Chairman Storer Asks Pointedly About the Speciï¬cations of the Proposed Gnnollthic cm ~«utensil. head nor mil to home well an!“ on up two methods.†. . Roger! of Dow- "We should test â€"‘l‘hnt clause is manifestly Cinnomon ither crack speller. * - no was Mr. The M complete 3 test is to have all the clam write ell ' w then; u the words. and the. you could have ngor Soc moms-N l ~ t ii to it. . with†MM “o‘lnsatm that the erl‘ the spelling-down fun moi win-(la. The Rate for Street Swinklifll May he Lowered So that More Streets CIII Ute the Service gâ€"nâ€"w - . . ' like the u 1W!“ M monk" M last council lesslyparagraph had said thalast word that will ever said in its favor. up to the foot that there is uniting t walks about to be aw sonic ceiuen put down in this town. 1‘ some importance that l: a matter 0 "hot the) shall 1w put down right. defective walks keenly enough to) extort it, is by no means sure. They are yet dreaming over what Toronto does, and appear to think they shall do well if needed reforms are brought; about for walks. to ’be built next like so many of their predecessors. Council sat in various committees on Wednesday night of last week from 8 o’clock till 11, and did little but look blaxlkly at the problems li- fore them. At one point an older- man became so irate at an expression of a colleague that he got up from his chair and declared he would leavd the hall, and was only prevented from doing so by the Withdrawal of the offending remark. Ald. Storer anxiously observed that the press had cost some reflec- tions on the speciï¬cations of thc Walks now under Contht, and hq wondered if there was reson for it.» "What about the charges made by the press, that the walks put. down lately are defective, and that the speciï¬cations of these we are going- to build, are defective?" asked he. Mayor Sootheranâ€"Wclll. there is truth in what the paper (The Watch- manâ€"Wurder) said. The walk beside the Simpson House is split and heal‘j ed just as was stated. Ald. Cinnamonâ€"The paper said the walks built here one full had to be shovelled out. the next spring. Is that so ‘.’ .-\ld. \IcCraeâ€"ch: on William-st. Mayor SOOtht’t'tll’lâ€".\S you strike ion\ the walks with {I cone or umbrella you hear, in some places :1. hollow sound. that makes you think the tounda‘ti0n is not secure. I think that arises from the surface having [Hem put on When the foundation 'hstd buemnv dry: and the two have not united. The walk put down by l‘ilkio is our host. walk, but then it rost the most. We must get an en- u‘inwr to tell us whether our specifi- culions are all right. or not. Aid. 0‘Ruilivâ€" Our speciï¬cations .ll‘!‘ the tun l' ;-‘ iilOSf‘ used in other towns. If there is any doubt as to whollir-r lhosc of the walks just let call for u T to l or 9 to 1 mixture. the rlnusc can lie I‘G‘Vf‘iltCll. ls the rontrnrt sight-(l yet. '? . Mayor Sootlicrunâ€"ch. ,\l«l. ()‘llt-illyâ€"ll‘lmt is the use of muting" un cngint‘cr to look ut tlii‘ spot-iiicntions then ‘P \l;l._\til‘ Sunlllt‘l‘ltllâ€"Oh, nihm‘ walks that have to \l.- put. a. clause into the :ontruct with Miller llml clears up the. doulit- ful clause. _ .\l<l. Storerâ€"lf we are not usung ct-nu'nt enough. we might. better in- crease the amount. and Day more for the walks. (‘cmcnt walks are l'i'llL (late, and “‘0 need (txpt‘riCx much as we mod tut engineer. Md. Moundcrâ€"The trouble. is more with the foundations than with the cement. At, this point the clerk produced the contract with Miller and read the clause added by the mayor and Mr. Hopkins. in their effort to get over the meaningless clause against. l menu for. be built. which the Wutchmanâ€"Wmfler has stew; - times, dily protested. The clause of the agreement said that for the faulty one in the contract. one should be sul‘stituted saying that either a. graâ€" vel mixture of 7 parts lztke gravel and one of content should be used or a broken store, 3 of sand and ment should be used. the original clause broken stone mixture was c ough and provided for stone. two ment, OLD-TIME SPELUNG MUCH w .4â€" ‘l‘orouto Eduafiouists Favor a Return f these Contests of our Boyhood (The Toronto Star, Saturday) one of co i i and that it failure the sooner we better. the foundations. . . . able overseer. the ulderrnen yet realize the peril 01 brand of cement called for 3) ing . to the inch 7 days after it has set. known before that the speciï¬cations fro ‘ ed they were all right. year, own if the 45,000 feet now un- der contract have to be shovelled out! of re- tllut none of we .15 bonds stone mixture of 4 parts now used. The part. of lieved that if the collector Was put referring to a at Work earlier and given no pay un~ lear cn- less he had the taxes in by the 14th ï¬ve parts of of sand and one. of ceâ€" ktaxes would end. Why the new clause made the cided upon later. IS LlKELY TO BE REVWED Duflem-St. school. 0 of each class, regardless of their re- Toronto pubâ€" ChUm school Wanted to know should (lewd. and Was stalled amid its mll‘ fusion. dition. ‘ Ald. McWatters declared the new Aid. O’Rizilb‘ m, J. A . am of Paw-ow. school " ' ' ' " \clour one $331 mg? we“ “This wanted to have the whole that oral. we them- “ t the llm. km. N‘ oral and the s all right‘\ sold in as he plunged he .. w I ~ . than floun‘ return match written. said . l. .. ate the doubtful dam-e of \V‘lthmw-uw. school. Rm the first vote 1'.“ principals 0n ,. .. . lv and ...n. at, the origina said he. were in favor of spelling oral . â€Ye? it. is“ replied the clerk. and counting the mistaken: l8 Voted that scuse- nay. champion 0“ The principals then voted on the suggestion that the matches should be in two partsâ€"flat. a written match, in which the whole clas- will take part: and next. the spellingâ€" down contest. favor of this method. and it was finally adopted. Mr. Alexander Muir of Gladstone- ave. school had a. further ~su®8tiom “We often address pupils. and they Ald. Cinnamonâ€"If our walks area know it tho I think the trouble is with We want a. cap- 19 any particular The clerkâ€"Yes. best Portland bear- a. tensile strain of 600 pounds should have Ald. Cinnamon-4W: ing,†he said. for yourself," interrupted were not right, but we got them t 'ear’s council and suppos- . . m 18.5 3 “The pupils should be understand the meaning of words,†the speaker continued. Mr. Hughes thought so. also. "I once asked a. class if a multitudewus made of iron or wood and they vot- ed about equally. If a, pupil asks the meaning of a. word it should be given." A committee was appointed to take charge of the matter and ar- range all details. ‘ ' ____._â€"â€" â€"Lond Minto gave a. dinner at .Ot- fawn. on Friday night. in commemor- ation of Paardeburg. / Pam and Town Puperty THE GRADER the The chairman of the Board of Works was instructed to get the gra- der and other implements into con- Ald. O'Iteilly objected to spending money on the gmder till it Was knowu that any grading would be reâ€" (mired this year. A STEAM ROLLER The mayor had got some descrip- tive literature and contract forms from the road roller people of Brant- ford. The price of a 15â€"min roller Storer semnded it. The mayor would oppose doing so till after the estimates had been brOUght down. The money must ble in sight. Ald. McCraesaid the to - . ler- could be bought an instalments FOR SALE ." ' ' P‘ :er $33.5“:sz “5.; r: 5.22:; o... .. ... .... ...... .. ' ' ' o ' - . 0 Ald. Storer said that if it. Was not 3’} 1313?le pm‘ftggg 1"}?! titres ordered now it would not get, here ad d . ° - e enc- an drained; 8 acres vuluablel till on in the summer, when the roads are tog dry to get much beneâ€" A BY-LAW to authorize the ï¬t. The question of purchase Was let stand. It was proposed to make a new rate for street sprinkling with a view to g'ptting'. people on km?†streets to petition for the service. sprinkler was no good. It made as bad mud holes as the old CB8- â€"â€"â€"â€"-+-.-"'_’ FRIDAY NIGHT Council met in committee again on Friday night. When orders of the charity despenscrs were being scan- Ald. scorer said that. the Work of di‘spcnsers should be watch- ed closely. 'l‘hc nutyor said the dis- \wrc reliable, but Ald Sto- rer declared that one of them had had said she Would give orders in spite of the council. Mr. A. Chum‘berlin of Toronto, the walks overseer, sent his bill for $10 pay- for lost time when he came down about. the Chalmers investiga- tion. ]t was not. entertained. The resolutu'On of council that; town ofï¬cials handling money should be put under company bonds brought. out the suggestion, that, both mayor and treasurer should sign all town cheques. Then the tie-asurcr need not. be bonded for as much as $20,- 000 as he now is. Letters from the treasurers of other towns showed them gave as high as does Treasurer Knowlson. The Question was let stand pending the appearance of a general system of town ï¬nancing, under preparation by the mayor. The clause in the mayor’s address referring to collecting taxes in three instalments was considered. Ald. O’Reilly did not object to making taxes payable at three different but would not have people distressed for non-payment until that end of the year. He would add a small percentage for nonâ€"payment. The mayor proposed to proxide for Idistress. but of using the same dis- cretion in putting it into force as is Ald. McCrae would col- Ald. O'Reilly be- lars. to erect a town hall ned , WHEREAS it is necessary to raise the sum of three thousand ï¬ve hun- dred dollars for the purpose of er- ecting a. town hall in the Village of Woodville and in onder thereto it will be necessary to issue debentures of the municipality of the said vil- lage of Wolodville for the said sum of three thousand ï¬ve hundred dol- lure, payable in twenty years with interest at four per cent. per unnum. AND WHEREAS it. will be nec- essary to raise the several sums in each year respectively set forth in the schedule to this byâ€"law. AND WHEREAS the amount of the whole rateable property of the Mun- icipality according to the last revis- ed assessment roll amounts to eighty six thousand ï¬ve hundred and sev- enty ï¬ve dollars. AND WHEREAS the existing de- uenture debt of the municipality amounts to'sixty seven 48-100 dol- lars and no principal or interest is in arrear. THEREFORE the municipal coun- cil of the Corporation of the Village of Woodville aforesaid enacts as fol- lows : 1. It shall We qul for the reeve of the said Village of Woodville .for the purpose aforesaid to borrow the said sum of three thousand ï¬ve hundred pensers the said municipality to the amount of three thousand ï¬ve hundred ,dol- lars in sums of not less than one hundred dollars each bearing inter- est at the rate of four per cent per annum, payable in the manner for the amount and at the times respec- tively set forth in the schedule to this by-law. 2. The sum delicn lect twice a year. the trouble of unpaid :of DecemV-r, A plan will be de- tum as to prin- TWO-HOMO! mode to On Peel-st. On dollars and to isue debentures ofx I Om. one Rom . . inside, stone foundation and cement cellar, sum- mummxao. Barn“: 52. stone foundotlon. wheat cel- lar; homo and cattle stables; sheep house 20 x 30 ; combined pig cud hm homo with cement floor. Price very reasonable. um. 70 â€pianistmp ad'- ; m no.“ down. All tun-:43 touudutlom Wood lot of 180 m 15 all. out miles mum Creek. 3 all!“ alone will all for ohout â€000. Oncoftlnholtwmthc county of Vlotorle canal-in shout 118 com. ull plow loud. in tint-elm out. ol'nultlvutlou. Buddha. good. Eight mile. Min Lindsey. one mile from Rocha-o. said four mile-MOM 850 com 8 lulled south-nut of Lind- ury; ant-clu- brick m: frame burns had other outbuild- W‘i‘m‘mw “m "‘ 200 acres 8 mne- northeast of Lind- say ; dwelling. fine burnsâ€"- one with cabling for 65 hand of cattle. Will sell 100. 150 or 200 acrer. TOWN PROPERTY ' derstand what we are say- dont no 0n Lindsay-st. between Russell and Glenelg, solid brick, 8 rooms, ce- ~ mcnt cellar. westâ€"Solid brick, two storeyfl, 9 rooms, bath, cumulu- kitchen. Fair-cveâ€"solld brick. tWO stor- eys, stable, etc. a very desirable property. On William-st. northâ€"Hansome brick residence, bath room, furnace, etc. On Albert-st. southâ€"Very desirable' residence ; price 8900. Corner William and Russell-sts., two solid brick houses with bathroom and all conveniences. 0n Melbournest†between Lindsay and Cambridge, two solid brick houses, :tw‘o storeys, 8 rooms, hard and soft water. Built two years :30. On Durham-st... near William. double frgme house : also single home and four cottages. On Russell-st near R C church, from house, stable and f acre land. On good location : the premises is a. bakechop in . fairly good condition. Also a number parts of town. Apply to S. M. PORTER. Watchman-Warden No. 103 'â€" Muuicipal Council of the Village of Woodville, in the County ,of Victoriaï¬to raise the sum of three thousand. five hundred dot in and for the said Village of Woodville, and to issue debentures therefor. Nineteenth day of March next at the hour of nine o’clock in‘the foreuloon and continuing until five o'clock in the afternoon of the same day at the town hall in the said Village of Woodvifle by J. C. Gilchrist the deputy returning ofï¬cer. 7. On Wednesday, the Eighteenth day of March the Reeve shall attend at the Council Chamber at one o'clock in the afternoon to appoint persons to attend at the said polling place and at the ï¬nal summing up of the votes by the Clerk respective- ly on behalf of the persons interest- ed in promoting or opposing the passing of the by-law. 8. The Clerk of the council of the said Municipality shall attend at the Council Chamber in the Village of Woodville at one o'clock in the af- ternoon of Friday the twentieth day of March, 1903 and sum up the num- ber of votes given for and against this by-law. Dated at the Village of Woodville this Sixteenth day of February, A. I). 1903. Schedule Referred to in the within By-In' No. I03. lnt.on i Prin. unpaid Total uv'le Prin. Each 0 Date Payment Eeéfly p‘y . k "(If yearly _'_____ ‘ g“. 1Ap120. Ap120.04 117. ° u u u I“ la n u u u u 11 Cl CC CC (C II It H u u M II (I °_m_d O 0‘ his) IQ ‘6 u It I cipal and interest shall be payable“) u u .. wered Mr. R. W. Dorm, principal of of Cannin on. It was derided to have 90 per cent. gt spective sizes, take part in the strugâ€"I of the said municipality and he gle for supremacy. Mr. W. J. Hendry of Jessie Ket- 3. It, shall be lawful for the reeve13 isl‘ u u I hereby authorized and instructed to15 i: 2: Sign and issue the said debentures:6 .. u hereby authorized to be issued and I; u u to cause the same and the interest†.. u at the Standard Bank in the Villn'giell‘ u u. u 12 u a. u 66 6‘ g. 1917 19:17! 61.83: smog; of houses in other The principals of the . . llt' schools gathered in the School :op‘épï¬ Slthdoltgnhafter niissptelliglg “ . r , or s on e remain s an 'ng, Board chamber, under the chairman- and at the close count the number of ship of Mr. James L- Hughes, ““5 ‘misspelled words to arrive at the de- morning to d.s<:uss .a. proposal to ar- , cision. . range spelling matches between the “A word misspelled should not different schools. The ï¬rst. questionzpass to the other side_" “Stated a threshed out was whether teams or principal. "er that would give them the whole classes should take part in an obvious advantage in knowing the orthography battles. Objection ‘ how it should not be spelled." was raised to the whole class com- “If you make the pupils sit, down peting. as it was stated there are as they make a mistake, one bright smug pupi‘ls in every class who simpâ€" pupil could put down a whole class;H ly cannot spell. sometimes through said Mr. J. Bennett of McCain-st. an impediment in the speech. or mer- school. . vousness. ' "Any other method will knock the "Parents would not like us to send excitement and fun out of. the con- such a pupil to a spelling match,"'test,†replied Mr. John Spence. Sa‘d Principal H. Ward of Duke-std Mr. Thomas Parker. principal of scimol. ' {Winchester-st. school, disagreed with "We have not the power to send a .Mr." Spence. coupons atdachcd thereto to be sign-m ed by the Treasurer of the said mun- icipality and the Clerk of the municr ipality is‘here‘by wthorized and in- structed to attach the seal of the mid municipality to the sail deben- tures. . 4. There shall be raised and levied meachyearbyspednlmteon all the rateable propa'ty in the munic- ipality a. sum sufï¬cient to discharge the several .instdments of prina'pol and hiterest accruingdue on the acid debt as the.†become respective- ly payable 8.00m to the W to this [ta-law. ' 5. ms byâ€"law shall take effect on the second day of April, AD. 1903. 8. 'I‘Ilcvotmofthentmya-g of “It would he a meat the acid municipality 51! be taken pupil if the parents objects," ans-'lpity to make them sit down," he onth’a b I ' on n the TAKE NOTICE that the abov 5 a. true copy of a. mm try-(in: which has Been tuba into considera- tion and which will be ï¬nally puma by the conned of the municipality in the event of the uncut of the elecâ€" tor. being obtained. thereto, after one month-from the ï¬rst publicatlm in: the Melina-Wander newspaper the date of . which publication won Thursday, the Nineteenth dny of Feb- ruary, A. D; 1903 and that!» vote: of the electors of the Municipality will be taken thereon at the town hall in the said Village of Wood- ville on ‘l‘hmvduy the Nineteenth day of Hack, A. D. 1903 at nine o'clock in the democ- and continuing until an o‘clock of the an. day. ‘ a O ..illly Spin 'wAKELY 5. FORD", xposi in; of tilt store swing to and shut out the bleak March win ds u are etcd with a 5:133 htfllicl VlCW of spring inside where early sprin s to c k s abound in t cir beauti- ful newness and fresh- n These early style are all the more a tractive for coming ion. Of course they are 0111 hints but very; litt things show how Q Q THE moment the dmmi i U! (-0 I ..OOOOOOWâ€. Q the fashion winds for spring arablbwin' , especially: when New York stands'behindfhem M‘ New Dre's: Goods Every .lluyThe best belts are of mm, Almost every day brings some- thlng new and novel, to our Dress Goods nod, yet they are to at- tract special nthcntlon. These are among the late arrivals: New Snow Fliké Shillings Lamt demandâ€"A wool fashion fabric in pretty combinations of black, new blue, pale blue, green, brown, etc., neatly checked, splashed and dotted with white especially suitable for dresses. tailor made suits and skirfs, ex- tra vnlue at 60 and 750 New Voile Boatoune All pure wool, 44 inches wide. in black and beautiful shades of reseda green and pearl grey, best French dye and ï¬nish, has a ni soft clinging effect, very silky, very handsome for full drmses at $1.25. Priestley’s New French Paplms and Satin Cldlhs 44 inches wide, Manhood all pum wool, black only. best. French dye and handsome silky finish, \ery stilish and dresses, or suits, dresses, skirts, etc. unequalled values at 50c, 75c, $1. $1.25 and 3 $1.40. - Black Silk Grenadines 44 inches wide, beautiful rich silky ï¬nish, new elaborate designs, OS-i pecially charming for dresses when made over colors or black extra value at 75c, $1, $1.23, $1.50, $2, $2.50 and $3. Lustrious Silks ' Attractivel / hiced. l l A shipment of new Silks just to, hand 2000 hundred pieces in ull.| Each one represents a different. stcxture of shade or Qualityâ€"all] priced to please. Japan Taffeta. Wash Silks, 21 in. wide, bright rich finish, perfect dye, choice of all the most faShâ€" ionablo shades, including white and black. very suitable for se- paratc waists or full dres- 25 $69, extra value at... c A Very fine Japan Taffeta Silk, 2.8 inches wide, a splendid Weight for waists, drcsscs.‘trimmings, vlC., rich in finish, perfect in dye, lrig‘ht, delicate, solid shades of almost may Wanted kind, 5. Friday... ‘ A Pure Silk 'l‘uficta. soft. rich quality, beautiful in finish, fault! less in dye, dainty. dclicgtc solid shades, including black and white, 22 inches wide, unequalled 7: value at... ‘c l-‘nncy Open Work Taffeta Silks, .....o y ..... brightly ï¬nished. soft rich quali- The Staple Department. hm. mm" 1y. 22 inches wide. guaranteed to give vxrcllcnt wear. choice of real new open work patterns. mostly] stripes. solid colors of black, white or cream. modestly [N’ICPO at $1.25. ‘1, 75¢. 600. Some New Neckwear, . Belts and Corsets The Neackww starts pretty stocks _ any new and daft-due shade, and then come: the more expensive. Silk Ties or Muslin and collars and ‘Ties combined art-50m 75c, . $1. 21.25, 61.50.12 and 42:50. 11169 of course are very bright» est, newest end bcslmton-had from foshions lulcst: fancienz'» 3‘ . WAKEweFOR collar: .1' "223?: Women's 56 50 Cravenette are which covered with stitching made in several novel styles better one are of Taffeta. Silk with new gilt buckle at 25c. The briglt patent Or plain finish which start at. 50c, and go up to $1.5m New Shapes In Corsets l D 3 O and have tabs at back; thcyg 3 As in other things corsets lune O 0 their changa of style. There wag two makers of corsets who have made a. great name for LhculSCl-. ves, and also made their Corsets wonderfully famous, simply by. leading the styles, making only the most reliable and perfectinâ€" ting models, and Last but not§ least by giving the best possible corset values. These makers are: Neignrtcn Bros, New York City,‘ (W. B.) and Brush and Co, (13.. C) 'l‘orOnto. That is why we: have chosen these from all others. kind now, all we ask of you is to 0 try them. Our stock comprises D. It C. at 39c up to $1.5M pct: pair, and W. B. at $1.25 and. $1.50. You will be sure of get- ting what you want. Dainty, Delicate Wash Fabrics Too cold you any; yes too early to think as summer muslins. Not. a bit, of it. Many people have. cxpvrimced the grant dissappoinbâ€" . meat in not getting just. what they Wanted later in the season. . To these folks We need not ask. to buy nowâ€"they will be sure to. do that. It's the people who. think there's lots of time, thnt we warn to make their selections now. The limited space ilm‘r‘ will not permit detailed descrip- tions, any way it would be foolish for us to try to tell you by printed words of their Wonderful- ly charming beauty. 'l‘hi-n llul all here 301.. but you know lll',‘ old storyâ€"the best goes firs? (‘omc and sec. The Final Clean Up in Winter Goods A few left overs here and .1 int straglcrs by the wayâ€" it loni'ifl‘ Piece article, etc.,â€"â€"a.ll buncln-vl. together for one genuine chum. “P- A fourth, a third, yes ill. some instances close to: 3‘ 08 former prices. For instnnvv there are in the nlcn's ill-put". meats 4†and 50c wool until-:â€" wcar 29c, some 50 and HW heavy top shirts at 39c, and 7:. and 80c kinds at 596. lli‘oVA' worsted black socks 23c from Iliu- A few pair heavy Kunifort. Mitts 48c from 50. About a don-n Men‘s Over-coats at $5, “‘i'r‘t,‘ $7.50 and $8. A few Furs at less than manufac- W's Prices, including (fonts and Cam for men, Jackets. none. )1qu! and Gauntlets, (‘nps nni Caperincs for women and girls 00.0.6000 .OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ,. “‘Ool blankets near hull wit" and some wool flannels clamp. n the Women's and Girl's ll‘wiw‘.‘ and Underwear th‘l'l.’ :U't’ winr rare snaps. Childrvn's vests at 10c, stockings of Women's vests at. 15c, ntockixu!S at 35c, which were about dimiii“ this price. \\ ool Rain Coats $5. 2‘10â€" only Women's Cfa\4"‘.‘wl.l.l‘ Rain Coats, full length. lam: .‘lllli new and stylish in (l‘lalll'il"‘- 40 cell at...... .. large enough‘té enable us . u. , ......OOOOQO...°QO“OQO“OOOOOO0.00900006900000000000 d m Diamonds. Silverware m‘ ‘5“ pfl‘to t0 prom‘n'» 10“ or esteem i) colon. we a royal s:- The Popular Jewelr The Rathbu LINDSAY AG = Wholesale and Retail - ova lOOcarloads handle * {RAILWAY Tl { Contracts given for dc point on the Grand Tm division.) HARDWOOD LUMBE‘ Basswood, Elm and B Order preferred} All kinds of Logs Our Mills at Lindsay Falls. (3. ii. 1 I Piiiiii ‘ General Mei“ > Gained, Successors 10 Ho _ We are stifl taking a into: our customers 53:. not keep in szock. Orders for furs are and any one desiring f else, kindly call at the . patt'culars, and we will nutrition in procuring t Isfaction of the custom Mr. Chairpicn, the 1 mid-night oil getting 0 1} Very busy nying to . lSEcd at the date promi The suits which we at $12 worth $16 an: rapidly. (Jail and leave you. the rush of S; ring trad ‘ Heady-Made We are re price of all our KOOdS, such as Roofers, Ulster Suits. .Highest m . Palfl f or But Dried Apples, , 0}†Waggon mg Its regular Spring. and so.i