summary: He blames the deputy warden for his dismissal but cannot establish it. But they leave out the fact that Patterson swore that the deputy war- den gave false testimony. His state- ment will be found on page 983. And he asserts that he and others who gave evidence in a former investiga- tion were discharged. In regard to ligledew, they summarize . his evi- «once in these words: "Kept a note-book; w, against the deputy war ed re favoritism." Now. Ingledew swears that the deputy warden recommended that he should be finad $5 because, having found a box containing some scissors and other things like that in the ward back of one of the cells, he took it to the head office. The dep- uty warden complained about his doing it, but if he had not taken, it to the head office the charge would have been made against him of ne- || glect of duty. He did what he con- to be his duty, and the deputy warden recommended that he should be fined $5 for it. In regard to Bannister, they say that they sum- marize his evidence in these words: Complained of being reprimanded before guards and convicts. - Let us see if that is a fair sum- pl of Bannister's evidence. On rch 15, 1911, Bannister was work- ing in the deputy warden's house. © was sent down to a ward to take chargé of a gang of convicts when the thermomster was ten below zero. He asked for the us shanty pro- tection which is giver gnards having charge of men cutside. This was re- fused him by the deputy warden. In consequence of that Bannister's feet Were severely frozen and he felt so disgusted and indignant with his treatment that he sent in his resigna- tion and left the service. This is, let out of the report entirely. They a leave out of the report the com- plaint of Banuieter to the effect that he received no remuneration as choir. master in the Protestant chapel while the guard who acted.in the same ca- pacity in the Reman Catholic chapel receives $50 a year for his services besides other. perquisites. "They at-) tempt to summarize the evidence of ling witness en; not ask- hanging himself' and they had quite a time in bringing the 'convict, to. What remark did the deputy make on that occasion ? e¢ exonerated Marsh and told him he did right; that the Proper thing. for him to do was to wind his clock: first. At the time Grier was reprimanded by the de- Puty, warden in the way I have it ed he appealed to Hughes who was then head keeper and Hughes told him tnat in any case where he found the convict's life in danger the pro- per thing for him to do was to save that life. That statement is a cor- roboration, of Grier's statement, and yet the commissioners endeavored in their report to represent this as nev- er having occurred. There is abso- lutely mothing in Grier's evidence. to support the siatements that they made. Grier did not say what year it was he cut the prisoner down, he does not "give the year at all; in fact he did not remember the year, but he did remember the occufrence and be remembered the statement the de- puty warden had made in regard to that matter. They say this state ment stands alone. 1 say it does oot stand alone. 1 have already re- ferred to what took place with re gard to Aikin when he was late in winding the clock owing to his giv- ing attention to a sick convict. On that ocoasion the deputy said: Wind your clock; if he dies you are not re- sponsible. I mention these facts to show the minister and to this bouse what I think it does clearly show, that this deputy w is a nan unfitted for the position he ogoupies. He bas not that semse of humanity which 8 man should have who oceu- pies that important position. They say there is nothing in the evidence to indicate any cruelty of disposition on the of the deputy. 1 have cited ee ogee of Grier, Marsh, Aikins and Bannister. Bannister said said that he was refused the . shanty which was ordinarily given to guards on duly in exposed places. have cited the hosing of convicts which the commissioners say is cruel and inhwnan and which the evidenae shows clearly was performed by 0'- Leary on many occasions. : Then, there is tha matter of bing. The commissioners say that this tubbing is inhuman. Six or eight swore to tubbing having been done. Did not the ty warden know that that was going on? No. If he did not know that that was going on, 1 ask'this committee, is a man of that kind a fit and proper to the responsible . posi- tion he holds ? Sis low is this tubbing | carried on? There are regulations for this punishment. The conviet's clothe es are taken off, his fget are strap- ped together, his arms are strapped to his sides, and he is immersed in a tub of water which may be ice cold or just moderately cold, depending on the seasou of the year. Many of them were tubbed in the months of January" and Fetugey, Th hese in Wp 4 have ¥ by WF stripped as 3 a the tub- shoved ddivn under the (water guards, 'and when they came up they shoved thir down again. As one guard tastified, they were shoyed down till. the bubbles came to the surface. The evidence given before that commission proves, conclusively that that was done in that instjtu- tion, and I say that theideputy war- den more than any other man ° was responsible for its being done. Bear in mind that 'the (deputy warden plac- "the ghards he aid not know it was go- { deputy warden or the doctor. '"Q. Was he smothéring when he came up A. He was. "Q- Did you ever see blood com- ing out of the mouths and noses of convicts treated in that way ?--A. Not out of him. "Q. Did you like that treatment ?-- A. I would not want it myself. I could read similar testimony by guards who took part in this (ub- bing, which went on_to a consider able extent in this institution, and which. was performed, as some of the guards stated, at the order of the The doctor himself says that when he heard of it he issued an order against. that sort of thing, and it is only fair to }im to accept his state ment. Now 'ot us look at the evi- dence of Douglas Stewart: in record fo Losing, given on pages; 17 and Qs "Q. You find efficient (than More effective. { "Q. What is it that makes it so effective. with these conviets A. It takes the defiance out of them. "Q How--A. i you got the you would kuow. "Q. What is, it 7--A. | suppose is the impact of the hose against the body, kmocks the wind out of them: "Q. Aud it seems to succeed where nothing else will.--A. Yes, it never failed yet. _'"Q. To beat an incorrigible convict into submission ?--A. Yes. And further om : "Q Is that the most severe ment 2--A. No, 1 think more Severe. "Q. You mean right 2--A. Yous," When Inspector Stewart was asked what pressure was on the hose, he said it would be 60 lbs. to the inch. The commissioners state that they saw the hose, fot-being used on a convict, but in the hosing cell. They state that when the nozzle was put through the bars the water struck the opposite wall in an almost un- broken stream. A stream of water at that pressure would strike a man a pretty severe blow. ~ Stewart al- so stated in his evidence that the pressure at St. Vincesit de Paul pen- itentiary was 75 lbs. to the inch. 1 Suppose they need a little more force there to make the convicts give in. 1 want to impress this fact upon the committee, that, although hosing is provided in the regulations, those re- gulations were drawn up by the in- spectors. At least, that is my un- derstanding. It is-all right to say that Bir Oliver Mowat, wi ini ter of justice acceded to this. 1 can well understand the inspector; who had' practical control of the penitentiaries, asking the assent of the minister of justice to certain re- gulations. It would not be a mat- ter imto which Sir Oliver Mowat would look very closely, but the in- spector knew from having seem the hose used what effect it would have. My own opinion is that it is eruel an inhuman. © Tubbing is not' rl thorized. by the regulntions....as ian] thom. but tabi has beem cawricd on in that institut ion, and even insine convicts. have been subjected to that treatment. I say that it ds a disgrace to the domin- ion of Ouwnada if we allow this thing i os the future. *. Bickerdike : Hear, hear. It is shame . a ne, Mr. Edwards: T have ho maudlin this (hosing) more the triangle) ¥--A. hose it punish- shoot ng is killing a man out- | sentiment for a convict who has vio- lated the laws Ff society. . He hat to beause they ay. the be punished, but he showld not be eased animal alongside of healthy ones, and yet you put men with the wost loathsome disease vou can im- agine alongside these boys and expect them to grow up to strong and vig orous manhood, A. W. Chisholm : Was that fact known to the officials of the institu- tions ? Mr. Edwards :. Certainly it was known to the officials; il was admit ted in the evidence. Mr. Gaudreau : known of it. Dr. Edwards: Let me give you an- other instance of the way in which this institution has been run. This has been the routine treatment meted out to sick convicts, On Sundays, in order to let the guards go home, the sick convicts were given their break- fast at mine o'clock; their dinner at eleven, and their supper at ene o'clock and they got nothing more to eat un- tl batween eight and nine o'clock on Monday morning: This was the way in which they treated sick conviets. Mr. Lemieux : Supper at one o clock? Mr. Edwards : That is what 1 said. They got their meals at nine, eleven and one and the only part of their meal that they could keep in thei cells was a piece of bread; they were not allowed to retain any of the dishes, 'L'here may have been a dilier- ence of opinion as to whether an in- vestigation of this institution was ne- cessary when I made my charges, but there can now be no two opinions in this country in regard to it being ne- sessary. Mr. Lemieux : 1 would like ny hon- orable friend to repeat that statement They should have 'Th about sick convicts receiving their meals at the hours mentioned. Does he mean to say that they got their meals at nine, eleven and one o'clock, and nothing between that and next day ? Mr. Edwards : That is what I say. They received their breakfast at nine, | their dinner at eleven, and their sup- per at one, and nothing from that time until onday morning between eight and fine o'clock. 3 Mr. Broder : On Sunday only ? Mr. Edwards : On Sunday only. Mr. Kyte: Is the honorable gentle- man referring to the evidence brought out ? Mr. Edwards: I am referring to what is brought out and what ap- pears in the typewritten evidence which T have here. I shall be very glad if any honorable member desires it, to corroborate any statement | make by the evidence, which bears out what I have said. Mr. Devlin : Why does the honorable fentiotmon lay so much blame on the puty warden ? Was not the war den nsible for all these acts? Mr. Edwards: I will answer that | question. Under our system, 'as it. is, now and has been for many years, the wardenships in pénitentiaries have gone as political plums to men, 'no mat which side has been in power. was no consideration given to the man's fitness for the posifion of warden. He got the position of war- den because service he had render- ed to_his party. 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