he approbation of that jnufe of th euffe vnich had been purfttetm he wat r to avow not preyarctitferere to avow timtthe auefmade the drmttfion and exuncnoi oftbat army the rcatn object of then policy many of them hd fallen in ift field by the bravery and kill with which they had been encountered but after that iignai defeat of the fi ench at my the allfce would ivavebeeajnuly chargeable with their rcfurrcilion if they had not followed up the blow and eciiflgoflied as far as it was poifible the power fo dan gerous eo all still however it was ne- cejtury to be vigilant if the govern- ment of europe were to allow thetnfelve to be lulled into fecoriryby foppofing that the french army had ccafed to exift becaufe v had ceafed to appear oo the parade they would loon witiuf a revival of that fcourgc which had fo long defola- t the world- he had no kffitftcfofl therefore nay he prided himfelf in avow- l tbat it was distinctly declared to ottia xvlii that iftw did not dioblff the french army the allies mull charge themfclvcd with ttot indifpeilbk taflt in order to give effect to this reprefenta tion three hundred thou and men were affembled on the loire with die intention of denouncing the armiftice on a particu lar dav if arrangements were not made by the local authorities of france todil- folve that army the exiftence of which was incomuatible with the general re- pole under ihefe circum fiances he put it to the feelings of every englishman wheth er our further interference was not only natural and juft hut whether it w38 not itnperioufly demanded by the late in which this rvquilition left the king wln1 right had we to call in the king to diftolve what was called the royal army if after having done fo we meant to leave him to their mercy were we nt bond to defend him from them in their difbanded as well as in their collect ed late in their cha rafter cf con tnrs a well a in their character of fol- diers he for one had nver been dif- pofed to depreciate the abilities of bona parte but thccompanifoii of the dan ger arifiig tofocicty from i he talents of that individual and fioin the difpofithu of the french army iffelf was as the conmarrifon between a drop of water and thr lea if the moral or rather immor al principle woven into the coiflitiuion of thr french army had betfl fuiticd t tem of fecwrity for europe with fuch cls a would mark rhis great diftinguifh ing character of their proceedings name- ly that their hoftikty was directed not againft france in a royal fenfe bnt ag ainft france ij a revolutionary fenfe and nftit cifcutially againft france as the cojreg military jacobinism n r did the a lies proceed on this piiuci- lle alone they acted on a veiy broad policy if they had fpoilcd the game they had been playing by mixing it with any ordinary queftion between flate and ftate if inftead of endeavoring to reinebde france in the pale of fecial na- ions they had attempted to degrade her they would hai combined all france igaiuft them inftead of having the great mafo of the people on their fide there were fome people who might have fup- oofed that this was a favorable moment for depriving france of the eucioach- ments which the had made under loui- xlvth and making her return to her d limits 13ut however fpecioos this fuppofition the reafoning on which it was founded appeared to him to be ex tremely fallacious if fiance had grown fince the period alluded to other mates tad alto rifen the power of the brit lh empire for inftancc had increafed fo der the re- much of late years as to rcn exift the confinement of bonaparte ii the place to which he had ben fetjf wa aim- ft an unimportant confidcratrbn for fuch an aimy would not find it difficult to find fome man capiblc of leading i with coinage and ability the fimple quefliou fur the allies to consider was whether meal and civil principle- flmid govern the world or whethei tt fhould be ruled by a military defporifm jntrwea ring i fcif by degree- hit n ail the hates of europe lt th fe who were for unfil ing t an extreme the opinion of popular authority reflect on what this military clcfpitifm had been founded it had grown out of that dare of foetal disorgan ization which modern phlofiiphy and modern vvhiifn tended to produce it had been the hi refuge from the evils of anaahy fortunately the lah- dcf and intemperance by which ft was characterized had prevented it peipetra- tion every effort to that effect ibw- ewr had been made by ita great leader in france under bonaparte every thing- had been render d fubordfnate to the ar my one of the lad acts of bonaparte was to call on the prefects of france to deliver to him defcriptive lifts of the fe dales their property c in their ref- pectire diilrids evidently intending to facujtae then to the loft and rapacity of that army by which operated upon by fo powerful a ftimuius he vainly hoped to maintain himfeif on the throne of france and to carry defolat m into the furroiindiog flates so far was the in- lerferrnce of the allied powers to put down the french army from being un popular in prance that he had never tal ked with a fingle well informed non in that count y who had not fpokn of the tyranny of the military defpotifm as that fcm which it was defratle toefcape fven thofe who had run through the vhole courfe of the revolution denounced the military fyftem as a monllcr in got- ernment which triumihed over the law and which rendernd the ftate a mere in- ftrument for the graulicutron of its detelubu wiftes not only were ftepa t ken by the allies to guard againft the return of this military defpotifm gratefully acknowledged in france but aftrongand very general folicitude was blown that they would take into their protection the civil conftitution of that cuintry a ilcp which according to the utabliihed relation between rations it was impoffibc to take with refpea to the great body of the french nation whatever levity they ought have exhibited with whatever fa cility they might have lent themfelves to different ufurpations it was the anxious defireof the allied powers not to purfue towards them a rdentftil or revengeful pohcy but ifpyfliblcto combnc the fy- own the juction of france lef5 necefliry the power of rufiia alfo had increafed fo much that with every eonfi fence in it- moderate exerciie it rendered impolitic a reduction of that of france and ab ove all nothing could have been more fatal to the policy and object of the great confederacy which was to keep their general piinciple dillinct from any petty ar angement between fiite and hate ha ving embarked with every thhg wife and loyal in france againil a dmger com mon to all europe it would hive been most injurious had they made an indncct advantage of existing circumllances and failed to preferve to france her charac ter as a nation from the king to the meaner peafant in ihe country not a man but would havenniied agatnft them had they purfuedany orherpulicy what the confederates were eipecially charged with was to tranquil ie the world not to carve out the different hates accord ing to their own n tions which altho they might be abflractly right w uld if indulged lead them from that which was their great and important object coming to the confidcratim of the fub- ject with this view nf it various lines of policy offered thcmfclvesfor rhwrn tion there was the courfe of calling j on vance for a feverc contribution of money and tliere wa the courfe of calling on her for an exteniive difmemberment f territory a falfe impreffion was he beheved very prevalent on this part of the question i was fuppofed by fome that would be more wife to have oiade a fubstantial demand on france fji tei- riaftry leaving the french government in poftcffifn of ail their refonrces and it was imagined that of all ccitions a pe cuniary cefiion wa most revoking to the feelings cf the french he could aflnre the houfc that n- thing could beiefs true than ihia propofition vvith the cxceptim of the natural repug nance which all men had to part with their moucv there was hardly any mdif- pofition in fraoce to this meafnre in deed the state of the f rench finances ad mitted it out of the nature of its fit- nation and the profligacy of its conduct had grown this advantage while all the reft of to world were draining their exertions fiance had fcarcely a burden forasfoon as they had created armies they turned them loofc to prey on man kind he believed therefore that france as in a late of greater financial affluenae than any other country in eu rope and more efpecially with refer ence to the two neighboring hates prus- fia and auftria he would take this opportunity of faying that under the exifting circum- tadces of thofe two countries it had not been deemed prudent or wife by the bn- tifh government to prefs the repayment of the imperial loan they really were nor in a late at prefent to make the exertion which that repayment would re quire in the lait two campaigns prus sia had expended 1 200 millions of livrea or fifty million fterling and the ex- penfe of austria hah been still greater in confequence the finances of thofe two countries had been fo reduced that had his majestys government infisted on the payment of the impeual loan they would actually have been unable to have put their armies on the peace establifh- meru and would have been put to other inconveniences which in every point of yicw it was most defirabie that we ihoulrt if poffible prevent them from enduring as to the cefiion of territory by france instead of the contribution of money there was not a man iu the kingdom from the monarch to the lowest individu al who did not entertain for fuch a pro pofition that which blight jflstiy be cal led a national repugnance so abhor rent waa it to the feeling of the whole fieoch people that he really believed it would bt have been ia the power of the allies to perfoade h moft christian ma jetty to accede to ftfch a ftipulation be- fides it ought to b confidcred that un- lefs the demand fo a celtion of territory went far it would be mnch wifer not to make it at all ow fome parts of the multifarious queltums before them there had of courfe been ftrong ditferences of opinion among the allied powers but on that of theceffion of fench territory none they all difavowed the hght of treating france as conquered nation in that refpect or of ilifmembering it with a view to alter its rtiilitary character and refonrces as a nation all tht they held therofelves entitled to confider was the more or lefs the modification of the fro tier bnt not one of the confedera- ied powers imagined that it was within the functions of the confederacy to dil- member france itfelf ii fiiould be con- lidered that what was taken from france muft have been given to fome other na tion there was the two fold danger of taking down one power and of raifiujz up another unlefs a third or half of her territory had been fevered from france no effeir could have been pro duced and did the hoiie calculate on the wounded pride and honor that iuch a dicnembeimeiit would neccflarfly excite where was the englilhman w liv would not fight for any of the ancient pofieffions of mir crown and he muft lay that he fhould not refpect that frenchman who did not feel that the late of his country before the revolution was that in which hi honor was bound up and that he could not allow the mare to be diminifhed without a degradaior worfe than death he therefore begged leave to contend tht in point of juftice no proceeding of diimemberment could lake place and that in point of policy the very nature of tc conteft which was for the eftablifhmenrt of a general princi ple of fecurity rendttd fuch a rep un- wiie and the tall remedy to which en- rope ought to look a a defence againft i he evils that fujfovmded her then- was another princip f action which fliould not pafs unnoticed whatever it wa wife to do at a it was important fhoiild be done not by any particular date but by europ as a while ii was highly imporran that europe in its prefent allied ftat ihottld act as a bo dy and that nothipg foould occur to 1 educe that body to its original element if a fragment only h bern liken from france and if that fagmcnt had been drlvered ovfj to ttitfflrtrf f 8 8 ffltj from local circumdauces ift would hive proved the greatcft advanuage the rnain- tenancc and defence if tle acquifitfon would have neceffarily deyiolved on that fingle power and that at a period of the great en agitation and dilbcuity it was a fundamental maixim of france to be involved in war with iche low conn tties and whenever this waas the cafe the burden always fell upon die fliouldcr of this country we had therefore ta ken cae to feenre the doiininions of the king of the netherlands at much as pof fible againft any attack from france by the precautionary rncalmre however that were adopted there wa every rea foil to hope and believe thatf france wou 1 not make any hoftile aitennpt we had 150000 of the heft troops in the wrld under a man who wa juft y and univer- fally admitted to be the gmatet genirj in tlie world and as france had created 1 lie danger it was bnt ri that he fliould pay the price for vwatciilng over her tranquility on the whole he had good rcafon to believe cht the peace would prove fee u re even thoagn fome hew of hoftilitie might he wade by france in fo long a fpace of the life of man as five years it wm t no naeans have been wife to have ta l line of fortreftes from france an annexed them to the counties to which wer con tiguous such a meafur would have been of no advantage to tr countries it might have been refifted by the french government and might have rreated more danger of a new w- than the lea ving of them in the poftefp n france after the allied troops fh oiilcl be with- drawn it was the gcnc- opinion i france that he never erd more than in extending her territory- r future ftate of europe depended on fejlga be ing permanently fettled r france and they would be fo by no fffering her government to he thrown backwards and foi wards as it had been the allies had preferred the government f the k becaufe it fecmed to oflv nothing that was likely to hake the p of europe it was therefore a dew prpofe of the allies when they concluded the treaty of the 20th of no vnber to do away all cauie gatijcddpt they bound themfelves to rcft tr ftretv with the few exception fpecified in the treaty at the end of fi years but they did not bind themfs to reftoie them to any but the kirks lawful hern and fucceffors fo that if l prefent dy- ualy liould i- any mea fubverted we did not pledge ourfe to the folly and ahlurdityof giving hem up to any pcrfon who might be at the head of the vha rnight take pkeft and judg whe ther it would be neceffary to impofe torn new reftriaions wfc were pledgfd to fupport the king of france but not t fupport any new revolutionary govern ment- he was fatisfied that greater fe- curitiesfor the durability of the peace had been bbtined by the courfe purfuej in the late negociations than could have been obtained if france had been pufhe- into conceffions with a more violent hand if the king had not afcended the throne on the principle that the virtual integrity of france fhoud be preferved he lord caftlereagh would have had the moft fe- rious doubts of the continuance of peace j he felt that in that cafe it would have been mnch endangered bytheirritated fee lings of the french nation but tthile due attention had been paid to this con- fidcration the allies had not failed to ac quire what theythought adequate fecuii- ties for the future repofe of europe thefe he traded it would be the opin ion of the houfe they had obtained when it was recollected that five fortreftes of confiderable local importance had been ceded by france to the king of the ne therlands and that the deftruction of one which wan of fome importance had been indited upon had the arrange rrent made for the future repofe of eu rope lopped here he fhonld have thot it incomplete in his opin on however the other condition w hich had been made combined with thofe to which lie had juft referred would place the balance of power in europe on a better footing than ft had obtained fince the time o fofeph the fecond france wis to nay tothealiie- feven hundred millions of livres out of this fnm three hundred millions was to be expended f r the erec tion of ftrong places to defend the low countiies which would thus be placed in a better late than they had been in for the lift fifty years and lie had no ruina tion m faying it wa a much better game for england to play to fupport the king of the netherlands in his own territories than it wotld be to maintain lu author iiy in places taken from france which that nation might reclaim whenever he fell her military power fufiiciently revi ved to enable ktr to ventureon fnch an undertaking he was anxious that the qtteftton fhould rcrt on this principle that england fhould rather take upon her- felf to defend the netherlands than to hold th ftrong placci taken from france fome of which it mull be difficult to maiitfliu and f me ifio fi ihiihuu it mull beobvjolm to every perlon who loi fced at their military fit nation would be rather an incumbrance than an ad- vantuce he would now f ly a few words on the fubject of the faoificesof a pecuniary nature impofed upon france in fatiflfac- tionofrhe views of the allies looking nt the opatioii which thefe would have upon the french government he cer tainly roufidered what had been done in this reflect was politically the moll expe jient courfe to neuifahzc in the fiift in- lance and ultimately to remedy thai military fpirh which had proved fo fatal o tle repofe of europe if we drew from the french thofe rcfources which might fuftain a military force and ap- point on which it could be 2ed apo with mntua benefit the advaniaes con tended for on cither fide were lesr he believed france could pay the contribu tions which had been demanded and that fiie intended paying them france he maintained was as greatly interested in feeing that milirary fpirit fumije whicfc had prevailed within her territories fo long ai it was poffible the rest of eu rope could be ir at the end of fic years he fhould find this to have been materially abated and her civil energies increafed in proportion the change thus produced would be not lefs beneficial to her than it would prove to her neigh bors the contributionj demanded could be net bv the revems of that conn- fry by the fale of crown lands by the augmentation of her national debt lie might be enabled honorably to fulfil her engagements without bringing on the srate any extraordinary calamity france it had been stipulated fliould pay as an indemnity to the allies the fum of 700000000 livres z8 or 29 000000 sterling but this was comparatively fpeaking a very inconfiderble payment when put by the fide of i lie other expen- fes which the late war hid thrown upon her in addition to ths 2900000c fiance bad engaged to ai fain an army of 150000 men b lonjng to tl allies for rive ytf toe txpenfe of eacft thoufand men cotiid net he estimated at lefs than l000oco of livres per aim this army therefore would call fraud yearly the fum of 150000000 ffflfll this it would be ken the fums wici france would have to pay in five years fr the main enance of this arnv wcih he ito coo 000 of live making with the 700000000 given to the rfiscai an indemnity a total of 145000000 of livrer by a convention conclurfcdj the frencrt government had engagrd to pay mo li vres a man tsbrjut 5 on the whulv f rcc of 1040000 men which hrd mar ched into france to coinjuei peace rfni the lall payment due on thin account bad been made j z expecc of this vil force hd been borne by france or sift or fix months aid t added to the firms which he int already named nd other charges v hich bad been thrown on her brought rise toiil expenfe of riit invaiion which ihc had fullaincd up to a film of not lefs than 2000 millions of li vres about 8ocococo let ling he deprecated t hat dil pofition toarraio ltlc ijwlw ill luitu pttei uj had recently brcn manifcucd and con- itnded thefc efforts to create an alarm unfounded in the full inflance were like ly if any thing could be expected to produce fotfl an effect to originate flic evils the exmtence of which thofe to whom he referred afford to deolore the friendly difpofition of the emperof of rufna towards thi- country had been parttculaily manifetted in the courfe which he had recently taken wiih ref pect to the ionian i hands this fuppj ed a refutatiarj of all the ftatements whi had been circulated for the pnrpofe of awakening a jealoufy agaitft rufiia on the part of this country if any thig was done by this country which at all went to feparate its intertits from thofe plied it to the fupport of their own kept ii of its allies he was convinced tint we therefor the purpofifa ofuirveiffanffe we fliould not only give up the advantage tojk thebeft means for preventing the recurrence of thofe cils againft which it va the object of the gjhea to guard trjs h- thiht the wiled policy that rould b peifaded to accoinplilh the end in view and that uhcfa wonm be the lead fteifive as ft wnuld be the leaft in furious to france hexfelf thi perfc vered in for five year he entertained fanguinc hcrcs would elablih the tran quility of france and with it that of the rest of europe but he was aware that it was common fr gentleman to fay the eontrihitfoi which had been impofed f france couid nt art would not pay jn aniwer to thij he had h the first place to state tha file had aircadv made verv confideralde payments and tliefe under circumstances of peculiar difficulty and emharrafimeut in the fecond he would obferve file must pay them or become bankrupt in national credit and thirdly it was to be remembered that if lie fail ed to do this we fhould then stand in the fame fituation in which we had stood when in the opinion cf fome gentlemen we ought to have infisted upon othei terms founded upon permanent ceffiona of territory to be made by france it was now to be confidcred how the payments could be made by fiance and what would be the effect of them an her trade and rcfources i in fpeaking of the arrangements which had been made he wiflied it to be distinctly understood that whenhefpoke of them as being wife hc did not give them that chaiactcr becaufe he thought them rtliuonj to france he protested against this doctrine altogeth er as he was fatisfied no arrangement could be wife that carried ruin to one of the countries between which it wan con cluded he believed that if both par lies had not an interest in carrying any treaty negotiated into effect it must c government at that time bu to look at veutaally foil in mifcalcalating the felf from their influence but we fhould do that which would tend to keep up that military fpirit in europe which it va defirabie to fee lowered hear bear though the other powers in europe had not been thrown into thofe monftrous creations of military efforts which had been witneficd ir fiance hill it could not be denied that there existed in them a warlike fpirit which could not immediately fubfidc and he went along withhofeon the oppofite fide who were of opinion a perfect flate of peace could never be abtained tiil that foirit j fhould be much abated hrzr hear j till armieagain became univei fally the creatures of the state inftead of state being as they had been fcen in fome in- rances the creatures of the rrmfes ffear hear hear a reduction of the military force of england could take place fwner than a firiilar reduction could be effected in other cost trie but if we were to be preciitite in put ting this mcafure in operation while all the reft of the world were in arms wt fhould do that which would be likly to perpetuate that fyllcm which we wind to fee changed and which if a different courfe went pin bled on or pai t we nrigat rcafonablv hope w nld not long be up held hear hear bear and loud cheer ing his lordhip concluded one ftf the most able fpeeches ever ddojred in parliament by moving an addrcf stniui to the one moved in the houfe of lods by the earl of liverpool for sale a number of town lots french church the payment will be made eafy hearl kingfton sept i 1815 uhl near tlic tcima of