"Hf PAGES 8-12 YEAR 82, NO, 241 ~ TWO SIDES PRESENTED TOUCHING UNION Rev. E. Scott Gives 2 Waning to Presbyterians Rev. D. M. Ramsay Shows How Mis- interpretations Are Made. Montreal, Oct. 12.--(To the Edi- tor:)--Will you kindly permit a statement to your Presbyterian read: ers of a few of the many things that would be lost to them in the pro- posed new Union Church. The Lost Eldership. The Rule of the Basis of Union for the formation of the so-called 'Session' is as follows: "The mem- bers of the session, other than the minister, shall be chosen by those in full church membership, and shall hold office under regulations to be | passed by the General (Polity, Sec. B. 14.) In this Rule there is neither "eld- Council." er' nor "ordination"; and the omis- | gion is not accidental but intentional, after the fullest consideration by the Union Committee of the three chur ches, It is. true that in another part of the Basis, (Section B. 9 a)--there is a incidental descriptive expression, as follows: "a body of men specially chosen and set apart or ordained for that work, who shall jointly, consti- tute the Session." Even if this latter incidental ex- pression were correct, there is no mention of "glder." The men chosen might be set apart, or they might be ordained. There is nothing definite All is left to the General Council of the proposed new Church. But the word "ordained" has no right to be in that incidental expres- sion; for in the Rule for the formar tion of the "Session" it is not found. This is an instance of the immature, self-contradictory character of the Basis of Unjon. . It is therefore absolutely correct to say that in the Basis of Union the ordained Ruling Elder has nd plage. lutely certain that if this strong Pres- byterian feature could not get into the rules of the Basis, before Union, it would never get into the new Church after Union. Will Presbyterians consent to sur- | render the Scriptural Office of the! ordained ruling Elder; a main pilla all long and glorious history? The Lost Church Of The People. The proposed new Church is to be incorporated, as a great legal organi- zation, giving absolute power of con- trol to the Church Courts. With Pres- byterfans the people are the Church, In the proposed Union, the church courts, the organization, the "'ma- chine", would be the church, with corporate powers. Will Presbyter- ians thus surrender the church of the people? Further, this incorporation, which, on the one hand, would take awxy the rights of the people and vest them in the church courts, would, on the other hand, bring these same church courts, in matters both tem- poral and spiritual, into the sphere of the civil law, and a member of the | church, suspended b ill conduct, could, i that session before the courts, and the session for Lost Riglits In Choosing Ministers Presbyterians have now the right to extend a cdll at any time, and no church court has authority to in- Further, it is just as abso-| of Presbyterian Church through | er | Power. | Unity for Unity is of the Spirit, not of name or form; and Christians of he chose, bring | | perhaps involve them in heavy costa. | {Church Union: An Opportunity and i 'The Baily British EE ---- KINGSTON, ONTARIO, MONDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1915 - -- _-- ES and charges, "but that same commit- tee is the some judge of how far it should or will comply with these | wishes. From that Settlement Com- mittee there is no appeal. Even to the Conference (Synod) that ap- points it, it reports "for information only." Will Presbyterians vote to surren- | der their rights, and submit once more to the "patronage" and "intru- | sion'. and overlordship, which their fathers fought till victory was won? { And especially in such a year as this, when our Empire, with her Allies, is contending against overlordship, and for the world's freedom? y Lost Safeguards Of Scripture Truth. | Alinost all organizations, secular or sacred; social, political or relig- ious; that have any basis of agree- ment, are pledged to that basis. It represents what they stand for. One of the few lonely exceptions is the proposed new Union Church, The doctrine of the basis of Unidn com- tains much of Scripture Truth, but no minister is pledge to accent that basis as his confession of scripture teaching, or pledged to adhere to it in his own teaching. It is not the creed of the church. It is now what the church stands for of serip- ture truth. There was, in an earlier stage of A ---- "A ARRY Hoje. the Union negotiations such a pledge for ministers at ordination, just as there is now in our own church; but it was taken away, and in the propos- ed new church a minister might teach any error; and cut and carve the Word of God in any fashion, and do ft in the name of the church, claiming it to be his view of the scriptures, and the people would be helpless. The loss in this respect would be more apparent with the passing years, and, as history has re- peatedly shown, would be fatal to the religious life of the church.' Such are & {ew of the losses which would come to Presbyterians, the presbytery is that of deciding whether a call shall -be sustained, or again whether a minister shall be allowed to give up his charge--usu- ally a purely formal affair. The in- duction of ministers is to continue to be a presbyterial function. The Montreal document gives a fearsome version of other features of: the Basis of Union, particularly the settlement committee, as well as of she, Proceedings of the general . . ¢ | assembly upon the union question: Where Are The Gains? But the reader will aready have The only three gains, claimed or]] needful it is to test the promised, 'are Unity, oi wna ity of its representations. Let There caf ho gain in| us therefore pass to a couple of {ll ustrations of Dr. McLeod's methods. Prof. Kilpatrick, of the union booklet quotes Principil Lindsay's tian Unity, just as 'well as those of remark that the unity of the church the same church. ; eqn, neve be adequately represent- There is no economic gain, for in fed" 34% gutward polity," ' and goes the foreign field, none of the negot- 2 to say that such unity "is an ab- jating churches have missions in the solute necessity, If the church is to same territory; while in the home! gq) eflectivey its great calling." field wise and Christian co-operation 'Evidently he is not here speaking of can prevent and has already prevent. Ferganic unign, 'but of a most funda- ed, overlapping and waste, and has {ental "unity." But Dr McLeod, by almost wholly eliminated: it in. tSiiahe:'use 'uf "Suptateons, make oi) 4 ell different churches can live in Chris- West, , y that "outward uniformity is an As to Power, the moment a church [3 te necegsity of the churéh is seeks to sway the affairs of men by to fulfil its great calling." the size of its organization, rather . than by its meral and spiritual in- (0 paras Sotelo lmproper ta, Jo fluence, all history that it means a Kilpatri ve rahe yd doom for the state and spirituallte Dr. patrick's mouth at this death of the chureh. point, event if the idea were a favor --E. SCOTT. [ite one of his, bat the fact is that : no unionist ever adopts the words or advocates the idea, Again, President Falconer writes that "no church has a right to claim that ita order of government and life alone has apostolic sanction.' But Dr, M¢Leod quotes him as say- ing that "no church has a right to claim for its order of government Church Union. Toronto, Oct, 8.--(Te tor): As editor of the the Bdi- booklet, a Duty, 1 have recently had put in- to my hands two pamphlets issued by Presbyterian opponents of union, upon which 1 ask your permission to trude pen them a minister they 0, make some meat. i In the proposed Union there is One of these pamphlets appears to only one time of the year when they | be the first of a series published in can extend a call, viz, at the annual | Montreal under the title of The Pres- meeting of the Settlement Commit- | byterian Advocate. The other is and life apostolic sanction." 1t is especially to be noticed that he drops the word "alone" out of the presi- dent's statement, and thus entirely changes the meaning of - the sen- tence. Having done this, he pro- tee. a body of men absolute powers, | mostly at a distance from the indivi dual congregation. If that call should not succeed, or if the Settlement Committee declines to allow it, the congregation must wait for a year, until the next an- nual meeting of the Settlement Com- | mittee, before they can give another call, and they must take, for the year, such supply as may be sent tc them. 4 Further,.the Settlement Commit tse has power, not only to decline t¢ appoint the minister called, but tc appoint any miniéter they may choose, to any congregation. The words are these--"The right of ap- peintment shall' rest with the Settle ment Comuhittes," True, the Settlement Committee "shall comply as far as pcssible with the expressed wishes i ; ii 3 i ing fii AES H i H J? | i f f i : i : i | i i i : f i 8 if Bt i i ih { g i i 8 if Js g i £ | g = '. bi 2 : 37h yp i | aE of ministers statement paragraph 9, of the sec- written b¥'Rev. Dr. McLeod, of Bar- | rie, as $A brief reply to the njne ad- | vocates of the desertion of our { church for a new, denomination," and | it really endeavors to reply to the | writers of the booklet of which 1 | have the honor.to be the editor. I do not propose to: make any elab- | orate answer to these publications. ter is--verity made | My chief purpose in this letter is to by opponents gements_ dis- {urge readers of the anti-unionist lit- n, above ali those which relate he of Union. = Apply this prin~ ceds to argue upon the basis which he has laid for himself. Let Dr. McLeod's readers then set his. criticisins of the union booklet in the light of the original articles, {and his Sifts, wil do the union cause nothing but good. i The conclusion of the whole mat- erature to check the assertions there- {in made by. reference to the Basis of ple not only to the literat: h | Union, or to the union book ét al Sake have already AbLaeure Wi ich | ready referred to. How important g 10 that which they may publisk [this practice is, I wish to show by la few illustrations. 'htm It ig boa jase ta ealt aliontion | The Montreal pamphlet affirms --D. M. RAMSAY. tbat cn the Mupeged new session of eee ee. R y | the Basis of Union, there is no men- | ton of ordination, no provision for CUT BULGARIAN ARMIES IN TWO it." (See p. 4.) Com with this re y, of Direct Attack Upon Sofla Said To Be {tn on be policy in the Basia of lay Pham fata g { Union. There provision is made Bucharest, Oct. 18.--The milita | "the oversight of the spiritual inter- critic of the Universal tn ao boon | ests of the charge of the minister (or expresses 'belief that the British ministers) and a body of men speci- yng Frenth troops landed at Salonika ally chosen and set apart or or- 80 to the aid of the Serbians | dained for that work, wha shall at Nish, is 250 miles from { Jointly constitute the session." It thelr base, but will make a direct at. {shoud be added that. the duties of tack on Sofia from the Serbian fron. | {the new session correspond very tier, thus tutting Bulgaria in two! 'and also ng the Austro-Ger- | presbytery becomes "a shadow of {freer sad" But in 'of the sectién on polity, the gives a long list of important duti {which are to be discharged vresbytery. Not only are ¢ {largely the same as our nowy discharge, but they 1 Rogation, a member | un Brothers of De la "THE SYMPATHETIC PEDESTRIANS " ARMY VS. QUEEN'S PLAY The Opening Game of Foot- ball at oo, ar QTE LIVELY GAME THE STARS OF (ONTARIO FOOT BALL ON THE GRIDIRON, "Jack" Williams and Hazlett Had a Booting Competition -- Ketchum And Box Were Also In Service-- Quite a Spectacular Game--Iit Was Much Enjoyed By Spectators. 7 fo Ater watching the rugby game on turday afternoon people can rea- lize the kind of men Canada is senil- ing tg the front. They were suc- cessful in defeating the Queen's Uni- versity aggregation by a seore of '5 to 0 and the game was one of the most spectactular tirat has ever been seen onthe Athletic Field, the scene of 80 many intercollegiate ets, The game fras decidedly free from coarse work both sides playing the sphere too much to bother with that kind of play. Another good feature, from a spectator's stand, point, was the number of bucks made. Queen's three times in suc. cession - carried the bal over half the léngth of the field in a continu- ous series" of bucks gaining yards. Were it ot for the won: ul play- ing ability. of "Jack™ Williams for the "Army" team, as they were gen- erally called, the ball would yu doubt ably have gone gver for a Lo but "Jack" saved the situation by kicks that sent the ball far into Queen's territory. The game was deci sided both teams combining in a way that made individual spectactular plays few and far between. The weather was ideal, the sun shining brightly; a large crowd saw the game. The bleachers were fill- with students and soldiers and thoy shouted words of encourage ment that must bave inspired the blayers. 2 : The game started at three o'clock the Army team w the toss. Williams kicked close to the Queen's goal but the was recovered and Queen's first n IRE edly not ome} three times in succession. Williams secured the ball and kicked it three- quarters of the length of the field but Box recovered it and by a splen- did run brought it to the twenty-five yard ine again. In a scrimmage Mallard was hurt and was replaced by Blinn, a former Queen's scudeet who B rcw with No. 5.F.C.C.E. at tiv camp, % At this silage of the game the most of the kicking was done, Williams and Hazlett doing the work. Wil- liains kicked within ten yards of ihe FQueen's "goal but Hazlel \ ¢ and returned to the sol) di 1 five yar] line. At half-time the score stood 4 100 in the soldiers' favor. Queen's kept the ball in the sol diers" territory until Williams made a nice rna. Williams kicked to Box who returned 'gaining twenty yards before being downed. Wright, at this stage, made a very brilliant play by carrying the ball for twenty« live yards and tothe extreme rigiit of the field before being downed 'The ball remained for a number of minutes within a few yards of the soldiers' goal line but the checking Was so revere that no score wah made. The crowd was breathless with excitement and the play at this Stage was as interesting as has ever been seen. A few minutes after play was rés- umed - in the last' quarter the sol- diers were able to take the ball out of danger. Ketcheson was hurt and was replaced by Smith, another for- mer Queen's player, who is now with the Engineers, 3 Hazlett caught the ball kicked by the soldiers and made a nice rum until downed by Reid in a very pref ty tackle. * Williams kicked the ball behind the line again after a few nutes of play but it was rescued Hazlett, who made a brilliant rush.' Williams secured the ball again from the scrimmage, but this time Haslett was unable to get clear and forced to rougd making the Ath point for the soldiers . The remainder of the gamb able to register owing to the desped. ate checking on the part of the| Fkhaki-clad. The line-up was: = Soldiers halves, centre," was | 80 far they have been unable to Queen's 'worked hard but was un- 4 na. Whig | 12 PACES London, Oct. 18.--Recruiting is to be taken entirely out of the hands of the military authorities and en- trusted exclusively to civilian organ- izations. This, in a nutshell, is the scheme by which the Barl of Derby, director of recruiting for the army, hopes to secure a sufficient number of voluntary enlistments to render recourse to conscription unnecessary, He described the new system at a private conférence with the Parlia- mentary Reeruiting Committee and the joint labor recruithiy' hoard this afternoon. "The changes that I propose mak- ing," said Lord Derby, "have. net been necessitated by any Shortcom- ings on the part of the recruiting staff, but by the exigencies of the present situation whidk, fo my mind, require entirely new methods' of dealing with the subject. In the Past recruits have been found by the military authorities, assisted by ci- villians, I propose to make civilians responsible for bringing raw mater- ial in the shape of recruits to the mi- Htary authorities for them to enlist, clothe, equip and train. "This can only be rendered pos- sible if some thoroughly representa. tive civilians body be willing to make itself responsible for the work, and my most grateful thanks is due to the two bodies--the Parliament- ary Recruiting Committee and the NOTHING BUT VECTORY. "No Other FEnding or Struggle," Says I hy New: York, Otf, 18.--In measured words, carefully chosen and slowly Spoken so that all his interviewers fight record the Lord Reading us- serted that the Hh Rk nation would accept no other ending of the pres- ent struggle in Europe than victory. "Whatever happens," he sald, "'no- thing ean change the attitude of Great Britain and her Allies in this war. For them there can be only end. Until that end is reached ean be Mo end to. the struggle for us. "The people of Great Britain are prepared to make any sacrifice to ttain that end. Nothing that can be done will be omitted." Lord Reading's statement was made on the deck of the steamer a few moments before she cast & from her dock. "As I leave the United States", he said, "I am full of gratitude to all with 'whom 1 havé been in contact. Everywhere, their expressions of sympathy, have been with our nation in her struggle. In departing, I wish to express my gratitude through the press." . ----e lf DVINSK MUST BE TAKEN, But Army Has Been Forced To De- fensive. Petrograd, via London, Oot. 18.-- With the exception of Dvinsk, on the northern end of the Russian bat- tle front, where fierce artillery bat- ties continue, the Germans "appear to be on the defensive along the en- tire eastern front: Russian military officials say they have obtained information that the erman armies have been ordered to take Dvinsk at any cost. German at- tacks at this point have been made, with the utmost impetuosity under cover of a terrific artillery fire, but break down the Russian defense. The German losses are reported to have been extremely heavy. Mission Work In China. . Toronto, Oct. 18~-The General Mission Board of the Methodist Church has decided to release $31,- 000 of its funds, tied up since the beginning of the war, thus permitt- a continuance of building opera. scrimmage, Fraser scrimmage Herne MeCormiek Armstrong, inside wings K Lyons Donaldson Nicholson Cruse Prof. Macdonald reteree and Cadet 18; offi. cers wounded in action have hither absence months of absence befol red trom. rejoining his. Ottawa, Oct. 18---Harry Lol White Cunningham, Hémilton, i 08 in China, Where a 31.00 Fehon] being built at Cheng-Tu and ot! educational institutions in various other A proposal. to join with the Methodist opal church of the United States for work in Chi- fa is under advisement. Rev. Dr. Chown will visit C in 1917 it conditions improve, en a class of Chinese probationers will be ordain- ed. Despite the objections on fin- ancial grounds of J. W. H. Fadger, and Dr. a superin~ ewlfound- board decided to ap tendent of onpotnt land : i Allies Finance Greece. Milan, Oct! 18.--The Greek Gax- ernment is eco- ENTIRELY OUT "OF MILITARY HANDS Civilian Bodies Take Over Recruiting Work in Britain---Lord Derby Announces How the Organization Is To Be Operated. WE have a decisive victory, there | : change, which King Cons Rr . ECOND SECTION Joint Labor Recruiting Committee-- who have made themselves jointly responsible." The much-discussed "pink form' will be used in canvassing, but in conformity with instructions prepar- ed, which, Lord Derby declared, would result in the canvassing being "conducted with the utmost tact and discretion." a All the existing recruiting com- mittees will be utilized and the var- ious municipal and civil authorities will be asked to co-operate. Every eligible man will receive a letter sign ed by Lord Derby, stating briefly the situation which makes an increase in the army necessary, in order, as ex- explained by Lord Derby, "that he may have a direct appeal, and he un- able to say in the future that he was not called upon to join." At a recruiting meeting in Vice- regal Lodge at Dublin, which was attended by Baron Wimborne, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and John Red- mond, the Nationalist leader, it was decided thdt tie Lord Lieutenant should form a department for re. cruiting for Ireland, and he himself take the position of director, as chief organizer, being appointed to work in co-operation with the military. it was stated. that the number of Irish recruits was 81,000 exclusive of those enlisted in England and Scotland, and the Irish - reservists who joined on mobilization, A A rr ms GREECE'S INTENTIONS. It Is Imperative She Should Take A Position, KING CONSTANTINE OF GREECE London, Oct. 18.--Thé Times in an editorial says: "Almost every hour counts, yet the Allies are still without any clear or definite indication of the inten- tions of Greece. It is imperative that they should learn withont idle lay if she Is with them or Sgainst them. "The hour is too vital for finesse or 'equivocation, as it is too vital for procrastination, wy "The English and French forces have been sent to Salonika vita- tion of the late Prime had of Greece. They are there to support the cause of Greece's ally. . The ; tine has since thought fit to make in the per- son of his ehief advisor, cannot af- fect these facts. ~1f the Greek Gov- ernment contemplates the abandon ment of the policy on the strength of which we were induced to dispatch our ships and soldiers to a Greek port, we have the right to éxact a clear, unambiguous announcement of this tergiversation." . Rev. €. H. BuffMad, rector, St, James Church, Guelph, has been ap- inted chaplain of the 20th Depot 3 ttery, now at Carling Heights, Lon on. ¢ ri At Vancouver, Robeft 'right, an Englishman, was sent 10 three '| months' imprisonment for seditious uttérances. af their blood is thin or insufficient, are not really sick and hesitate 10 com- plain, but they lack that ambition and vivacity which is their birthright, Th ey | donotneed drugs---but do need the tonic Emulsion and nourishment in Scott's i free from wines or opi |. If mother or. a Sl EAE ee