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01‘ lhrw mun their arnvai and [005. lilqunt1u5v u: what. mm was available 10 shmu tin-m the lift lock and other Willis of :uLcrcst. The Trenton dc- pumt‘xun vousists of Messrs. G. W. Ostrom. Mayor; \V. H. Matthews,‘G. A. White, Capt. Vanalstiner, }J. E. Mayhem, .I. Funnel], 8. Reid, D. G11- mour. President of the Trent Conser- Yutzun Association. Those from ("aml'bcllford are, Messrs. Chas. anith. PNsxdeflt, and A. C. W'cst, Vice-President of the Board of Trade; L come for a. n y evemng? n’t know; am afraid I lave got one v i F1. Em... A. B. Comma, Jt. 1(1). ' rigs n‘ ‘ " ‘OW d5. G. H. Casson, L. G. .3. 5 e1; - in] wen ’ ”’3’ and R. 5. Shannon. The gentle- . ‘ , m'uu from Port Hope are, Messrs. J. ‘enjoy the H" Mug-r Quinlan, Mayor; F. Outta-n}, Aldfi‘mun: Dr. L .3. Powers. Pres:- ‘{*‘nt of tho Trent Canal Association; L01. H. A. \Vurd, ALP” lst Viceâ€"Presi- FY- 2:11:31 J, F. Clark. 2nd Vice-Pmsidcglft; - anon, secretary; Col. Wm. '- c- hbwflld Lean. County Councillor; Curtain 'l’euCOCk, F. 5. White, Reeve of Hope fowns‘nig. W. AI. Callum. R. A. Mull- nollund, and A. H. C. Long. Others j rticular time o! (b I as a very hm til no doubt, My All know what fig. l ends o! 01'“, tastings suitable h lrenswearaadm flier for Separate Shh Iashmeree, AIM at. a. few days ‘- ains and the pie mg '. KYUI * Sale Price "”11 I”Kurd to economical trad? Lortatihn '0! “3: 393bpartand~ m errme'd By the Cove {dink}??? 6;): 8th} for many years, extending'tack‘ 19‘ turns thkmfaory aft-He present“ W -‘ fatâ€"natu- uemmu 1). LE President B: '1’. H. Wyse, T. E. Wade ““811: Hem Wgh; H. J “’3. supean Trent Cana President R: howen. Aid. hos, Ritchie Peterborough. Thursday, March 24. Many important meetings have been held in the Town Council Chamber, but none more so than that yvhich gathered there about half -past one this afternoon. when Mr. John Bert- rum and Mr. Robert Reford, repre- swung the Transportation Commis- Signâ€"the former gentleman being nâ€"sat to hear evidence in re- gm! to lh'tt question which has been so muvii discussed in Peterborough m: whll'li is of the greater import- gnu: since it involves a consideration ofthe 1.02siblc facility afforded by the completion of the Trent Canal, “my transportation, as applying mom particularly to the produce of me West and its shipment to the sea- board. Um: member of the Commis- siun is well known in Peterborough. Mr. John Bertram, who was for some mm in the hardware business here, ind xvii-(asexual West l’e-te-rborough mic House of Commons. He is un- doubtedly well acquainted with the transportation question locally and likewise with the object to her ful- filled by the Trent Canal as a great 1 national waterWay, and the possibili- ‘ lies which it ;.resents by way of solution to a. question of vast im- portance lo Canada. The other mem- ber. Mr. Relord is a Montreal man whose busiiiu-ss has associated him closely with shipping, and 1101108 well fitted to appreciate the value of (my videuu: submitted. The other mem- ber of the Commission, Mr. Fry, is ‘at resent absent in the Old pountry. The (tVldQ'llUC taken here will chiefly Mate to the effect which the opera- tion of the ’l‘rcnt Canal will have ui'on lht lraxmportution question. .7 me consideration will iirobably be 'giVen ic looil conditions, and Evidence will be submitted by representatives from many municipalities along the route. Trenton, Bellevilile, Campbellford, {Lindsay and Port Hope and many ‘ulher 1.1:u'rs are sending delegates, Hill among these the manufacturers lull [ind “eminent place. Mayor Rein-i- and {he alder-men met many uf these mum their arrival and took ll'qunlu'bv oi what time was thilable l0 show tliriu the lift lock and other chairma filled by national lies whi soiutiou signâ€"Inc chairman gazd to t Dominion Control. of Dams Indicates Early Completion, Thinks filr. BertramuFigures as to the Cost of Operating a Canal Heet==Trenton and Port Hope HearduDavid Gilmou'r’s Able Consideration of the Casea-Statenient of the American Cereal Company and of Towns Along the Canal. ENCOURAGEMENT TO INDUSTRIES The Waterway Would be a Great Regulator of Freight Rates. wen. Aid. Panter, J. R. ‘3 s. Ritchie of Belleville. and ' :rs. THE MAYOR'S ADDRESS 33°F Roger delivered the Tag address at LLhe unpninn r. THE LOCAL CONDITIONS CITED Considerable Evidence Taken re the Trent Can-a]. TRANSEQRIATION COMMISSION I €01 unwered the to]- UN: opening (of the Douro : ' Mayo} ‘1"! a w [rm L30_rporation ‘R. . Lainb. "many )ack $00 tons afi'éihét tMiFvifiuégnau.§; sent have great snatches otopen water up aaminnt ("arrow prism. but above , ‘ di ‘ - a summm mm. fiat: "In the great staple products, gmin ‘lumbcr, live stock,dai1y products and apples, the export business from the Port of Montreal during the scu- son of navigation, was hugger than from any other part on this contin- out not excepting: New York. " ,_ Our astute heighbors to the Syutjb observedflhis reé’ult quite as Soon as we did and have taken immediate steps to improve their transportation routes for the purpose of recovering the trade which has been diverted to Canada. Any one reading the reports PTO- spnted 'to the State Legislature 0‘ mew York is struck at once by the many wferenoes‘to the Canadian Cun- als and the success which has at tend- ed than. The remedy agreed on by all the experjza is the speedy and thorough org‘gqizajion and mllhrgé- innnd- -3 1.1 , __-_â€"-.-_ ---- wuu-p‘f meat of the Erie Canal. Both 1.01m- cal parties have taken the mn't‘teryp and a general campaign oi cducatnon has been outcrcd‘upon witthhe 'rev fun. that on the 3rd day of: Novembpr . ‘. exmndg‘ture of five; Milkmm our part vyfll complete. L113 15391: Watgrway and in our qpimonwdl wags-fly ”33“ are: t , hm?! . e emu-a" , i? w ..,;( iWhy nOtv’,"m:5}3. MM}- The trade of the port 01' Montreal has increased by leaps and boundsâ€" last year, according to the Montreal Harbor returns the results were phe- nominal. an}: expenqiture of five mvihionp on our part W111 , complete (.113 ngt Waterway and in our bpimou‘ W11) permanent! .V secure the mug by}! bf the Western trade tor (in Open to mien, Jon- grmfl'j's the What was the result? The wise policy of the Canadian Government in deepening and enlarging the St. Lawrence canals, supplied a now im- petus and a. new direction to .W'cstern trade which flowed and always will flow along the line of least resistance, with the result that Canada and Montreal have gained a. large share of the trade which the Loxt of New York has lost. In the State of New York we have ready to hand, with a:'. necessary scientific details, a great object les- son in the Erie Canal. The leaders in both the great political parties in that State have ascribed the cOmmer- cial supremacy of the Empire State to the Erie Canal. So long as that Guam] was able to compete with the mil- ways in the handling of Ircight, just so long was the State of New York supreme in the matters of commerce. It was the Erie Canai that fixed the rates not only between Buffalo and New York but between Chicago and the seaboard with grew: profit to the farmers and producers of the West. In all these countries and in many others, canal construction 2m dc- vciopmcnt is being steadily pushed forward as the chief solution of the transyortaxion qu§§tion._ Russia. has expended $30,000,000 in five years and there are in Lhmt country 60,000 cannJ boats with crews numbering 300,000 men. Vessels 200 feet. long can traverse the whole length of the country from the Cus- piun Sou to SL. Petershurg, 2,500 miles. Permit me to offer :1 few geneiul observations as. to the Value ol; Lilla route. leaving it; to the witnesses who follow to supply details. ; The histt :y oi all the nations who late taking part in the struggle for supremacy in commerce, England, France, Germany, Russia, The United States, and the Dominion of Canada in particular, is a record of increas- ing develog-ment of national water- way 3. France has 7,000 1n.les olf in- ternal navigation, and the water traffic of that country has increased between the years 1872. and 1897, by 140 per cent., whereas the rail traffic has increased but 75 per cent. Belgium has expended since 1860, upwards of $50,000,000 enlarging its canals. Ger- many has just opened a new cmiiul from Dartmund to Emden, a distance of no miles. which will carry barges ver; similar to those p-i-Oposed for the Trent Waterway, 230 feet long; 30 feet wide and 7 1-2 feet draft, and costing $5,000 each. The annqu interest on ,thc capital already expended amounts to the large sum of $120,000, which is a yearly loss to the peeplc of Canada uum the work is completed. The won: which baa been done to date. is of no avail unless the remain- ing secuons on the nouhern and southern extremities of the mute are completed so as to open for traffic this gveat inhnd wavcrwuy. There remain but 33 miles to completed at an estimated cost $5,000,000. About 160 miles of this waterway: has already been completed by the construction of twenty-five helm and short sections of canal at a cost of $4, 000, 000. ever. will solve many of the questions of transportation you are new con- sidering m the simplest 'and least expensive manner. 2â€"Eduoate the pubho to huh“. tam o! abort direct no“. mm mm M Vlfiwzhge‘enways key to :Tlianaportn- tlon .Trent anal. shortest. changes, and eaten; wstorw on, fingering continua; We invi ‘ practical bani”. nee: discussion. ‘ The evidence which Mr. David; Gil- mour’ of .Tranton, President of. "the True-n1: Water ConserVation Associa- tion. has prepared (or p’réoegmtatiqn to .the W (has With - the two impdntm points. “Wgter TM." in which he at; north granitic .mm in supper-trio! the, complgtian o! the_Trent Canal. and «name Babes. Trent wuer Route." spar Vle-w‘nnv â€"v ~_ 8" _‘V I mer feliowâ€"townsmen. He wished it P understood that he was not present as a plantisan of Peter-borough. ’but to carry amt this duties @s a commis- sioner in the employ of the Govern- ment. Pnofluotion was the first necessity and transportation the next in a nation's consideration. ‘The question was as the 'how ~1the products of the ,W'est were uto ‘be marketed. There was an awakening in evidence in. regard to’these. The speaker rWail applauded when he said that ,/ at no period had the itr‘ade of “the United States equalled 'the progress 301' that of Canada during Itihe past‘fivo or six years. ‘The present centni'y Mr. Bertram, i-n replying to "the address, said it afforded him " great. pleasure to be present to meet for- mer fellowâ€"townsman. He wished it We are in hearty sympathy with all schemes which are recommended for the improvement of our national waterways. .We do not ask that the Trent route should be fostered at the eanse of others. ’We believe that there will be grain enough to keep them all employed in u few years hence. but we also believe that there is no public work [or the welfaw of Canada which is so urgently needed at the present time as the Trent Valley Waterway. AR°I10RÂ¥E§EE§5§ ioézitioqs in Canada, cheat power,_ and low heights-7a copl- binatio . whxch should prove Irresm- table. From the height of land to Lake Ontario there is :1 nggl of :iimut 200 feet. The supply otfiflntcr is ample and the possible development of pow- er immense. The completion of the waterway will, therefore, offer to the large industrial gorpqrutiops n‘whi‘ch From Trenton to Midland along the entire routcyare splendid waLer pow- am; there is no section of the Dom- inion of Canada. not. (Wen includmg the. power radius of Niagara Falls, which offers such a. field for mdus- trial development. - . . . r u it would pay for itself in a. very few years. ‘ The railways now charge the very highest rates which commerce can endure and live. There is no other check upon the schedules 'which they put into force from year to year. The presence of the canal would change all this and the limit would then be fixed by the cost of transport over the water route and every shipper wofuld have immediate and lasting reâ€" lie . Of the effect 'of the Trent route upon local rates. I will say that it would save hundreds of thousands or dollars to the merchants and manu- facturers of the district, and prove of incalculable benefit to the great stretches of fertile land which sur- round it. Even if it should lic idle and unused The completion of the Trent Water- way would throw into omnpctition with the Grand Trunk and the Can. adu. Atlantic Railway a line of com- munication which would vastly m- crease the possibilities of this the true geographical line of transpor- tation; and if history should repeat itself there would be an 1mmedimc reduction in the through rates be- tween the \Vcat and t1}? Seaboard. WATER TRANSPORTATION, Great. quantities of both Canadian) and American grain are now moving eastward via. Midland.1)cpot Harbox and. other Georgian B.ty ports. ”If; is’ciaimed 'umt oRror' 28,000,000 bushels last “year were shipped to Midland and DepofiJHagbor alone. It is estimateo oy the Canal Im- provemcnt State Committee (See Can- al Improvement Text Book, Page 102) that the enlargement of the Erie Canal as was now proposed will re- duce the cost of transportation thro- ugh that Canal to one third the pre- sent figures. The Trent Valley Watâ€" erway by reason of its superior ad- vantages should be able to improve. on this and thus remove. for the pre- sent at least, all fear of successful competition from the_1'_3rie_ route. . The Inland Water rate for grain from Chicago to New York via the Erie Canal was .15 cents per ton mile. These significant figures are sure- ly as good an argument for the speedy completion of the Trent Waterway as could be advanced. [or the Erie Canal in its present condition offers no such facilities for cheap transpor- tation as will the Trent, for the rea- sons advanced above. "Theâ€" 13“ Water rate for grain from Chicago to Montreal was 23 oengs gel: to_n mus. pool via Midlagd {and Montreal than The figures for 1903 quoted by Mr. K. W. Blackwell in his address as President of the Canadian Society of Civil Engineers which are no doubt before you, show as follows:â€" The Lake and rail rate for grain from Chicago to Montreal via. Canada Atlantic Railway was .21 cents Len ton mile. it is via New York. THE REPLY. I ; booka'bn la scaly. r’ . idland to raid-based on (the [.actunl tunic on the‘Erie {Gunmt {mm } Buffalo to New York. as {per .authen- «magma Bland” t4) ‘Montml. Itho latter at W'hmfly {all a na- tural opgfiuterway. fit 1 beat per bushel; which we hm the mutual predodeut for an hmt freight tube that on bounds. 1nd n‘o lithe: mum am or mhjho'wn mm m.flfim 0! thunk: ma “fink“!!! u. m.;-‘II-=;€v-°d mm “MW. in In More at '65 “kw v "V mu. ‘ Margy; tar tomes. flakes an! 'Erid‘Onnal, the Lakes and Wetland Canal. and‘ the Trent Natural Water’route. I find M the lowest poasibh (Nights, tall at which are confirmed by actual transactions by extrt large positive operations to be one cent (per bushel trgIn'Fogâ€"t William to Midhnd.‘ at Which ribs :3 hair Mine (can be made. tad mm Mon coma] '11:: units to In gram!I by the ”cords FREIGHT RATm TRENT WATER ROUTE. beeg acoupbomed to looking after freight rmteniali my life :and I :have ougetnlly gone into the rates' of freight comm tge_gl§t;e‘root‘ M:- 20â€"Sir Wilfrid Laurier, lately in Montreal, admitted the export trtde of the Dominion for 1903 was about $211,000,000 and United States $1,350,- 000,000, practically six times ‘more than Canada’s e'xpont trade, and Ithe American. business men are anxious to ship by the Wt ‘rmfite. Cana- dian or American, go the' large European popumtign.” . ___ 'r'V’v Trustixg. y.ou will find some of them main points of use, in' discuss. in: the matter batons committee. at lSâ€"Mr. K. W. Blackwell, President of Canadian Society of Civil Engi- neers in his annual address January 27th. 1904, quoted figures to show differeme in rates between all trail. !a.ke and rail inland water 'and ocean rates. Them stood in point of ques. tion. ocean rates first, inland 'yater second, and lake and rail third. while ell-rail route for equal distances Iwas upwards of twice as expensive 113 in. land Water rates. 19â€"Everyone should insist on it be. ing completed at once. eimhen by the Government or private enterprise and so get absolute results almost 17â€"Would the Government sell the Trent Canal, positively knowing these practical facts? It not, why not complete 'it at once. take the trade and save money ;to ‘all? Two years. properly handled in n vbusiuess way, will complete it and see 'it started in qpermtion to earn. 'money and be a permanent and everlasting public benefit. This same argument applies wuh much more force from Midland .tc Montrml, 1110 balana: 01' the 'only shortest and direct waterway by Trent Canal. and every practical vbusi. nos man and the best 'railway men must and do admit it. These are sat. fica'ent facts and beyond dispute. lGâ€"Sir Thomas ShaughmsSy. Pres- ident of Canadian Pacific Railway. fin his speech betcre the Canadian (Club. Toronto. January 20th, 1904, on traffic from the west to ‘thc At- lantic said. "Waterways are the key of our transportation. Wheat or flour or anything else in the matter of coarse products can. ’ be carried by water at one-quarter the cost from Fort \Viliiam {o -Midl:md or to North Bay that it will cost to carry the same "traffic: 'neurly 500 miles over the raiLway. Now what sane man.” said Sir Thomas, ”will as- sert with that enormous difference in cost ~against. rail transportation. we should neglect our waterways. ‘-â€"Unlixnited European market- und population a: com-and ot unort- er and cheaper route; else uninit- ed raw material to (WM. 5â€"One hundred million voted by New. York state to flame «Erie Out- 31 new: three Minn whu‘ .a yen :intereat and the ‘Wtfl (or ‘3]!- proving the Erie anal apply ( more (orcibly to the very much nohezper end Mr route of Trent canal ocean. or large lake-going vessels. This is the practical decision 'arrived flat by New. York State ’in voting one hundred million dollars to enlarge Erie Canal. and they are only sound business arguments that cannot be disputed. v lsâ€"Barges with independent pro- pelling power can easily be: used for loicai trade some and coming and the whole length of canal and ‘St. Law- rence rouvte. stopping at any tand all towns and yillagea. afterwards join- ing through towing fleets. l4â€"Safety of Trent Canal is‘usured as it is uall inland 'waters from Mid- land on the Georgian Bay 'to Mon- treal or Quebec, and no objections to open lake same as Erie Cant! had in discussing advantages thdt might be had in. their using Lake Ontario. lSâ€"Ample water reservoir: are at the command of Trent Gum! u can be shown by Enginoeu’ mporta ' und pmctioal Moons men's (mentions. 'lzâ€"Ship cam! is out of: ‘the ques- tion on account of the great expense of the large ocean or 'm-ke steamers and the slow speed they 'would have to travel at an inland ‘watere and can-nus and 'the abaolwte necessity of deepening harbors on lake for Tneut Canal when caught“ on fac- oount of its shortness and cheap carrying capacity to large European markets and could be absolutely acou- tracted. for when canal is (completed fun spite of anything that can be done by any other note. A llâ€"The who-1e American and Cann- dien. grain trade ndjaoeat to - Great Lakes Would boIat ruhe mud of V Bâ€"TfeEt Canal barge _cnpaci-ty. cap]: barge 55.000 bushels. and ‘cnn immune or dqu'ble can“ if Iwanted. 7â€"The moat moat barges carefully figured out for cheapest carry-inc capacity of {Erie Canal «have n capacity at about 33.333 ' buabekl each barge. 9â€"Abou't four million dollars now lnvcsted by bath Ccnadinn Govern- ments‘in Tran-t Canal mammooo a year 10$ tt-izll canal ‘is completed. . now utmost c Gâ€"‘l‘rent Gaul route some 1,454 milcss r to Liverpool and ' re- turn and nropean mrkets than Erie Canal. and over 500 has short- er than our present St. I Lawmnee canals that. aovuuly captured mgood part. at the American trade ' this year. 1903. min and has” tunic tnda adju- 10â€"Abiiit‘1 1-2 to 5 minim "dol- lars will! complete Tm: Oan_aI._! out hosts-t Lcken. um'IQQ'W will tally occupy tin reilw id! to team“. In W a I“. rm. but. LI NDSAY, ONT. ’ Viz-y” magi?” was nut pm “I “apart-non cum mm “mm by Resolved further. in the opinion of this Board of Trade. that the com. pletion of this amt work will alone solve about I]! the dittioulties 3n the'adjpstmont of gailwny tnightl which now'hurgbn the mputucturen of this notion of the Minionâ€"Our- Resolved further. that the comple- tion_.ot the Trent waterway will add material prosperity to every cn'ty, town and village in centul'Ontax-io. by, lowering freight rats: on coal. grain, wopd and all manufactumd manna and wiltprm an immense n to the tanning community. by aflordi march-ed facilities {or the ship‘ at mrythim the farmer hu to null and but prices on cmry- “308 be '3"! 51W: .. . . - Therefore. be it resolved by the Board of Trade of the Town of Peter- borough. that the Trent Waterway from Georgian Bay to Lake Ontario. with its great uretchea at open wa- ter and short sections of canal, which can be navigated at [our times the speed by barges of four times the capacity of those now in use on the Erie Canal. otters to the people of Gunadu. a magnificent national roun- to the sea board. and the only means of maintaining and greatly extend- ing the minnow of Canadian )Iptttl. no withstan ' the ccmpctmon fihich will be rnished by the agar [.000 ton barge canal from Lake Erie to‘ the Hudson River. And whereas. recognizing this fact the peOple of the State of New .York throwing aside the pro) udices of party politics, have on tJ-III 3rd day of November, 1903, voted the Ielx'aen- diture of 101 millions of dva-u-s for the enlargement and. development of the Erie Canal for the purpose of re- covering. If iblc. t‘ue commence now being iverted to the St. Law- rence and Gulf of Mexico. And, whereas, owing to the wise policy of the governments of Canada the canals of the River St. Lawrence have been enlarged and deepenedwo as to divert Lo Canadian ports a large amount. of commerce that would oth- orwisc have gone to the port of New York. Whereas the commercial supremacy of the State of New York has been ascribed by all classes of the people of that State to the construe-tion and operation of the Erie Cami. Mr Dennistoun moved, And Mr. 1’. Campbell seconded. the following resolution:â€" I am intorxned on good authority that coal has sold for one dollar less in Ottawa than in l’eterborougli and the reason is that they have the Rideau Canal , therefore if we had our Trent Canal open our citizens would save about $37,000 per year su-d m addition to this then: is any quan- tity of good fire wood around our lakes which can not be brought down in sufficient quantity to reduce the price. until the Canal is open to navi- gation. I will close by quoting the following resolution which was passcd at the last meeting of the Board of Trade:â€" Second. tuel.â€"We have a [Opulation of over 14.000 and the private consum- ption of hard and soft coal per year. as nearly as I can make out is 2.5.000 tons, ’while our factories use about 2.000 tons. total 37,000 tons. 5 per bent. to 10 per mm. higher rates on a haul almost fifty per mm. larger. and this is a discrimination which can only be overcome by the opening of ‘nnvigation on the Trent Valle yW-zgtcgway, Hamilton is distant from Montreal 408 miles and J’cterborough 258 miles. yet Hamilton winter rates to Mont- real are only 10 per cent. higher than Petcrborough winter rates. while the summer rates make the matter worse as against Peterborough for they are only 5 per cent. higher than Peter- borough’a summer rates. In other words Hamilton has only to my from on a level with any. Hamilton. with regard to freight charges, and one exgmplc will suffice to show this. Last year the mine of ‘thc output of our factories was over $7,500,000, and the total tonnage in and out on the railways was ave: 290.1th ions. 1; stands to reason therefore aim :nny- thing which wiil lower Imight char gee. will be of great. benefit 10 our ma'nufuctoxics and having wuuu- transpontatiou will have this effect. Our manqtacpqwra apprescm are no: First then with regard to freight charges. The Commission may not be. aware of the not that our town is growing in importance as a manufac- turing town. This ia owing first to natuml advantages in the way of chem: power and second. to good transportation facilities. having both L119 C.P.R. and 6.111%. systems. As representing the Board of Trade. I have been asked to state whmt ut- tect the opening of the Twin Valley Waterway to navigation from Tron- ton to Midland would have on Peter- borough. I could say much every way but. as a great deal of evidence has to be digested by the Commission. 1 think it betas: to be brie! and will therefore confine my remarks to two mints. "Freight Charge»? and FE“ The local Macs: and the large water powers and ctcndy manufac- turing buainecs during the long 'wlln- Ler months had the employment ‘of labor and inc-mane oi population |dur- ing the full year. although of such enormous importance are compara- tively mall conparcd with like 'in- tor-national importance of the great ohoap. abort diatom. only water highway which absolutely must ‘00::- try! the grain and hcnvy' merchan- dise of both continents. Yours truly. ($40 D. IGILMOUR. Pres. Treat Water Cons. Assoc. EFFECT ON PETERBOROI 'G H. Mr. H ugh-Charles. Pmsidcut of the Board of Trade. presented the follow- ing evidence with regard to ‘Freight Charges and Fuel." as altccting the town of Pcterborough ;â€" Maul. w m were let for only gain delivery at n through -rnl.e. Port Arthur to Round. 08-4 cells. which would hm n margin 01 pmdutotlumourym u 2 cents per MI by Item. , Woter route. Wheat m eotull; pneu- cal Manes ”hots are required" to chow that the Trent voter" mute moat MM control :11 the groin. and hen'vy tunic between lthe great ldeeinhoththeetutee and Conodn. and Winn we [wk beck at Mute m of the MIR-teen or twenty you-e nnd more. go tar as the States is oonoernu'l. this enor- mous truth} has been. going. {on con- tinually mud nlwnya been 1.: 'our com- mrfl an it in (0-day. if we only expeul the Initial! dollars end com- plete the Trent water town: «and be orepnred (or the present nod ‘(uture Oeudinn tattle to come when «to populations can in to ‘tiu ‘ the land. W-hat homer neurones do we want in the Briti‘: and-'Europotn market: «than n Braid! prretereooe that we can control and 'ootnlnnnd. and Britain and Europe will get the cheap bread 5nd raw manufactured materials they nre no olamourinc for. This one (not alone will do more to carry out Bight Hon. - Joseph Chamberlain's policy than anything else we can suggest. and ‘we have it in our control and fit can be put in oper‘a'tion in 'two years 'if taken hold of at once in‘ ‘a bamboo: Away. M .tnicht rate of 2 pr boils]. Pom Arthur «.0 Mr. R. B. Rogers Md cit that his instructions were .t. give the remainder at the “nth: depth of 8 feet '4 inches. The mks already build could be «any Med by the construction of a nun addition. Mr. 318761” W11“: he had bun coins on the 50¢,"th the can- :I mid Minn . ‘ . LIN DSAY’S CASE. ‘ Mr. Thus. Stewart! of Lindsay, was called to give evidence. The man: ob- ject of the @putatlon from that ’town was 'to impress the importance tot the completion of the canal in the interests u Caged: and of many fn- stitntionn. concerned. He read state. menu from Mr. Flavelle. repre- senting e milling company, and Dan- du ta. menu. 8:03.. from R. Sylves- ter. nepmtlw the Sylvester Munutnoturll“ 06.. Iran Baht. Ken- nedy” “flat at ~the Ken- nody. th'mmn‘ 00,. end than Alex. Horn. m1- ‘1 Born Bree. woollen new who stated that the Pmtlmlrates made it impossible forth. an use North- west wool. th~ other: claimed gmt benefit in th-‘ induction of freight tubes. mt‘wwld result tree: the gagghflon’ilthe angel. 4 7 â€"â€" â€" .v‘l.‘ age. or 44 locks. at 1 1-2 hours per lock on the Trent Cami. with 35 hours 0! river and bite mvigation, or 211 miles at six milen_ per hour. and making other allowances, the time taken to go through the gnu] would be me 104 1-2 hoursâ€"from Midland to Trenton. Capt. VanAlstine. of Irenton, pre- seated at sutcment inhmating that there woqlq be yomc fifihpuu' lock- Mr. John Carnegie. Who has 21- ways tnken a great deal of inter- est in the canal. produced a” pam- phlet which had been prepared with a View to description and object of the Trent Canal. He stated that he would be pleased to submit further evidence later on. ’ r"'"l 0! 20.000 bushels, and two tows carry- mg 25,000 bushels. it would be pos- slble to make between Midland and Montreal two trips 3 month. prob- ably 2 1-2. and that at a} two cent rate or 2 1-2 cents.J with terminal charges at Montreal: The statement was on the calculation that the urges return light. not be more profitable to bring the train to Montreal and ‘mill it there. rather than in Peterbomugh. Mr. Stuart said it did nOt t' ure out that way. To transfer mm the mails to the steamers would be con- ddernbly more expensive than to transfer‘tran barges to steamers. Mr. L. Richards, traffic manager of we Cereal Company. submitted an unportant proposition. With a noel ate-am barge having a capacity .- 380M L__AL_‘, , J Mr. BJOtd asked Mr. Stuart what he expected or the Trent Ca- a“. to which that gentleman re- ullcd that it ,was expected to st0p the wheat and mill it here, and to ship the product to Montreal atfiour cunts a hundred. The cost from Kingston to Montreal, not including elevator charges. would be 1 1-2 cents, 'anfl thg rate from Georgian Bav to Kingston would be 'another cont. Mr. Retord asked if it would Goods. for the want: of the farmers m the North-West should be large- ly manufactured in Ontario. and to this end cheap transportation 'is noocsuary. This would also help the Canwian North-West ongooda in: oortou via Montreal. ‘ With the present rapid progress of the Canadian North-West. I feel certain that the Ontario waterways cannot be improved raliidly enough to take care of the products or the country named. and in addition feel that Montreal is the natural Outlet tor the entire Upper Lake District From information at hand.I am sat- isfied grain can be [hailed from Mid- land to Montreal at from 2. per cent. to 2 1-2 per cent. per busnel. with decreasing rate as west-bound tonnage developes. What we want and what the country needs is the rapid opening of all the waterways nvailable. “About two years ago a mum.“ company in Liverpool bum a large mill at Blrkenhead. across the river from Liverpool. Said mill has been very protltahle. and they are. I un- nerstand. at preocnt doubling the cupncltv. and they are also consider- ing the erection of mills at other non ports in Great Britain. Those located in British sen ,ports have the advantage at low rates on grains with which manu- facturers on this side are obliged to compete. With the Trent Valley Conn! open. I am mtisfied. utter careful enquiry. that we can move wheat from Midland to Peter- borough. the cargo here to be trus- lerred from Wheat to flour, and the flour delivered to steamers In Montreal. at 1 cost which will en-g able this competition to he met.‘ l feel that it will be generally ad- mitted that it is clenrly in the inter- ent of. this country that the grain should he milled here. Our Com- pany having their own ottices in London. Liverpool. Glasgow add Rot- terdnln. can all on as favorable terms as the representatives of local mills. try at (the name tune. We'teel. mom peruouurty now the 31““! mining pomt 01 new. bung more 4“, mum wuh that than anytmng etseq Our Company us “ready spent .50“.- moo m the omeuon 9: an “we!“ milling plant m thus any. and $00!“ swupoum in the emctton o: a no“: dam and power house. and are mudy‘ to spend as mucn more 1:: the erec- tion of flour .muts as soon as we can nee our way to cleaver the produfl in British and other (emu 8“ ports. at a rate at freight costing not more than about 2 per cent Kr. Robert Stuart”)! the Anetta“: 00m! 00.. whoa: summon; fll "'2 (chow; ;- ’ Uhtirmnn Royal Communion °" Trunporuuou: .‘ Dear arr-Speaking canneifl'n’f comm-mug the early communal: 01, cm Tram: Vino: cum. Would 3“” ma: 1 bub": n. wnl do not 03-: nub Whit the flue Canal but me to: the acute 01 130W 10“, 3M“! magnum the railway» an own- per 100 over the rate on what. Min- neapolis. on you one aware. has for may yenrs peen the amt flour milling oentm ot‘ the Unltcil States North-West. but the raising 0! hard“ spring Wheat in helm; rapidly di- verted to the Canadian North-West. Recognizing this not. the Wash- burn Flour Milling 00.. of Minneapolis. is at present erecting a large tlour mill in Buffalo. enabling them to mill Canadian Northwestern wheat tor export. This insures than low water rates to Buffalo and low rail or canal rates to the seaboard. ivri‘i‘libfpiroebéui 3 why howcm. Han- ututum‘a Matias. a our om- ! on» bulk “a mu {mm mi» km '0: _ Mr. Ritchie pointed out that muni- fcipalitics along the route wow a!- ways strongly.g in ("or of at. but its .-m\‘nt national importance had not been fully "winked. EDUCATE THE PUBLIC- , Mr. R. )1. Don ‘Itoun ‘ fated out {5% am“ Jam“ ‘° W O “a m. in. hmdtkoml. fireworks! Tau-gin: it. Won but Mll_ don - Mr. Bertram replied that the re- pmeentutéwn had shown such grasp of the situation that he did not think it necessary to dictate as to the manner in which evidence should be submitted. BELLEVILLE’S ARGLMENTS. Mayor Chown of llelleville. stated that he had no particular information to give. but he could well understand where the canal would be of value as iffording solution to the freight pro- blem. The boat rate between Belle- ville and Montreal for general freight was 17 to 19 cents a hundred, while by rail it was 26 cents tor earload and for third class stuff from 20 to 22 cents. The completion of the canal would permit the development eta. large amount of power. Mr. Ritchie, representing Belleville Board of Trade. spoke of the impat- twee of the canal from a military mount of View as well an on- the gen- eral gamete. The Government and commuted itself to the canal. end he ‘held that “it the people of the event :were conversant with its importance. .they would long ago have tuned its lwmletion. flis opinion Wu that. lthe style of barges to be land on the canal could not with cafety ntflga‘te iopen water. and hence the promoted ;outlet through the Bay of Quinte :wg the proper one. "nuâ€"f I | Mr. Bertram stated that the Com- ‘miuiou were bound to take intocon- isiderntiou the value of the canal from ya business point of View. He would like to know why. in View of the un- animous feeling in ("or of the water» way. it land not long ago been con- “Spa-m, _ A A , Mr. Ritchie’s orfinion was that the politicians might answer that ques- tion. There wax- no {11.9th ream from a business point of View, why it hu_d_ not been completed. Mr. Ber-train Vas'k'éa for reasons why the Government had not gone on with the canal. Mr. Culverweli suggested that evi- dence and: as that given by Mr. Smith be submitted [ram all at me munici- pa‘lgties. it could be easily seen that the nav- ‘ ing would be considerable. The exports iand imports of Campbellford amount- ed to 36,335 tons. or 2.316 cars. He agreed that there was great necaasitv for the completion of the Trent Can- al. In reply to Mr. Bertram he stated that the municipalities would be willing to give a bonus. the same as to a railway it the Government went on and completed the canpl._ Mr. Graham remarked that the figures were apprommate. Coal sold at 87.50 a ton in Lindsay and the dealers said they mod. no money at that. CAMPBELLFORD’S CLAIMS. Mr. Charles Smith. President of the Calflplxellfurd Board of Trade, was next called uron. They of that place thought the canal should not be di- verted from the natural course by the Trent River. From Heeley's Falls to Percy Boom. below Campbellford. there were 235 feet; (all. From Chis- holm‘s falls to Myersbux-g. there were several miles of canal already built. The village had large manufacturing concerns and had been in a bad way this winter on account of scarcity of power. Mr. Smith mad :1 msolution passed by the Board of Trade, draw- ing the attention of the Transporta- tiou Commission to the necessity of completion of the canal and that by the way of Trenton. A similar reso- lution had been passed by the Town Council. Mr. Smith gave figures ne- lative to the business carried on by the industries of Gampbcllford. He himself is a miller and he said that the freight rate from Midland to that place was 6c. a hundred and 13 cents a hundred from thence to Montreal. If the canal were in operation and a rate_o£ sawaour cents available, Mr. A. H. Ryder gave evndenoe with reference to the Excelsior business. Many enquiries were received from the Old Country in regard to this product of basswood. used for pack- ing and upholstering, but on account of railroad charges. a. market at my distance could not be reached. Mr. S. C. Taylor suit: he had one opinion. and that was that the canal mould should be unmedistely pom- leted. had figured “it out left room for wry, little doubt. One of the most annulus arguments. he said. was an} of amlqy. Mr. J. H. Sootheran stated that if the Commission were so inclined. they should meet in Lindsay. Where turfhcr evidence could be given. is he could. the [pct that the county was greatly interested in the panal. There were 12,000 tons of coal burnt in the county, where, on account of freight rates. the price wan from $1. 00 to $1.25 per ton in excess 0! wh 1t it would be if there was water transportation. Ilr. Richard Sylvester stated that he had great faith in the value at the canal to the omntry. and that he concurred in the evidence submit. fed. 'His firm had an extensive busi- ng. in the Northwest. He could readin understand that the canal. it operated. would reduce the height rates. and hence. while he would not dfip goods by Water. [or the reason that the breaking or shipment was not desired. there would .be quite a benefit in the reduction 'of (reight rate-s. Mr. Bertramâ€"It only costs a dol- lag: fro_m file Bridge to Lindsay. Mr. Robert Kennedy said he had not prepared any concise statement with regard 'to local business. The Rathbun Co. was interested in navi- zation. and what. was very important was that there should be facility [or bringing raw material to dittenent factories along 'the Trent Valley “Item. [1 the latter \u-re Qpenea it would effect the rates to the bene- fit of the shipper, and mu. Ely to the miner. and Mt. .iu-n- mdy stated that the reduction in some canes would be fully one- third. There Were industries. such as the manufacture of lime. which re- quired just such encouragement as better facilities {or shipping. He was satisfied that the country was in need of the canal. In reply to Mr. Retard, who asked; “Do you use coal in Lindsay!" Mr. Kennedy re- plied. “We use 10,000 tons of coal per year in Lindsay [or general and do- mestic purposes." He was of Opinion that it would be possible to bring soul into Lindsay from Oswego at a saving of 50 cents a ton: There Was a. very large quantity of hardwood in the north (ountry which, adjacent to the. canal, would be imâ€" mediately and quite easily available for the market. Mr. Graham. -mpreaentigg W'Vic- toria County Council. said he spoke as g {aruggr and “Lo impress, as far