LATEST LocAL SPORTING THE DAILY BRITISH WHIG GENERAL It will be thirty years the 17th of November since Queen's University team lost the senior Canadian rugby championship to Ottawa College team directed by Rev. Father M. J. Fallon, now the lord bishop of Lon- don, Ont. As Bishop Fallon was a native son of Kingston there was at feast a little satisfaction that the Limestone City had some share in the victory. Ottawa College, how- ever, would not have. defeated Queen's had the game been played on Nov. 22nd, 1894, as Queen's re- quested, for three of the Tricolor players--McRae, Cranston and Web- ster (the latter being Charles R. Webster, a local practising lawyer) were in bad condition owing to in- juries. However, the Canadian lea- gue executive would not hear to the change of date proposed by Queen's, dnd so the game was played on the Rosedale grounds, Toronto, Ottawa won 8 to 7. It was an- other of those one-point wins that decide championships, McRae, Queen's great kicker, Itmped all through the game, Cranston's injury to his shoulder made the Tricolor serimmage weak, leaving the bulk of the pushing to George Kennedy and "Billy" Baker, "Jack" Elliott played in Charlie Webster's place and put up a great game, Edward Gleeson was centre half of the Ot- tawa team and in the next few years became one of Canada's greatest half backs. Guy Curtis was Queen's captain and left half back. The teams were: Ottawa College--Full back, Be- janger; halves, Shea, Gleeson, Mur- phy; quarter, Leveque; scrimmage, ONE VIEW. But Supposing the Play Had Been ! Reversed? A writer to the Toronto Star says: Dear Sir: After witnessing the brilliant display of Canadian rugby played between Queen's and Varsity last Saturday I came away rather convinced that something is wrong with the method of scoring in Cama- dian rugby. Take this game for example. Un- questionably on the day's play Var- sity were entitled to win, but through an unfortunate error on the part of Mills, Queen's scored a touch- down which was converted, amount ing to six points. To my mind this was an unearned touchdown and should be scored as such. In this case, Leadley sends up a punt for sixty yards and the recelv- er muffs the ball, which is recovered RUGBY Junior Intercollegiate Eastern Finals LOYOLA vs. RM.C. Il George Richardson Memorial Stadium SATURDAY, NOV. 15 © 2.30 pm. JUST THIRTY YEARS AGO! When Ottawa College Defeated Queen's 8 to 7 for the Dominion Rugby Championship. d Boucher, Clancy, McCredie; wings, Lee, O'Brien, James, Prudhomme, Foley, McDougall, Vincent. Queen's -- Full "back, Wilson; halves, Curtis, Farrell, McRae; quarter, Fox; scrimmage, Cranston, Kennedy, Baker; wings, Elliott, Horsey, Ross, Moffatt, Johnston, Rayside, McCammon. Of the Queen's team who played in that memorable game Dr. A. E. Ross is Kingston's member in the House of Commons; Guy Curtis is still living in Delta; "Chick" McRae is somewhere in the United States; Charles B. Fox is an electrical engi- neer in East St. Louis, Ill; J. G. Cranston {is a medical doctor in Arnprior; W. C. Baker is a profes- sor of physics in Queen's University; H. H. Horsey spends much of his time In Kingston, although now of Ottawa; J. Stewart Rayside, of Montreal, has just been added to the directorate of the Canadian Na- tional Railways; T. H. Farrell, bro- ther of James M. Farrell, Kingston, is an eye, ear, throat and nose spec- falist in Utica, N.Y.; "Wicky"" Wil- son is Kingston's market clerk; "Jack" Elliott is a member of the firm of Elliott Bros.; W. Moffatt is a physician in Utica, N.Y.; George Kennedy and W. McCammon have passed away, Kennedy was for sev- eral years with Ottawa Rough Rid- ers. McCammon, who was an elec- triclan, was drowned off the steam- er St. Lawrence near Clayton years ago. "Wicky"" Wilson was the greatest full back player Canada produced, according to the Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal press. His playing was always génsational. by a Queen's player, This gain was not made through clever running, passing, bucking on the part of the Queen's team. True, Queen's were fast enough to get down under the punt and quick enough to grab the loose ball and are entitled to some reward. I think a just reward in this case would be to give Queen's possession half the distance of the total gain from the point of kicker to the point of where the ball became dead. In the event of the play resulting in a touchdown (like last Saturday) I think three points would be ample. In this way the defending team would not be unjustly penalized through the muff of an individual and the attacking team would re- celve just reward A. G. M. Note!--We wonder if the same opinion would have been expressed if Varsity hed won the game in such a play. Circle-Six Entered. There {8s much interest around the ¢ity in the Circle-Six hockey team, junior O.H.A. runners-up. last year, who have entered the junior series of the 8.P.A. race this year. They should make a good showing in that and it will round them out properly for the regular schedule. The new Jock Harty Arena should revive hoc- key greatly in Kingston. Stilt Going Ahead. Ray Marchand's U.S.M.A. team has won another soccer match, de- feating the fast Colgate eleven 2 to 1 this week. That makes four vic- tories and a tie in five games for Ray's team with only three more games on the schedule, As a hockey star, Ray is certainly some soccer man as well. See Tweddell's $27 overcoats. nm mt cm oa ------ ---- \D WINNING Earl Sande, internationally famed TO-DAY This morning Kingston Collegiate and Peterboro engaged in their sec- ond match in the Interscholastic semifinals at the Richardson BSta- dium. Peterboro won the first game with a tidy margin but the locals expected to overcome the lead. The score has been settled by now but at the time of going to press was not decided. This afternoon R.M.C. and Loyola juniors meet in the second game of the junior finals of the third divis- fon of the C.ILR.F.U, Cadets go into the game three points down, having lost 11-8 at Montreal on Wednes- day. They should be able to over- come that lead and, if so, will play Varsity Juniors In the finals. Argos and Ottawa meet in To- ronto to battle out for second place in the Imterprovincial. It will be one of those games, probably a good one, where teams put up a splendid exhibition after the title is decided. Balmy Beach will play Hamiltén Rowing Club at Hamilton but the Beaches already have the title so there is little interest beyond local in that. Much interest attaches to the final senfor Intercollegiate fixture at Montreal when Varsity meet McGill. Here again the title has been decided but in spite of that the teams, with "their old rivalry, will put up a good jockey, is making the last quarter jof the health handicap in fine time. | | Suffering & broken leg and other) {severe injuries at Saratoga Track | {last season the game turfer is re-| |cuperating at his Jamaica (N.Y.) | home and says he'll be in the saddle | next season. FALL SPORT OPENS FOR THIS FELLOW, Toronto Telegram's Paid, Hater" Looses His Wrath on Queen's. Now that Argos and two Varem teams have been given the gate, the | Toronto Telegram's "Hymn of Hate" composer, under the heading '"Snap- shots on Sport," is going strong. This writer hates two things-- Queen's and Frank Shaughnessy. Here is one of the latest "hymns! Queen's have decided that they need the money and will play their Canadian semi-final game with Ti- gers at the Stadium. But they're a rather naive bunch these Church Unionists, They calmly intimate that they're not playing in the na- tional finals for the love of the sport or even the joy of winning. They just need the gate and if it is big enough to put them on easy street, they'll never do it again, From which it may be gathered that whether the one-time Calvinists are now Unionists or Methodists they still remain distinctly Scotch. And with this statement before it the good old Globe heads the de- spatch "Queen's Last Year in the National Series." Well, it probably is, though not for the reason given in the despatch beneath the heading. For Leadley is in his last year In the Kingston school. And with the breaking 'up of the Batstone-Lead- ley combination championships and Queen's should bit each other a long farewell, Queen's have been one of the luckiest If not one of the best teams that ever came to the front in Can- adian foothall. Two years ago they won from Argos just because Dins- more dropped a ball when Conacher shoved him through the lime. Last year they ran into the weakest lot of teams that ever lined up on Cana- dian football fields. Saturday they needed horseshoes hanging all over their corners to pull out a win over the rejuvenated Varsity bunch. Without the famous Batstone-Lead- ley combination they would never have been heard of outside of King- ston, And if Queen's are In financial straits just now it surely is not be- cause of those Canadian finals they affect to despise. These four games in the Canadian finals they have played to date have netted them a neat $8,000. On only one final have they lost money, When they insistea on playing Edmonton in Kingston, the expenses of the Far Westerners ate up the gate and $150 besides. But that was the only time the gate showed a bal- ance onthe wromg side. 'Even Regina at Toronto last year money in some Scotch communities. floats In from the eastern seat of learning. It will be an inspiring against ry they walked away with $1,200 as their share. And $1,200 is a lot of But it is a fine amateur spirit that | battle. Varsity should win but it will be interesting. BOXING NOTES. (By J. A. W.) James Figg (or Fig), the first boxer to hold the heavyweight cham- plonship of the world, was born in Oxfordshire in 1698, and died in 1734. He belonged to the highest class in society, having for his friends men like Hogarth, Dr. John- son, Walpole, Swift and Pope, and also members of the royal family. Figg began boxing in 1718 and be- came recognized champion a year later. In 1727 he fought a rousing battle with a Gravesend pipemaker named Sutton. The fight lasted over an hour and Figg won. Before en- tering the ring Figg was instructor at a School of Arms in fonden. . - » Mike Gibbons is writing a series of articles entitled, "My Eighteen Years In the Ring," for the Phila- delphia Boxing Blade. They all do it sooner or Iater. Even Jim Cor- bett is at it. Jim's articles are be- ing published at the present time im the Saturday Evening Post. - . - Queer how modern fighters like to use fictitious names in the ring. Johnny Dundee Is really Joseph Car- rora, Pancho Villa is Francisco Guil- ledo, Pete Herman is Peter Gulotte, Kid Norfolk is Bill Ward, Kid Lewis is Gershon Mendeloff, Rocky Kansas is Roeco Tozzi and Battling Siki is Lew Phal. . In boxing, thirty is recognized as the age when a man begirs to go down, yet there have been several exceptions to this rule, - Bob Fits immons was 36 when he won the world's heavyweight title from Cor- bett, Jess Willard whipped Jack Johnson at 34, Jack Britton won the welter title from Lewis at 36, Johnny Buff was 33 when he won the bantam crown and Tom Gibbons of St. Paul knocked out Bloomfield, beat Carpentier and stayed fifteen rounds with Dempsey after he had passed the age of thirty. The most noticeable example of a boxer who went down long before he reached thirty is Knockout Brown, who pass- ed his prime before he became 21! Varsity Hockey. Examinations and graduations have opened up many gaps in the ranks of the University of Toronto hockey squad and there will be a great deal of competition for the son will all be absent this year, but one acquisition should prove of great value, that of Clarence Day, former defense star with the Hamlil- ton Tigers. 'Red" Porter will pro- bably team up with Day on the de- fense when the final line-up comes out for the first game. : Joe Sullivan will be back in 'the western teams east. HAR STAYS COMBED, GLOSSY Millions Use It -- Few Cents Buys Jar at Drugstore Even stubborn, unruly or sham- pooed hair stays combed all day in any style you l'ke. "Hair-Groom" is a d'gnified combing cream which gives that natural gloss and well- groomed effect to your hair--that fi- nal touch to good dress both in busi- ness and on social occasions. "Hair- Groom" is greaseless; also helps grow thick, heavy, lustrous hair. Beware of greasy, harmful imitations. Ba RUGBY NOTES. | With the Queen's-Tiger game to be. played in Toronto on the Satur- day following next. Queen City fans will see all the Canadian Union senior [Eastern games, as Balmy Beach will play against the surviv- ors in the final. If the Western champions come after the Grey Cup, the game will also likely be played Toronto. Thus Toronto, with only one championship team gets the classics of the season.--Ottawa Citi- zen. Canadian Nationals were on hand | to see Brockville defeat the Burghs on Monday. Chick Mundell's squad are of the opinion that they will, hold their own with Charlie Lynch's gridders in the first of the home and home games for the Intermedi- ate QR. F.U. honors at Brockville on Saturday---Ottawa Citigen. Only light workouts are being in- dulged in by the Hamilton Tigers this week and such will be the order until Monday next when the team will get down to practice in real earnest. Bert Gibb, Tigers' back- fleld star, will not be allowed to don a uniform this week as Coach Awrey believes the big fellow to be a little "Fine." Cecil Mann is in bed and will remain there for one week at least, Sweeney Davis and Ernie Brod- erick will officiate at the Peterboro C.1. and Kingston C.I. O.R.F.U. In- terscholastic game in Kingston to- day. Down in Kingston someone is try- ing to give the impression that Queen's are 'angels' in bringing The story is that Queen's brought two western teams down and lost money both times. Nothing is further from the truth. Two years ago the C.R.U, wanted to stage the Edmonton- --- NEWS SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1024 TIMELY COMMENTS has made a reputation for itself. Victoria Street. DO YOU REALIZE THAT THE GOOD OLD WHITE PINE IS GETTING SCARCER EVERY DAY Yet, we are still able to supply that same quality which Let us have your order NOW! ALLAN LUMBER CO. 'Phone 1042. COOL NIGHTS Keep the Boys and Girls around the home, and in order to keep them satisfied, buy a few = runswick Records They are good. They have the finest orchestra accompaniment in the world. --BRIGHTEN UP-- your old Records with a few new ones. A Treadgold Sperting Goods Co 88 Princess St., Kingston. "Phone 529 -- -- price right. Over Watts' Flower Store. FOLKS-- Don't forget and see us before you make another Radio purchase. Our line is complete, super-quality and the THE RADIO DEN It will pay you. Just a Little Different a a _-~ ~~ Queen's game in Toronto, but Queen's wanted it in Kingston. They offered Edmonton a guarantee of $4,000. It was accepted and Queen's lost about $200 on the proposition. Last year Regina came east, and after all expenses were paid, includ- ing Regina's expenses, each team took away over $1,200, which would show a profit 'of $1,000 to Queen's on two seasons in games with the west, and not a loss.--Telegram. Leo Flynn says Jack Renault is twice as good as Bill Brennan ever was, Flynn managed Brennan and now handles Renault. PD a Noa, "Buckey" Harris Valuable. How much is "Buck" Harris worth to Washington in a salary way? If there is a more valuable player-manager in baseball's list we don't recall him. Harris is a star second baseman and a star leader. The combination was good enough to win straight through. Tex Rickard says the only fights he gets a real kick out of are those between heavyweights. Freddie Lamprecht, playing full- back for Tulane, is one of the best golfers in the middle west. See Tweddell's $22 overcoats. s in Bach Package and Tin Iai BREA =