eal with the ulnon of scotland into parishes and this took place in the reign of alexander 1st from 1102 to 1124 many centuries before america was dis covered in the dh parliament of james 4th 1404 it was enacted u that all ba- rensand free holders that are of sub stance shall put their eldest sons and heirs to the schools thisrlearly evin ces that schools existed at this early pe riod on the 10th december 16 16 the secret council of james 6th framed nn act in which it was declared neces sary and expedient ihat hi rvery parish of the kingdom a school should be estab lished and a fit person appointed to teach the same upon the ex pence of the parish ioners according to the quantity and quality of the parish this act mas ra tified by the parliament in hijj and in 1638 the presbyteries were urged to see it carried into effect within their bounds m acrain confirmed in the parliament of 161 j ami re- enacted with more particu lar provisions in igofi so much for the first part of your assertion that paro chial schools were earlier established in new england than in scotland the se cond put that the system of education was more uniformly and completely car ried into effect ii the former country than in the latter is equally void of foun dation bat i proceed with ur ipaae- gyric the attention paid by some of the co lonists to the civilisation of the indiana and their convention to christianity de serves praise though partial in its exer tion and altogether unsuccesjful yet here as well as in the former parts of this section you are anxious to exalt the merits of vour countrymen at the ex- pence of the people of england though it was within your knowledge that by far the most vigorous and effectual exertions to propagate the gospel among th- in dians were made by the church of eng land missionaries sent out fur that ex press purpose your last subject of praise the physi cal cccouomy of the settlements and their rapid increase requires no remarks is certainly wonderful that fc great a nation hath sprung up in so short a time from so small beginnings yours sec parliament of upper- canada house of assembly satcroay 2gti february when the lor was thrown open we found mr nichol on his leg- he stated that the flagrant impolicy of the house upon the militia law last session was such that lie could not name them as the true and faithful representatives of their constituents thev had before his return borne thrown the bill out but had brought it in immediately afterwards and passed it into a law upon such proceedings he must say that there could be no faith put in journals since they de cide one day and expunge the next the bill was of a most important nature and the manner in which it was enacted and pased was foreign to the constitution of the country let them look to great britain where in that routitrv could tbey find an instance of a person being punished by martial law in time of peace except ihe ar my and navy and surely they could not place the militia of this country upon a footing with them it ought not to extend to the militia of this country they were freemen and he trusted they would always meet wilh the protection of thisllonc mr fraser jfras surprised hov the gentleman could complain of a breach of privilege as ire might have stopped tiil the cloc of the session and havefrcised his legislative abilities mr nichol insisted that they infriftgptl upon herisl ku nrlv of parnamrnr hut or nrjmb- lie the introduction of martial law in time of peace was agros violation of the constifutjon the journals mere no record- thev might be called so but he could not rely uhffl them when cut up by half a dozen of members in iinr sl decisions lie trusted that tie parties to that business would make atonement to the country for their conduct was it not aniuiquitous pro ceeding that a bill lost in the houe in a par- liamentary way should appear afterwards on their journal in an unparliamentary way the house went into a committee on the prince regents answer relating to the naviga tion of the saint lawrence mr van koughneit in the chair imr niclol moved that an llumble address be presented to his excellency u tanking him for the communication lie remarked that the province had not the means of completing t lie work because it wa withheld from them lie entirely objected to jobs and thought the vii- i gallon coulj not he improved nntcaj it were un- i dertaken by public bodies otherwise the sums j raised would be wallowed u by favouritep they were now bankrupts and to be talking of im proving the navigation of he saint lawrence was laughable lie had do doubt if thejy could find ways and means of raising a supply people here would find wavsand means to spend it mr curwell was of opinion lhat the saint lawrence would not be improved however de sirable ard advantageous to the province on ac count of the large salary aked by the engineer resolution adopted the committee rose and reported resolutions and upon the motion of mr rurweu mr mcmor- tin and mr cotter were appointed a committee to prepare a draft of an address to be presented to his ivxcellency pursuant to the resolutions of the house of this day- mr nicliol from the committee on the sub ject of claims reported that the draft of an ad dress was ready which was received and read the first time mr nichol proposed for the general dispatch of business that the 5th rule of the house should be dispensed with he had no motion of a dark or hidden nature his conduct should be fair and open and lie intended to move for an account of the public expenditure and civil establishment and as his excellency w anxious to return lo quebec he hoped no opposition would be offered mr mac mart in believed the conduct of the honourable gentleman to be fair and open but dispensing with the rule of the house might put it in the power of others to take advantage of it as was the case before mr burwcll opposed the resolution of mr nichol and was of opinion that the rule ought not to be dispensed with mr fraser opposed the resolution the resolution passed that the 5th rule of utj fosse bedipeued with so far as related to the address to hi excellency the governor with np ct to inquest cpon the motion of mr nichol the iukisc re- onedurf into a committee of the whwleto lair ihr- address into cons4 deration the commit c upon luotiun of mr xichol ove ami reported acirlrr mr nichol airtwil thai rliraemrew be eiro- rd and read thi mirrf rimetm- ay mr nichol troy th un lie f p rtrj ihaj the jbrafl of an address to tlis excellency the lieutenant governor on the subject of the reve nue was ready received and read the first time mrnichol moved lhat the fifth rule of the house be dispensed with so far as related to the address to his excellency the lieutenant governor on the subject of the kevcnue ordered on the motion of mr nichol the house re- solvediuelfinto a committee of the whole to take the address into consideration he stated hisohject in moving for the accounts was to see the state of the revenue lower ca nada vu in their debt x5t0u0 under an en glish act of parliament the large demands against them should make them investigate every tiling and endeavour to get rid of their bank ruptcy and die best wa was to commence at the foundation in order to be happy and prosper ous they should live within their income and en force retrenchment olherwie their constituents mum curse the day they sent them to that house lie had courage to despise the sneers of courtiers and disdained to court popularity it was his du ty and the dnty of every member of the house to see how far the burthens could be lessened it was his wish to stop profusion in their expendi ture which was carried to a greater extent here tofore titan ai present he had a duty to per form and pocecded on the ground cf conviction disregarding the consequences of being cherish- el or execrated by high or lovv the session af forded time to vote money iuav and pave them time to see why it should be voted lie moved the committee to rise and report the address the question being put as to its being read was carried mr nichol moved that ihe address to his ex cellency on the crown revenue disposition be engrossed and read a third time tfrfct day orde red mr me martin from the committee reported th t tie draft of an aimres was ready on the 1 iy hion of lit prinr llrorrfitc ine r deceived and read thcrtrst tune and on the mo lihn er mr nichol was ordered lo be read a se cond lime on monday next fmtiox law aiapmin hit l the house resolved itelf iiiloa committee of the whole to take thss bill into eouidiatiou mr yku kooghnett observed tltit there was little room left for his observation from what had been said on a former dav theohiectofihe b ii then before the commiiti e was to io awav if w ith the obnoxious part of tin former he con ceived it to be unconstitutional to place it in the power of one man to arrau try anri pas sen tence upon another by sending him out of the country two persons had suffered by the enact ment of that law which wasmihvermveof the con tention howeverhe wisofr pinion that one mr gourlao deserved it and he would rhank the commiv inner for doing his dni in that case but as the innocent were as likely fo sutler as the eirilfi and as it was foreign to the law of ivng- lond he felt it hi- duty to bring in the present bui which was loudly called lor by the country lie would have brought in a hill for its lata re peal but feared it might meet with opposition mr nicholl rose and said lie was in favour of the amendment he appro ed of arrest for sedi tious practices which could be done without the aid of that obnoxious act thev onjrht even to be induced by the governors speech to repeal it as the ordinary safeguards of the constitution were sufficient without extraordinary safeguard some of the members who pasted the act thought it operated against foreigners others entirely against his majestys subjects and none of them understood it iiemr nichol heard he wa ap pointed a commissioner he was now not then a democrat at bast he was called so but was sa tisfied with rtff erat if lie carried the measures that were bciulioal to the country suppose a man placed in office negligent of his duty ig norant illiterate malicious intolerant and vin dictive spurning the presence of those that he is bound to attend and meeting with one whom he finds troublesome to gcd rid of him he points him out to his satellite as seditious he satellite though ignorant of the meaning of the word sedi tion yet willing to swear goes before an igno rant commissioner who is anxious lo support the government and please the intolerant vindictive gentleman the comminsiouer grants bis war rant the prisoner is brought up he denies the charge of sedition and demand liberation upoii hii ill he can by a jury of uh eouuti v prove his innocence this is denied him- he is sent to jail no pen or ink u allowed him il lie receives a letter it i examined he lies there ill what lie might term a latile sdodstv he is called up on for trial tiot whetherhe be a seditious man hill whether theinorant coitnnissiouer ave the ordei for hb arrest upon the oath ul the ignorant informer and whether he refined to obej the or der of banishment so this extraordinary hw- rr tfiven t extmordlolirj i loirmti r- wiki ir ignorant and mercenary condemns the most jpeciahlpart nf thekings riibjectsio hanishnn m mr litirwell was of opinion that the act ouhi to be r pealed and in thai opinion he was sup ported hyntlemen of the firt respectability a will ad the high authority of lecllene in his coiunniuitntion to the iiuiw who said thai theordifuirj safeguards were sufiicrenl for the protection of the province the act of the 44ill of the king was more than an ordinary safeguard and was passed isor 14 ye4srs after the constitu tion wa- given ti the iloiuce he wu of o- p in ion that the act was meant to openite aaiust british subjects dangerous m hotnej fiom whom alone and not from aliens they were to expect trouble he iiould therefore inove thai the act of tin 14th nfhe king he repialed a the safe guard of ihe constitution wa- the constitution it- ell and did not require thai act to support it mr mcmanin opposed the lowi repeal the governor refened oulv to the last convention aci the net of the 1 lih of the king was one of the safeguards f the constitution it miehl pluee in the hards of one man 100 much power but surely in this country that power could io be abided it was a necessary power in the eae of one individual the magistrates knew that law but did not know the law of england he thought the law of great service to ihe country as cdiious characters were turned out and o- tiier- were deterred from coming in the speaker aid that gentlemen miht gloss cases as they pleaded but he denied that any case had arisen where there was an abuse made of the power of that act j f there were the wisdom of die legislature would modify it the argu ment of tite honourable gentleman mr nichol did not meet his mind and he saw nothing ob- jecliouuble in the act or subversive of the con stitution the commissioner that had the power to commit had also the power to discharge and the bill then brought in took that power from him as he mttat hold lo bail any peron resi ding here and taking the oath of allegiance was without the purview of lhat statute and if safe guards were ever required they were nevermore necessary than at present he desired gentle men to look at the siate of england and the cha racters that leave it and tly here who consider this no country to them they must admit that more than the ordinary powers of the law were necessary mr nichol stated that the ordinary safeguard of the constitution was found in the due admin istration of the law by the impartial decisions of a judge and a fair trial by a jury this extra ordinary safeguard was given when persons from ireland and scotland were flying here but the house lost sight of that dignity which was due to themselves and to the country by passing it he should he as ready as any man to pass strong acts and if i here were papers rent down to this house as was the ease in england in times of sedition to be laid before them or a secret commirtee he should support any bill that the case might war- rait lie thought it unfair aild inhuman to hang a man trt try hiui afterward and be obliged to wipi away th- tri in tltu manner which he hoped voild x f fii m aiioihei pjmv they at knew that lliev it art rulinii hill upon ir siiuni uhfii mid iitnfiu fvnin county to omit rotmda po eioi n vj eeuel op j i i i bc4 c il u ooguilty pc than oce mrccni man suffer he io rilllvr from the powerful authority or speaker and he did it with great jjifljfc howeverhe should aert that laws f extraor dlnary nature in england werehnt tfemporary from year to year the judgment learned gentleman might be greater thai bis mr w u11f j was happy thai the lieutc governor tmered with the speaker ajjjdob i speakers judgment was create governors as to the learned ppker directing their thoughts to the tuatiojf of england he would remark that the 6oyernn 0 great liriiain knew how to deal with heirsuhjects thev had ilin their pow er to pass la punioi the rorab as thev might llunjfkflt it was jhe theme of thi house atone timi that they would be blessed with a british population hey were invited to come every thiifng was expected from their loyalty but they proved to he vagabonds instead of loyalists if had a gourlay and a tandy to look to hfe wondered howcrenilemen could op pose the present bill he believed the scandalous bill il weni to amend wapaed to prevent lm- meti sampson and others from coming to this country avndifso the necessity has ion- ceased to exist as i these persons have a better licld for the display of aelr democratic principle- he should be scrry if the statement of an honoura ble membeir nas true tint there were magis trates who ij not know ihe law of lnglaud as it was disgraceful to allow sm h perons to re main in theiriiuation lie trusted lhat thev would neverr pas a law till that iifaraiius and disgraceful bill was struck out of the statute hook the speaker aflertcd that he did not differ witki the lieutenant governor as his excelllencys addicfs referred to the convention bill and not to ihe aft of the 4 r of the kn mr cotter op of the aa but ajrrltcd m ht bc to pcfyitbyamc wa med w itt neccftity for haj been upon m umr the convention ad would not nave been pai omfttee rep mgrt and askcd leave to fit again or monday next re- port received m macmarti obtained leave to bin hi ii bill to repeal par of and amend an aclofhec5u prefent reign entitled an act to the jurifdiaion of the c ourt of recj tests read isttimeandto be read the 2d time on monday i the addrefs his excellency the the lieut governor on the fubjeft of the revenue was read the third time and pa ted on the motion q mr macmartin meftrs burwcll and mcdonell were ap pointed to wait 011 the governor to know when tie forgoing addreffes would be re ceived mr nicliol gave notice that he would move on monday next that an humble ad- drefs be prefrntcd to his excellency praying his excellency might be pleafed to lay before the houfe an account of the officers employed in the provincial depart ment and the salaries and emoluments nf each annexed to the fame the date of their appointments and the period when the salaries were increafed mr cotter gave notice that he would on monday next move for leave to bring in a bill to regulate the infpeion of flour mr vankouphnett gave notice that he would on monday next bring in a bill to regulate the salary of the receiver gene ral mr robmfon brought up the petition of thomas ridout efquire ordered to lie on the table on the motion of mr robmfon the petition of fundry inhabitants of the town of kingston was brought and laid jti lias vawc mr nichol rmnj william allan efq bc ordered to on tuefday next at the bar of this houfe to anfwer fuch questions as may h afked him touching the rates of postag- charged in the pro vince mr nichol mov f t difpatch of tolttnefc that the houfe do now rife and fit again on monday at j oclock his ob- jed was to enable ocntlemen to attend on committee in the day time and difcufs the question at night which was oppofed and a motion was carried that the houfe fhould rife and fit again on monday at io oclock adjournej mon tuy th february mr frafer obtained leave to bring in a bill to repeal an aft pa in the 58th year of the present r to prevent certain meetings in this province read the first time on the motion of mr frafer it was ordered to be read a fecond time this day and that the 5th rule of the houfe be dipenfed with as far as related to the prefent bill mr nichol reminded the houfe that in palling the preiem bill it only did away with one scandalous evil whereas the aft of the 44th of the king called the sedition aft was fuch that he could not find words strong enough to exprefa his detestation of it partial meafures vould notanfwerto do away with grievous and ferious evils he approved of the prefent bill as far as it went but they wanted a sovereign balm to heal the wounds inflic ted upon the conftitutkn the feelings of the country and the charaftcr of the houfe no laws of the kind fhould exift without reftriftions u was a heinous charge againft the legifl3ture of this province to empower a mifcrean informer to go to a judge and force a nan out of the country on the motion of mr frafer the houfe refolveditfelf into a committee of the whole on the fai aift mr nichol again rofe and dated that he approved of the 1v11 as far as it went government had power to put down all tumultuous pioceedngs all reftriftions on the liberty of the fubjict fliould be limited- lie could not find tetms to exprefs his ab horrence of the ail of the 44th of the king he promoted liking out the prefent bill and intmduciig one for ihe total a rjliicu of every ac contrary to the con ftitutioc he wasas ready as any man to arm the executive to craft sedition but it mud be for a fhort period and upon the ftronged evidence that fedition did txift he was in hopes the houfe could fulfil the expectations of the people by the total repeal of the 44th and 58th of the king and he was fure there could not he found one hundred perfons in the country that would not rejoice at it it would be a proper fubjeft for humiliation and thsnkfgiving let them be refl rifted by the conlli tution and tried by a j of but not banifhedthecountryby a mifcieant informer and a mifcteant juliice there were many parliamentary inftances of four or five bills having been repealed at once and it was never more neceflary than on the prelcnt occafion he then moved the total repeal of both aft mr jones oppofed the motion of the honourable gentleman ip was contrary to the ufage of parliament to conneft two bills together which ought to be feparate and ought to be repealed by feparate laws he wa3 of opinion that limits fhould be fet to fuch bills in futureithe law was pa ted in the year 1804 when there were good caufes for its exigence as t drove to the united states thofe rebels who in flying from ireland might otherwife have roraeaahm neouwery ife fhould oppole the repeal of that law for like circumflances the difturbances in great britain induce many feditioua char- afters to feck ah afylum in this country and he would aflc gentlemen what oc casioned our prefent tranquility but that bill the difcontent caufed by gourlay a man of good abilities and ftrong fenfe excited tumult this law has rcitored tran quility and peace in the province by driving fuch turbulent charafters out of it the speaker could not accede to the propofition of the honourable gentleman mr n he never knew of mho new feparate matters to be incorporated toge ther or a claufc introduced to repeal rriother claufe it was contrary to the common ufage of parliament mr nichol infi fled that the amendment was not contrary tothc kings fnftruftions he wifhed to get rid of all extraordinary fafeguards there was no guard but a great evil effefted by that bill as no perfon would come here under the horible appre- henfions of being fubjefted to an igno minious puftifhment the people of this i countiy had their loyalty tried by a power- ful enemy and the legislature co operated with the people tome people were pleafed to fay there were difaffefted diftrifts in the province and went fo far as to name the diftrift of niagara he was happy ft was well known that that diftrift was defen ded by its inhabits when there was not a red coat in the com try let a loyal man find fault with any of the executive council and he commits a libel but they could not libe the public if they fay that a man in the executive is ignorant id arrogant intolerant is malevolent he is a libeller but let him lay to the country lc you are rebels it is a faft he is not a libeller this was a doftrine he mr n wifhed to put down the aft of the 44th whilft it lay obfolcte did no harm but when its barbarous powers were put in ex ecution k rot fed the feelings of the people of both provinces it wad a horrible law not only in his opinion but in the opinion of men of the firft relpeftability in lower canada and the bell amendment wuuld be to deftroy it he would not attend to vague ieport it fhould not be liflened to evidence was the only thing that could be relied on it wa not their bufinefs to go upon xewfpaper reports england can fay v our fubjefts fhall not go to our provinces and make laws to enforce it mr burwcll requeftcd the committee to decide on the motion without further time being tnktn up mr jones cbntendd that the diftur bances in great britain were well authen ticated and the opinion of gentlemen here was as good as the opinions of thofe below the law had been in operation 16 years and he wondered the gentleman who viewed it in fuch a horrible light did not bring the matter on before they had no petition complaining ofitspowers nothing to warrant that its repeal would be hailed with joy and acclamation it was eafy to obtain petitions and he was furprifed the gentleman didnot obtain any from thofe who faw its pernicious effefts mr fiafer oppofed the motion mr nichol aflced if the information from great britain had been as well foun ded as the information received from gen tlemen and other individuals his mr nv ftatement as a member ought to be attended to if he mr j received a letter from earl fiathutlt let them hear it and it fhould have its full weight the reafon petitions were not bid before the houfe was the exiflenceof that bill which deterred the people fiom meeting- he could name a merchant of refpefta- bility a well informed man who was afraid of attending a meeting for lofies and afked him mr n 4 fhould we run the rid of being taken up by the feditious meeting bill when fuch a gentleman had his fears how could they expeft lefs informed perfons to meet mr jones dated that the gentleman alluded io if he looked at the aft mud bc a blockhead he might be refpeftable but not intelligent bill opjcicominittei roc ma bill rojuiri received and re mr fiiicr motrrl rhii h imu on il- nmjoa of mr sr fomilum r t hill fn md ordered to be islll 7 for if art ad mmsu morrow obo timci jr isiirwrl moved hi- smnml ji reprcsrmai bill the s f vvioi commute r 1 p-b-tndakedlravcosia- n m re year ofuh ilnjestv szj 58lh and a cummiti ussissst tfl i up i vmma repeal and amendment bill macuarhn the ho revived itself is mr i hoi roc aill lhat he k retoed rmi a evil which had lon jd ohicll rd t door lor a nnmler of iau s ocloiied ie rm to be robbed ffi 2 sorry that the good tlte serviceable and z nous won- huterlng with the bad thoe s tiamen i ere hoanded bv bein comnrii d op nt ami wvice w submitted io2 mkol u defended property vere deer- viogofcrttotdetanoii bm pcoww nlhik the lmbans for lie bake of plunder and there weremaii of them should have no comiteofaiim troii the hrst but ought to be struck off if masot opinion thai the provincial artillerv dri vewooght not to be saddled upon them astker were raked 0j sr george irevost and the bur- then 61 rompennting ihem ougftt io be boruebf the lower inrnra as mi ii a- in ihm widowjwho married an i iridcildien grown up ought riot to be a burtben lie hmirdtmi jnevwwioea r f foissa slfi 5- receive their patj i ensoers persons the least able tobelr greatest sufferers mrjonei gnmen jones am mr bnrwell unpo ts adduced by mr nichol pp n mr nicliol said it was cruel fo take a man up for no crime order hirn oat of ifae country and mnd him to gaol for rtfnin to obey the order he should be irird for jcdiiion but not for diso- beying the order of a miscreant magistrate the 44di of flic king was worse than the inquisition which fries for the fart of heresy one half the people of the province could not tell you the ru unirip of the word sedition and this he had wen upon vurlays rial when the witnesses wcrcttkkcd il they knew its meaning comnitfec roe and reported proref asked ejtr to sit again toinonow report eeived tiie house went into a committee on the sessment bill mr cameron in the chair mr nichol rose and sard as there were some gentlemen there who were not in the horn when the bill lirst crime on if required some explana tion at present 1 1 o jeet vnu lhat crotn and clergy lands sbocid he uscsed iu like manner asotbcrlands n kngland palaces wreiai ed as would appear by act of parliament and every person having large landed propertyouhi to pay curgy and crown lands were iocreas- ed in value by the improvements that were made around them and those poor persons by t horn the clergy and crown lauds were raised io value were obliged to contribute while others were exempt there was nothing opposed the im provement of the country more than those lands and every man free from prejudice must say thev ought nor to be exempt from taxation it as asked who was to pay the tax laid on them he mr n would answer the land itself in the same mannerasflie sands of absentees hy the act now in operation giist and saw mills were free where the owner did not reside and even stores the w hole of the great proper belong ing to mr st george of this town in charge yf agents in all parts of the country was not rate able the bill now introduced if passed would tax the whole the clergy and crown lands and lands for the endowment of schools the bank and all bodies corporate such is the practice in other countries and it is not liable to objection a gentleman mr liaser had said on a former day that it was ungrateful to lax crown property lie mr n would say it ws unfaithful in them not to fix it and it should bc done out of respect to our sovereign whoe inva riable direction were lhat nothing harsh or op- presiv should be enacted against his subject and whose anxiety for thcirgood xva- well known lie then read rxrracfrom acts of parliament to shew that crown i and were iaed at home the speaker denied that crown lands were taxed for parochial or county rates nor was it lilt rale to the old country tk crown property was not liable to taxation he objected 10 tax lands for the use of schools it was their duty to foster and pro mote education when the lauds were leas ed the assessment goes to possession w differed with the honorable mover on those exemptions that he mentioned the hill provided for all property in possession of the owner as well as other property not in his possession the person in whose possession it highly improper to cut the bill up without a fair trial particularly as the assessors were then taking rates and putting it into opera tion mr jones stated that if frown and clcr- gry reserves were taxed it would prevent leases being hereafter taken a land taxin england is for the support of the nations large here there is no tix but assessments and they had no rilit fo tax crown and clergy reserves to support parochial estab lishments or lands for s hools and univer sities this was the first he had heard of the bill he would oppose it in every stage mr nichol stated that parochial rales were proper and should be levied upon all lands particularly those oftafge land hold ers who stop the improvement of the coun try he insisted that fixed property per sonal property goods and chattels need not be given m nis servant at his house need not return them indian lauds were taxed by the last bill as all lands in fee were rate able mr- jones asked across the table if he knew whatfr meant he mr n knew what it was but did not receive as many as the learned gentleman another honora ble member had remarked the last lime the bill was under discussion that there was nothing to be had from the indians but tom ahawks and scalping knives the contrary was thecis they had money in the funds in england and thev held their lands in tail which is fee they fcnew their property hid increased in value and when asked to dis pose of it to government they answer our property is become more valuable and yon must nay as much as individuals otherwise you shall nor have it he only wished them to lie subject to parochial rates ashy those rates raised from the poor emigrant their property was improved if the hon ourable gentleman mr jones had been here attending his duty at the beginning of the session he would have heard of the bill before today he would have heard the notice of its being intended to be brought and the postponement of its reading mr frascr said it would be time enough to tax the crown and henry reserves when thev could support the government ww army the navy the civil establishment and pay for the indian presents he differ ed very materially with the honorable gen tleman on the taxation of lands for educa tion which should be nourished above u other establishments the proposed tax up on indians was repugnant to common sense and might lead to an indian war beioft they are taxed let them be represented w this house he was anxious to know no far the tax was to reach was it to extenu to the pacific ocean to the regions io tn north west or to hudsons bay w s0 j would make a large representation- laughing ml mr jones acknowledged he was repre hensible for beinsone week away but more excusable titan others who were ayparao sent the indians had not a promise irass em iradehmr ivcho sts