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Watchman Warder (1899), 20 Jun 1901, p. 2

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Eéim mum wm ASK s: m IOWNSHIPS 10 {Ohm scussion of the Government’s Offer For a General Di Aid for Making Roads. W111 ch;g~.v ..__ , The 1-311in men were present follow up their request for aid at Cowan's bridge. They reâ€"stated their contention of the forenoon; the en- gineer had estimated the cost of the 10 8:)in em ‘MO[ 001 saqoeoxdde steel had advanced and whereas it ted the bridge would cost $3000 it had cost more than $5000. A bridge of such length and a swing had been made necessary by the government when the water was dammed back at Buckhorn to make a. wide marsh and a navigable stream. It shoulh be a gavernment bridge but is not. A grant of $1500: had been got from the Dominion government and $300 from that of Ontario. Last year when it was supposed that the cost would be. $3000 the county council had voted $7100; now that it was costing 85000 the deputation would ask .for an- other 3400. Coun. Shaverâ€"The bridge is not t o stream. 11'. snuulu .. bridge but is not. A had been got fro: government and $30 Ontario. Last year supposed that the Vvuv. v--- Coun. Shaverâ€"The bridge is not in our jurisdiction and we could be restrained from making any grant.‘ Moreover I have the report showing the amounts paid for roads and bridges by the different townships in the last ten years. These sums inâ€" clude statute labor. Mariposa has spent $59000, Ops $62000, V’Culam “O But what, I Want to show you is that Emily has not been burdened with taxes for roads and bridges. Would it be fair to tax Ops which paid 862000 for roads in the last 10 years, to pay for a bridge in Emily that. paid only $38,553? Ops has paid $9.43 per head and Emily only $4.43. and Ops makes roads: for all the other townships to use in coming to-Lindsay. Every other township has done more than Emily for roads. so there seems to be. no reason why the rest should be tax- ed to help Emily now. We gave $400 last year and it was not legal then. I shall oppose doing the same thing this year. 1" ls 91-.. own municipal council. Coun. Shaverâ€"It is though, why she can pa for this bridge,. Coun. Adamsâ€"4W3 are not ‘so wqal- thy as some others. Cnun. Shaverâ€"You are rated at $1,479,000, and Fenelon only $981,- Coun. Adams Iâ€"That is only the finding of the valuators. If the eq- ualization puts us higherâ€"â€" (f-ounShaverâ€"Yoii were rated high- er. before the equalization was made. 1 At Coun. Shaver's request the clerk read the opinion of Mr. F. D. Moore solic-itor for the county in 1895 as to the legality of granting money to municipalities for works Within their jurisdiction. On decisions in the case of Conger vs. Peterboro and inion that it was illegal. Coun. Fairbairnâ€"That law but you have not I in. Year after year yo1 making grants to tO‘ now you make a deagl one. M‘ 1 auu “-v-‘_, the other comprised of Graham and Reeve sully. Emily who asked for $400 to pay for the new iron nown as Cowan's bridge. .TnHue‘h also spoke in that $50 was made een Garden am .ilar expenditure .mrio. Coun. E ou have not been keeping after year you have been :rants to townships and make a dead set against -11; is a. reason, can pay more now may be the Coun. Shaverâ€"That is that got the largest grant gyear. i Moved by Coun. Shaver, Moved by Coun. Fairbairn, second- ed by Coun Robertson that a grant of $400 be made. Moved by Coun. Bryans, no secondâ€" er that 3100 be granted. Warden Grahamâ€"I do not stick at the legal decisions. I have always stretched a point in cases of need. I did not oppose the grant last year but was not greatly in favor of it. Coun. Shaver has taken an unansw- erable position on this grant. Ops has practically the same assessment as Emily and yet has spent nearly 50 per cent. more on roads in the last 10 years. It is not a fair thing to ask Ops to help Emily now. Coun. Fairbairnâ€"I admire the man who diiiers from me; but I do also admire my own opinion. Appeal and sophistry are used in behalf of Ops and Emily; but men who represent these townships are in favor of the grant. hence the contention of its opponents falls to the ground, as far -h .w h: honi on pity for Ops and as it is based on pity \‘erulam. Coun.Stabackâ€"â€"Take every case on its merits. I would not be bound to a. cast, iron rule even by the law. If it, can be shown that, a township is burdened, help it (Mr. Sonnyâ€"Hear, hear). But. it has not been shown in this case. When I fovored the grant last year I did not imagine we should be asked to duplicate it this year. Emily is not burdened. She has no railway debt and the re- port of expenditures shows her tax- es for roads to be very low. Eldon pays $2000 a year on a. railway debt. When that has been all paid. we shall continue to raise the same1 amount of hues and apply the $2000 to our roads and we will not come here to ask for money. (.‘oun. Adamsâ€"Emily is burdened by a bridge that she never should haw: been required to build. If the water had not been dammed back a. $700 bridge would have done. The government raised the water and compelled us to make a. $5000 bridge If we want to spend less on our roads than some others, that is our business. Coun. Robertsonâ€"When a grant of $400 was made the cost was set at $3000. Now it is $5000: we should make another grant in proportion to the increase. It may not; be legal but it is customary. Mr. Bryansâ€"Ops spends more than any other township on roads’accord- ing to her assessment; but this is a. heavy burden on Emily. I opposed the $700 asked last year but favorâ€" ed 3400; now I favor giving $100 more . Reeve Boats -â€" If Emily chose to make her roads do with little. money that is her own affair. Mr. Scully-â€"We have not asked many grants. We came back again this year because we do not, think we got, what we should have last year. We deserve it. Don't, vote us {$100. The bridge is paid for but 1r we are in debt. You have a right to give us 25 per cent. of the cost outside of other grants. Coun. Shamrâ€"Mariposa puts near- ly twice as much on the roads and has not asked help in nine years. >un. Shaver, seconded that no action be takâ€" on this grant. Ops‘ the same assessment yet has spent nearly me on roads in the It is not a fair thing 191p Emily now. rnâ€"I admire the man .11 me; but I do also “fininn Anneal and lcil will be Asked Road System is Discuss the Whole L has been all paid. ». to raise the same .1 and apply the Q2000 d we will not come .the 0110 made last your rate up to wnw. L is and you will pay for ' a. year. Mr. Scullyâ€"â€"-Oh yes, bx where that comes in. Coun. J ohnstonâ€"â€"-It. is jwhj; Ops should not» I lElnily. Mr. Shaver's motion be made Was carried Peterboro will be again asked to Help in its Construction. Our readers will remember that a a herd of cattle went ge over Burnt river The structure was repaired but a new Who shall year ago through the brid 1at Kinmount. temporarily bridge must be built. build it is the question. It is on a road that was made by the Ontario government years ago. No procla- mation releasing it from that con- trol has ever been issued but govern- ment claims that the same thing is true of many roads that are to-day leading highways under control of municipalities through which they pass. Hence government disclaims responsibility for this bridge. It is on a road that is in lieu of a bound- ary between Peterboro and Victoria but since this road is not on the actual boundary at this point nor rc- turns to it north of the bridge. Pet- erboro disclaims any share of respon- ‘sibility. Victoria county holds that e since no proclamation was made makâ€" ing it a county road she has not con- trol. Somervillc, the township in V1, LI ‘1‘. I-'\r..--_ , which the bridge is located holds that, it is a bridge on a road beâ€" tween counties and is home not, in her charge. That, township lost a suit against Victoria and Potcrlmrc that it is a bridge on a road beâ€" txxeen counties and is hence not in her charge. That township lost a suit against \ictoria and Peterboro to compel them to maintain it some means ago. From the foregoing our readers will see the tangle. Mr. Justice Meredith gave a deci- sion that the provincial gox ernment is responsible since no proclamation releasing it. has ever been made. This decision the government calls “ab- surd.” It, however, made a grant of $1000 or half the estimated price of the new bridge. Conn. J ohnstonâ€"The law stands against the govern: ding its- disclaimer. The clerkâ€"Other judges have conâ€" curred with Justice Meredith. The clerk then read his letter to‘ the. government in which he cited the 1 demsions that held the government to be responsible in such cases and explained that to the deputation of the warden and councillors who ob- tained the grant, Hon. Mr. Stratton had said it would be as well to say the road from Port Hope to Peter- boro was a. government road be- ‘cause it had never been proclaimed otherWise as to say that this road is. THE KINMOUNT BRIDGE Aw- Coun. Shaverâ€"Likely it would be called a government road if there was a lawsuit over it. The govern- ment makes a law saying that roads made by it pass under other juris- diction by proclamation and then says a judge is- absurd tit-cause he holds. that a. road which has never! been proclaimed is still theirs. Coun. Austinâ€"We had better not throw the matter over for it might not be easy to get the $1000 revetâ€" ed. Somerville “ill pay wimt it costs over $2000. We have an ofier of the bridge itself for $1250 that is $10 per foot for 125 feet. The masâ€" onry etc., could be done for the bal- ance, I think. paired and cleaned. The short space in which those 1p to what the Ops rate will pay for the bridge in little tle id ,_.‘~\n Oh yes, but I don‘t see motion that no grant carried by a Vote _of government notwithstan- -It is an argument. not» be taxed- for : :.l'.n.h..1u in tle i083 UL buy _-_ , ‘ Considered at a. night segâ€" pcrature with the rs which appear in‘ of type occupied an- '« . of two or three hues as many hours of perspirmg time. It is by ““311 duties that councillors cir pay and newspaper repor- ‘carn th driven to lemonade. tors are / ms Can be recorded gives lit- sh 4 to little ite in tle idea. of the labor they put up on nsidercd at a night 505- se council. Co see sion and high temperature with the co different requirements given in minâ€" ant. ute detail by the representatives of a 'y’a loose bolt or a m for ‘hollow cedar 10g has to be describ- \\ ant edâ€"-these matters which appear in S1 two or three vpe occupied THE COUNTY ROADS SYSTEM scheme is adopted. They wil have a government engineer spect' the work. «- n4_ It has been found m Luc ‘ a. county or larger scheme able for economy. I hope in some way get into cc with the men of the towns ciis and hrrange some 1310 (U u..-“ _ - Coun. Shaverâ€"The thwnnhips U111: k that if they go Into .1. alone, mh 11 ill have. the whole amount, to sptnd within its boun-lur es whereas in a county scheme some 111ig31tget more road made and others less than their contribution “111: ll warrant “arden Graham-«That objection might be heard in some tov. nships that are. not in s3 mpathy \\ 1th the necessities of other townships but when Ops rejects the scheme it is a. surprise. Com. Shaverâ€"We had better have an extra session and talk it all over with members of the. township coun- cils. Coun. Grahamâ€"If the government’s oficr is not accepted by a consider- able number of counties the money will be distributed among those that . The clerkâ€"The act provides that 111 any county system the mileage to be built shall be apportioned ahong the tnwnships according to their area. found in the States that larger scheme is advis- does not take any township and send delegates to confer county. Uoun. Shaverâ€"Perhaps some 01 uu: might; go to the township councils and ask for deputations. When these councils condemned the scheme it, was not well understood. Warden Grahamâ€"~A county scheme pvill secure a, far larger assessmenl lfifor the purpose than if the town ships take it up independently. Th ~ MAI- 117:1 councillors OUDW nuu «~â€" 7 , 7 I Vhen these councils condemned the $1660. 't, was not well understood. Com. Baumâ€"$1760, 1 when“:i 1n Graham’A county scheme Com. Shaverâ€"Oh I “might . w‘iffrseiure a. far larger assessment was $1650: 1'? milk? it $1700 “I; go;- the purpose than if the town- Com, VFaxrflbatrnâ€"I think it a ships take it, up independently. Tnc beticr' be l‘pn m, $12300. I would. town and incorporated villages “”11 gladkV “Naif fâ€"OOO but' ‘5! be included in a county assessment want 11.101}- v..;«,.¢ nun come again, ‘ ' That will make a difference of The $1600 mes voted to be Man 0 000,000 of assessment. ff- in the hands 01 11w Tm’ViSiOnalM .xf 1‘;rnl-rrurc in” L (0....2 . 'vg.’ i that. We do not ask them to ac- cept any scheme, see if together vantage of the government’s ofl'er and on the best terms. Let Mr. Camp» bell be here and make it so ‘ that we shall either accept or reject it. He is an outsider and cannot be suspected of having any preference for township or county. ‘ Coun. Stabackâ€"â€"-We shoul to say what mileage wou township get. The clerkâ€"Taking the price as $1.- 000 a mile we should build 70 miles. Warden Grahamâ€"We can do it for we cannot take ad- d be able ld each less. Coun. Shaverâ€"No. Warden Graham - roads do not need 5 them. Coun. Austinâ€"We 000 on any mile in Warden Grahamâ€"â€" paving money for older parts have bu 1to build them and build them in New 300 on any mile in Somerville. Warden Grahamâ€"”rho province is paying money for railways. The older parts have burdened themselves to build them and will still pay to build them in New Ontario. Now we have a chance to get 31.000000 of provincial funds. If we take it, it will be spent elsewhere and we can find no fault. ' It, was decided that, the county councillors should attend the meet- ing of their respective township coun- ‘cils with the warden and ask for delegations from them to a speciali meeting of the county council to be held at the call of the warden. Mr. Sam. Fox asked council to vote help to Garden on account of smallpox outbreak. The East Victoria. Women's Insti- tute was voted $10. uuwv v-w Several bills came in from the Home for the Aged. Warden G ra- ham remarked that. large bills should not be incurred for county payment Without. authority. True it is in the town but will be no benefit to it more than to other parts of the county unless by giving work to men during construction. Hence the county seems to be, legal- ly and on grounds of equity. justified in helping. The town engineer's es- timate of the cost, of the sewer and cellar drain from Albert-st. up to the site is $1760. This hosle will be for the benefit especially of the poor. The rich can always get. to hospitals or get superior care but the poor will be benelibted by this as well as the rich. Com. Staback â€"- Will county pat- ients stand in the same relation to it as those of the town ? Mr. Flavelleâ€"Yes. F. C. Taylorâ€"Some of us have had the hospital scheme on our minds for some years. In reports of other hos- pitals we find that county councils have at the outset contributed more than we are asking for. Nearly $10,- 000 has been subscribed, mostly by town people for an endowment. The value of an hospital to the people of the county and perhaps to some of oursvlves, can not be estimated. Com. Baileyâ€"Will poor people from the township be taken in free ? Mr. Flavelleâ€"-â€"If sent by the town- ship they will be gi‘en a Special low rate that, the township will pay. People able to pay will of course feel hono} bound to do so. The vClerkâ€"ZBerlin and its cnunty gives $1000 each a year to the hos- Dital and get their poor nursed free. Mr. Flavelleâ€"-Mr. Goldie of Guelph Was in town toâ€"day. ll" saw: U13 County glVeS $1500 :1 \(u!‘ and 1:01? its poor attended free. 190 mars arc “Icy, that Mr. Goldie says 1he has;â€" Pital would make far more by chargâ€" Lham -â€"-â€"- Many of the need $1000 a mile on THE WATCHMAN-WARDER. JUNE 90th Hospital sewer v'e do not need $1,.- of the ing the usual rate. Com. Shaverâ€"I move be voted- Mariposa win worth her share of that Com. Bryansâ€"I was , The $1600 was voted tot; in the hands oi me provisiom of directors for hospital I] That. Board is: Messrs: J, velle, F. C. Taylor, T. Sta}; Graham and J. R. McNeiuie Mr. Austin's Bridge 11. Conn. Austin's motion ah Com. Shaverâ€"The That motion was laid over (“I January sesqion. Mr. Am clared that many bridges that] been always kept up by town are. under the present by-law,“ charges on tho“ County and are! ually being pm upon it. Counu' feared the proposed change Won! crease the county‘s burden, an action was taken. (1)' That the county as bridges in the county township boundaries, a: feet and over. Inspector Short and Chief xeu' were proposml 10 m1 the posit” High County ('(‘mslable 13,qu pied by Thos. Bell. Chief“ was appointed. 2) That the county assun such boundary bridgex as feet long or over. The Board of )Ianagemaxtm Home for the Agvd asked font of $7000 inhout interest fut years to buy land and putupu building. (Tom. Bailey feud wuuld block the way of mm- Refuge which would soon be“ ‘ sity. for $100. Conn. Baileyâ€"Some of 013'] think these matches do notdo Vv..- Coun. Fairbax’rn-I won 5 p when a young man and one (H in Michigan. A farmer Ml not, delight in good plowing bl good farmer. I will give ya farm if you can find a thistleii plowed on my farm last (all. \ Coun. Shaverâ€"Our best fl are interested in this. Conn. Ans: in â€"â€" Move the I back north sometimes. The vote w.» made. X. and S. Victoriahgl'ii in Michigan. not delight ix good farmer. farm if You C Coun. Bryansâ€"That is true. No action was taken. The Plowmnn’s Association The Soldiers Uta: Trooper Menillvary of and Trooper “harlic Grail say Were accrvdited as cut county gram of $25 '1 ford applied but it was he received a : ' Col. Hughes \\ $100 or $150 to buy the men going to cam! Council went into con cuss it. Com. Bryans- work and go We should rec Our volunux-r: in South Air less than gran it be gixcn. Com. Adams good chum-w 10 L It will come bac’ No one has a gn‘ the gallantry of have, but if their could haw been s ly. There is goo those comforts things. The mon for things that 2 soldiers. 'l‘lzon- i cause of 111 people will enco they do in Burn the people to 51 ‘African. It wm acourage that spi‘. ing in pensions t‘ without consent 0h 0 V3.16 things are nee What, they are. a [id-ms ioun. AusUn $235 for helm nu if we dkl good. Com. Nevison County Com The Finance Committee The 1‘ Regi went, rx'an )1 roted to he. Pb = Provision} bu hospital “The Will get . 1901. of our The princess W wild with curiosit :kappene‘i “Oh, Jennie." 5 -the mine. and Wh‘ {flat m gate! a?! Motion. What is it ‘2" J “I am not goi Muse I am goil but. if you love1 fiat delicious ted “I shall order i will be served sh‘ - _ i going out :1 ans. 58" - “I really lanai '3'. not and at lost Grant fa‘ m m . '0“ .*r0 in this‘ ruDear prinCeSS, you are paying me in one afternoon 1 mystery that has talents of all the b (1-1.? I wish the c' and: faith in we a .1 And hasn't be, .5 the treasure di “The horrid m: husband Speak t this annoyance. ” “Oh, no, prin in the least: in f n One would t] ficion that I stole “A single word 31) all that. you “Yes, I know: “Now, Jennie. tdown here an few an need to tak {ger city than “1 El1811 be de '° teal But “ ’8 the carriage Very few min â€"We’11 both i '9 Prince is dil ‘11 some frieni triage and yo Eether. You 1 '12 Wherean “1 am going 306 Ben- Felt “Oh. I know imam he isx 1 9' If you w; 311:2: You had " expect 1; rm ““110 the ‘C of the aft ‘Jennie, I’ll It H ’ed to roam 91in: way 1' you have for tfiie 1'. my. and laughed it. u of the and

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