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Canadian Post (Lindsay, ONT), 28 Aug 1891, p. 1

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V \ :\~ _ ICES E-uSecen nds. chine 0a, 168, ay Rakes, Forks, es, and all ‘ t T0018. {able Gilli; AIMS, nvil. zen. _.____â€"â€"â€"- [liner . ADY .day trip and ii men can’t?)6 , llesofstrengt ,_ form, but all , have IObUSt 'th and strong , CS and clear: .13, Our new ‘ t makes such ' l . Themethods 1 We are fully prepared fine stock to make your eel for School 0 Three Suits for the son THE GIRLS we are equally NEW with Bantams in Remnants 0: Points. Dress Goods| Road“- Made Jackets. etc. Bermudas in 30mm Elma Ribbons, Laces. Honda-wear. Cap; General Furnishings and Small Wares. We make a specialty of all these hues, and 0d mono saved by purchasing your school outfittingo supplies Gloves. yet had quotations 76 and 78 Kent-st, - Lindsav. August 27. 189L-68. J. G. Edwards. 1 PICK-EON ._ , ,~:.".’ .C‘ IOPAIIT,STIII A ll VIRIISIIG ALL IN ONE. For Staining all Kinds of Wood. For Renewing Old Furniture. For Painting Carriages. For Staining Cane, Willow, Wicker, Slat Work, etc. For many other purposes. For Renovating Everything. @- The above goods are world-renowned and un- equalled. J. G. EDWARDS, ' Dealer in such. Heavy and Fancy Hard- ware. Iron. Oils, Cement, Paints. Glass. Etc. Sign of the Anvil. mndsay. Aug. 26. 189Lâ€"63. Canadian Pacific Railwax. m From all stations in Ontario return rates to METHVEN HAR'I‘NEY DELORA ISL-i MOOSORIIN BINSCA “TH REGINA $28.00! testers $30.00! I l CALGARY PRINCE ALBERT $35 .00 To leave all polntsin the Province of Ontario on AUGUST "I", 39m willmsleptember AUllUSl ISTH, Recmggw...” tourism IST, caesium Putin ticketing from other into should an- mus; weenie...“ humus: . n and Septemberlst, m. R A Farr-to- and mu aP-R-lmtorto lnformatfcumlrtouuy '1'- C: MATCH”. Agent P. u . Lind- mco. Kent-st, oppome Dagnouso Alb-cow. let the Buys and Girls Ready for School, for this important occasion with a very from to get your young- . We have a very large Stock of action - and well-selec and Youths' Clothing, bought at 60c. 0n the Dollar, which we are ofi‘e ' at Less than Manufbcturer’s Prices. . ceof Two. Thesearemcts worth looking after, and should be picked up quick. Boys’ Knockabout Straw and Pelt Ties, Shirts, Socks, Underwear, etc, at specie 22E cs. 10 dos. Bgs'f'lomlotto Shirts, re at rice 450., but they at 350. each. 75 REMNANTS of “all 3.601 and untearableggweeds at less than half-price. Huts, Braces -â€"â€"â€"i canbo us; GLOVES! GLOVES !! GLOVES!!! Spoolal prices for all kinds of Summer Gloves. Better Bargains than ever are being offered to clear out every In addition we have just opened Ladies’ Black and .C'olored 4-Button Kid Gloves, which we are offering during this sale as follows: 600 Pairs at 50 cents, regular price and value, 75 cents. 600 Pairs at 75 cents, regular price and value, $1.00. These are special drives and worth looking after, as they won’t last long and cannot be rqflaced at the price. NEW FALL GOODS. We are opening every day large uantities of New Fall Goods, which are being offered at our well- nown exceptionally low prices. COUNTRY MERCHANTS and SMALL DEALERS can at all times find Job lines with us in Staple and Small Wares much below regular Wholesale Prices. In addition you have the advantage of buying in lengths .to suit your tradeâ€"half or quarter pieces. Our Jobbing Trade is steadily increasmfg because our prices are right. 'If you have not om us come and see what we can do. You are sure to be pleased and save money as well. WARNER COMPANY, THE GREAT BANKRUPT STOCK MEN. LINDSAY. ' of Summer ,200 pairs of J. H. Soothoran. A PARTIAL LIST or . “This part of the route cannotbc usoduntll I the swing is placed in the railway bridge at the upper entrance of the lock." . Are you, I now ask, going to leave the ron can: BY J. H. SDOTHERAN, Real Estate, Money Leaning and ’ Insurance Broker, Lindsay. TOW'NSHIP OF MARIPOSA. will buy you 147 acres. 75 acres cleared; clay loam soil. fairly well 4} miles from Little talu. Terms to suit. will buy you 100 acres. all cleaned. first-class buildings and good state of Easy terms. will buy you 100 acres near Wood- $5,000 lm raved. $6,700 $3,500 ,,,, TOWNSHIP OF OPS. will buy you 119 acres adjoining Lindsa will buy you 125 acres adjoining Lindsay. will buy you 100 acres seven miles from Lindsay. will buy you 100 acres three miles from Lindsay. will buy you 100 acre farm near Reeboro. will buy you no acre farm near Lindsay. cultivation. u $5,500 ASPINALL’S ENAMEL $7.500 $4,600 $4,700 $4,400 $4,000 $5,500 $4,600 will buy you 200 acre farm near Mbunt Hcreb. will buy you 100acrefarmsouthof Roaboro. TOWNSHIP OF EMILY. will purchase 133 acres three miles from Omomce. will purchase Downeyvllle. first-class in every Goodbuilulngs. will purchase 125 acres within one mile of Omcmoe. , TOWNSHIP OF MANVERS. will purchue 150 acres near Fleet- wood. will the $5,200 J, $9,000 I $7,000 200 BOYCE near particular. $5,200 $4,500 $6,000 $3,800 urohsso 112 cm sd'oining hgeofBom:ny. J willpurchoss133 acres near Bally- dufi'. will purchase 100 acres three miles from Ballrdufl. $6,700 lvilrnillpurchaseSOOaci-esnear Frank- TOWNSHIP OF FENELON. $3,500 EEWIWW near Feuslon $3,800 $1,800 $2,750 $3,000 $6,000. will purchase-108 acres near Powlos Corners. will purchase It” acres in township of Eldon. willpurchuszfioaorosiu sownshl ofVorulam. ’ FARMS WANTED TO RENT. Win (Lemmas $115!. units II. uniâ€"7‘.- m TRENT VALLEY CANAL. AN INTERESTHVG DEBATE. Ir. Baron's noon" Speech and II. Bowoll's Sharp Replyâ€"Hr. Stove-on m M In thohousoof commousoutholsthiust. in committee of supply the following debate, (from the oflclsl report), took place on the item:â€" TroutCaual oflockaudlm- provomoutofns botwsm ukodold dud Bahamian» 000. Mr. Ransomâ€"I do not intend this even- ing to take up the timooftho house by discussing this at great length, but on a future occasion, 1 hope this Moo. we may devote thrcecrfour hours atlas» to l discussing the merits and demerits of this canal. I no the hon. member for West Peterbcro (Mr. Stevenson) and the hon. member for But Poterhorc (Mr. Bumham) in their costs. and I would ask them. and now ask them. touoto the fool and tell their constituents when they go book that it has been announced tonight by the acting minister of railways and callus that the government luteud. at a cost of four or five millions. to build a canal ou the h north side of the St. Lawrence river when there is already one on the south side which is still apparently available for the some object, and yet they will not put a dollar in the estimates for the construction of the Trent Valley canal. I particularly call the attention of the hon. members for East and West Potorboro and of the hon. member for East Northumborloud (Mr. Cochrane) and of the hon. member for South Victoria (Mr. Fairbalrn) to the foot that the government are entering upon the work on the St. Lawrence to which I have referred and will not vote a solitary cent for the Trent Valley canal, that work which has been time and time again promisedâ€"it is true just before a general electionâ€"to the people in the mldland district of the province of Ontario. But I do not propose tonight to discuss this matter at any length. I want to draw the attention of the government to the fact that for five successive sessions I have pointed out that at Fonelou Falls, north of the lock, the bridge remains as it always has done. I ask the minister now what is going to be done about it. There is a lock at Fenolon Falls which has cost between $250,000 and $300,000. It fsa very excellent lock, it is true. Good work was done there. A lockmaster was employed year after year, and the receipts last year wore just $35.60, and the reason for that has been that for all these years since that look was built a bridge has been left across tho river at one end of the look, absolutely preventing any navigation whatsoever through that lock. The government can- not plead iguorauco of the matter. They cannot even say they have not received information from other quartors than their own engineers, because time and time again has their attention been brought to the fact that that bridge remains there and renders the lock impassable for craft of any kind except row boats. The govorn- meat engineer, in his last report, says, speaking of Pension Falls: bridge there as it always has been, or are you going to have something done to bene- fit the people by making use of the lock and the canal which you have built there at the enormous expense of between $250,000 or $300,000? Now, I understand that the government are anxious todo somethln to make that water navigable, to make c lock beneficial to the people so as to enable them to go up and down from one lock to another. But they are cheese- paring about this business; they are willing to give something to the Grand Trunk railway, and lot the Grand Trunk put in a swing bridge. I tell the government there is no use talking about a swing bridge. A swing bridgochoro would not be safe, it would be impossible by reason of the cur- rents of the river. But they must make some arrangement with the Grand Trunk by which that bridge is removed entirely and the railway is put south of the lock where the banks on either side of the river are high enough to enable vessels to go underneath a railway bridge. Now, there ‘may be a question of law involved in this matter, and I wish the minister of Justice were here to discuss it. But It seems to me that where there is a non-navigable river made navigable by the government, the government then might require, by law, that any obstruction should be re- moved; but that the government has to be at an expense of removing the obs motion in this case at an expense 'of $50,000 or $60,000 I cannot understand. I underotaud this proposition is perfectly sound and good low, and I say that the government to-day cannot escape liability for the removal of the obstruction. But to go and say they will give the Grand Trunk some 310,000 or $15,000 to put in a swing bridge, will not answer the purpose, because a swing bridge will be unavailable, and besides, will be always dangerous, and I under- stand the Gruud Trunk very properly refuse to put in a swing brl Now, I want to draw the attention of o minister again to the fact that they have been pay- ing a lockmastor several years a salary 8250 or $300. and the receipts last your were only $35 60. Now, the fact of allowing those receipts to base small is militating against the reputation of the route, because people do not understand that the reason why the receipts are so smdil is that tho route is made impassable by reason of this bridge. I would, therefore, like the minister to say what is the intention of the government in regard to that bridge. I would like him to say if it is thsfnleu- tion of the government to make any arrangement with the Grand Trunk at ones, because he will remember that every match this matter has boon brought to his attention, and the same timeâ€"worn promlsohas been made that they would see about it. But that has been going on for five years now. 'and we are just where we began. Surely the minister must see how unwise and vicious the government's policy faâ€"to to the enormous expense of cuttings ock thorc,lmvlngthooutiro system of navigation on a long line, of inter-nil waters interfered with and abso- lutely destroyed by reason of New, their own reportyoaraftcryoarhas told them thatthsrearovossolsfntbo 2:?“ “a. “""l: m m: I use a s or on; but I to mothohou. member tor clot-lulu. Dori-on) scheme. Is the hon. gmtlomau prepared togo tohls oonsfltumnorlsho pared to go into East and West 1:.on and tell the electorsâ€"because they are reason- able men, they no men of common senseâ€" that we should spend no less a sum than 15,000,000 in the outermost of tho ouand canal, when we are about to ex pond some $3,000,000 on the Soult Ste. Marie canal, and that to reader that available for tho gurposos for which that oxpondlturo has made, we must in. crease the depth of waterinall the canals until wo reach the sea board? Yet wo have an hon. gentleman calling the atten- tion of the representatives from the cou- stltuonclos more immediately interested to the fact that we are spending 85.000010 upon the enlargement of the Boauharnofs canal on the south, or ol,coo.ooo In the construction of s new canal on the north shore, when we refuse a dollar to the enterprise in which he lolutorostod. I do not know whether the hon. gentleman thinks this house is so stupid as not to understand the absurdity of the position that he has laid bofcro us. The host. gentleman says that this canal to which he has referred, and in which holsaolgmlny interested, will cost four or five on dollars, orasum equal tothatwo are expanding on the enlargement of the Boauharuofs canal, or the construction of anewcanalen the north shore. The proposition that is before the country in regard to the completion of the Trent Valley canal Is to obtain a depth of water from Georgian bay to bay of Quinta of 5} feet. What are the facts in connection with the estimates, apart altogether from the “merits of I’tmfs schloénel The :33 n omen says go g to cost our or five millions. I have before me Mr. Page's estimates for works not got commenced, and it is $9,984,610 for a vo foot and a-half canal on the route to which I have referred. Mr. Rubldgo estimates it at $8,804,500. I could give, if it were deemed advisable, the estimated ccst'of the different sections with which tho hon. gentleman is perhaps as well acquainted as Iain; butlf woaro toodopt thothoory mentioned by tho hon. member for Oxford, theso estimates may vs a in way below the actual cost. owovor, I c not intend to enter into a full discussion of the question tonight, and I would not have said sol much had not the hon. gentleman attempted to make some poll- tic-l points out of it, rather than argue the merits of the work itself. The only practical point to which be called attontlcu was that of the lock and that of the bridge. I admit frankly that there has been a great deal of delay, and I may say unneces- sary delay, in accomplishing the object which he- and those intereswd have in view, and that is in having a bridge. whether a swing bridge or not. or the Grand Trunk should change its line and cross the river at another point to be determined hereafter. But I can assure the hon. gentleman during tho short time I have been in charge of the department I have taken active measures in connection with this bridge to insist on the Grand Trunk railway doing that which we believe the law compels them to do. and which they deny their liability to do. That work will be completed at as early a day as pos- alble. If there is anything new to make the locks available for 3h. purpose for which they were constnt' .tod, this item in the estimates will be qr as sufficient to accomplish the object wo ave in view. Of course I defer to tho supot'm: knowledge and engineering skill of the hon. member for North Victoria (Mr. Barron) who shakos his head. if he would confine himself to shaking thatintslloctual head and not using his tor goo, the house would be con- vinced of the very great wisdom it contains. But the onglncor whose dutylt fete inform ministers on this qusottoutolls ms, and no one knows better than the engine" who is of on my left, that this sum isamplo to accomplish what the hon. gentleman has in view, that the‘bridgs,'lf we are to construct it, will bo made available and some of the boulders and obstructions which now exist in than ”House! the rtverandlako at present navigablo removed. to have a tilt We will be qulto proposed with the hon. gentleman If he desires it on some future occasion, but let usdfscuos this question on its merits apart from political advantages to be derived from it. Mr. Bastionâ€"Tho minute undertakes to give me a lecture. Mr. Bowm-Why not. you gave me of delay and of unnecessary delay. in. Bowuhsâ€"I said ounces-sly daisy. I did not repeat it. Mr. Banachâ€"Ho would“? that I rose g: i: it it 3. 2% ii i. s r i 3 E E 5 i s i .5. 3 .. .. .r' a" autumn” o vs 0 so w the locks. Yet the hon. undertook to lecture me because my tosootheosnal bmltlwaxsda little worm in the Interests of my consum- out. Thebes. gentlemen claimed that 1 showed acknowledge of the subject. Much have tor the hon. gentleman. I know much more about the work than does the acting minister. He has told the house that the cost of the Trent Valle easel to to be cio.ooo.oco according to Mr. ubldgs. But he was not candid ouo h to state that a l tloo has already spent. I autumn: that the hon. gentleman does not know ow much has been spent. Mr. Bowuu-I stated it was for works not already commenced. Mr. Ballast - The estimate of Mr. bldgo was .8 085.0(1) of which there vo boon Omdod albums. loavlul . balance “07.583011, instead of $8,085.0w, which the acting minister would lead the house to believe was the estimate. Now, sir. we know.too. that these look. have been very excessively built. Year after you the ocvorumont have been promising that this Trout Valley canal should be bullt, and quite lately they shieldcdthsmrolvsa behind a commission; they wanted to have delay take place. in order that thov might excuse themselves to the people to whom they were making promises that this canal should be built. andso they had a committee appoint- od to investigate the matter. That com- mission ropcrted in reference to the locks as follows: "The attention of the commissioners has been called to tho width of the looks at present com- loted. There are twelve of those. 131 feet long by 83 wide. For modern locks this width is v great in proportion to the length. They are of esamohosineasthose gmgomdea$fl° la wovor, were woo $33-$33 vsssolaTrhlg: 3%.? is 1:: paces: to use. e In gngg that 3.74.1. of B foot would be sufficient. 1 would ask the :tmggptgf tho mgnigtor to thopartioulor act 0 comm as on- ors re rtod that the width of the looks as y reported is too wide, and that the locks themselves are too extensively built, and wo find that by adopting the suggestion of the commissioners, there would be a saving of $20,010 on each of the 71 locks still to be built, or a saving of $1,420,000. Thou regarding the class of work which the commissioners suggest should not. be so good as it has been, there would bsasavlng We find thorofcro that according to the commissioners appointed by the government to investigate this Trout Valley canal. there would be a s it § iE saving in all of $3,424,000, thus reducing m . bid o's figures to $4,125,100, instead Mt Bu 8 odd dollars which the minister would like this house to believe would be the cost of the work already to be construe . It is a very curious coincident. and I would ask the house to notice ft, that the reduction of Mr. Rubldgo’s figures by reason of carrying out the proposition made by the commissioners, would make the ultimate cost of the canal 84.120000. and I would ask the minister to note the fact that those figures almost correspond with the estimate of Mr. Starko,anothor engineer. When the minister told us that this canal was going to cost $8,000,000 odd on Mr. Rubidgo’s estimate, why did he not tell us that Mr. Starks, another ouglnoor. had estimated that the cost would be $3,200,000 to complete the canal. I would ask the minister to note that if the changes sug- gested by the commissioners in their report were, adopted Mr. Starko's figures would almost corrospoud with the reduced figures of Mr. Rubldgo. if the suggestions made by the commissioners were carried out. The minister undertakes to lecture mo me for sho some anger, as I think he called it. regard to this matter, and he at- tributes to me that I cannot discuss any question of this kind without showing political motivéa. I ink the minister has already boon told to lght that there are others in this house who can show political motives. The hon. member who sits beside me, (Mr. Scriver), told the minister himself a few moments ago, that possibly the government might be desirous of build- ing the Boauharnols canal on the north side of the river St. St. Lawrence, for and from politichl motives. 1 do not say that is so. but in the meanwhile. the hon. minister ought to be careful in charging mo vith political motives. If political mctk‘c‘ have been shown by anybody in this house, I think I can say they have beon shown by the gentlemen occupying the treasury benches, because the very moment that I become member f<r North Victoria the work on the Trent Valley canal. so far as progressive work is concerned, ceased all through my riding, and from that time to the present not a dollar has been spent. because the people of North Victoriaâ€"if I am to attribute polltloal motivesâ€"returned an opponent of the government. Although all the facts show that political motives have been characteristic of has. gentlemen on the other side of the house, yet because, anxious as I am for tho cousmotlou of the canal, I show some warmth at tho unneces- sary delay which the minister himself admits has taken place, he arises in his soataud accuses mo of political motives. I soythatthofactthot work has caused in my riding ainooI was olected,toudsto i motives on the other side of the house. I am zealous in the interest of my constituents as I always shall be. and I the govern findfault with this government for not faith with the interested in $0 huntValley thls'housoa map-m which was out by lead.- “woodman! . I f'I‘smi 3;: i F l i E El I E! ii it l3 it :e t! E l a i. 5% El 3% ii 38 E o 3i ’8 n w o on. e o. n w ~ I" H Elli E 8 3. i E meeting in the town of - and what does it say! That the Trent Valley oausloommlmfou ve avers y I ; mm 0! roll t3 and lectures me for sho ore is a pledge mode by the to premier that parliament would be for a grant for the hull of this anal, and we find that not cos d for It is in the estimates. Icomploimuotthat their promises made those promise» Doesnot the hou. mem- ber for But Pctu‘bcrc (Mr. Buruham) know that man asked him about them- veto of the construction of the t allsyOouol.oud thothotoldthomcutho faith of that promise: “You the canal to an echo bum." And at. when I tell 0 vsrumont that th are I0 shot the people have go's deceived broken. right and left. the so minister gets up and lectures me for wing some little warmth, because he is my senior in age. I say I am justldod in ohowluu some warmth on this omofloo, because the whole history of the mount has been one of deception“ broken meals“. of broken faith wl the peopleâ€"promising year after car before the elections that the canal wou be built. but their nominees soon as the on is over. daboutthooamo to expel amount of men that would build the Trent Valley can in order to construt a usual on the north side of the St. Lawrence. when there is already one on the south side of the river. Therefore I have a right to show some warmth. and any hon. gentle- man would do the some thing if he found that his people had been deco vod and the public money wasted; and I hurl back tho fnslnuatlou made b the hon. minister of railways and that I have shown undue warmth and seal, or that I have been actuated by improper motlvos in this matter. Mr. Bowmanâ€"After that magnificent speech, would the hon. gentleman say whether I correctly understood him to say that some $4,000,“ had been spent. and that the original estimate of II. Rubldge was $8 635,000? _ Mr. Smashâ€"I mo that it was sacs... 000, and that there had been expended already 81.100010, leaving 87,585,“ of Mr. Bubldgo’s ostimato. Mr. BowuLLâ€"Wlll the hon. gentleman kindly soy whore he got those estimates? Mr. Ransom-They were furnished by an engineer, James N. Irvine, who takes them from Mr. Rubidgo’s report dated November 15th, 1887. Mr. Bowmâ€"I may tell the hon. gentle- man that those figures, like his spot-ch, are incorrect. The expenditure up to Doccm- ber. 1890, was $750,467 98. glad the hon. Mr. Bantamâ€"l am member for North Victoria has taken this particular project under his wing, and is giving it his assistance. I am not certain from the toner of his remarks whether he is taking this interest in the subject on account of political advantage that may accrusto him and his party. or on other undo. At- all events this particular work is one of considerable interest to the constituency which I represent, and to which the hos. mombor from North Victoria has referred on several occasions. The hon. gentleman has referred to the attitude of myself, and the hon. member for West Potorboro (Mr. Stevenson) in this matter. Now. I do not propose to find any fault with the government because they propose to expend between $4,000,000 and $5,000,000 for a canal on the north side of the St. Lawrence river, because I consider that that work is necessary if we are going to have the Trent Valley canal. The com- merce that would me down the Trent Valley canal must necessarily use the 8:. Lawrence canals; and if the whole system is to be carried out we who are interested in the Trent Valley canal are tly satisfied with that expenditure. under- stood tho hon. member for North Victoria to state that he gave mo notice that he would bring this matter up, and it appears that now he has had all the discussion he proposostohavo on the question. Snork- ing of the cost of tho coon, ho voters to Mr. Rubidgo's estimate of about 88,”,000, and I think the hon. gentleman is right in saying that the work can be constructed for a very much less sum, because the works now constructed are stated by the commissioners in their reports to be unnec- essarily expensive. There could probably be saved 32.000000. That I understand is what the non. member for North Victoria refers to when he speaks of the saving that could be cfi'ectod on the estimate made by the engineer. Now, I do not propose to go into a dfrcuoolou of the merits of this canal. I understand that we shall have an opportunity on a future occasion to discuss tho question in this honor; but I must say that we feel that the government have pledged themaolvoe to the construction of this work. Its merits may not be generally known to the members of this house, and I hope we shall have an opportunity again to bring the subject more fully before the house. At all events the telegram that was read by the hon. member for Victoria. I think. stated the position in which the government stands with regard to this work. The government appointed a com- mission to examine fdto the caution. and the hou. member for North lctorla says they shielded themselves behind the com- mlasfon. Now that is not a curred stato- mont of the facts. because what the verumoutdfd wasthls: There woreoomo oubts as to whether there was sufficient water supply to carry on this work, and the government rofisrrod that matter. as walla-all other matters in regard to the , to three gontlomon. two of whom, at all events, they considered disinterested. Those were Mr. Kennedy, the harbour engines of Montreal. and Mr. Turner, the engineer of Toronto. Mr. Kennedy, so far as I know, wont those rather prejudiced against the work, having bows nothing about it beforehand; but after he had gone over the route and inspected the whole master, he came to the conclusion that it was work duosvingocnsfdorsflmnot E member fcrNorth Victoria Hr. Barron huoomnlainod outbogovenmat( have) built two oxosudvo locks immediately l g E i .3 r it: is l 5 E: "4 5 25 hourtossy anything that may debate, hates the hon. mombc Patel-borehole okououtho matter, think.falriyan justlme-ybom toglvs myopfniou. Iamvory mud dfosppolntodfu uotaoolng a lorgsoum in tho “mates, fuvlewof the we recolvodfromthofirat minister tthmu El. 5 .W theooualcobobuutat ulswflllh youotobufldfhbutws that. sum would be in mama“. which would satisfy the people so some extent that the government meant to with it. Ikuow thatluocuscquouos the decrease in the sonar duties and things the government are ovens to focusing expenditure. but surely m might guarantee that next your they lacs some in the estimates for this wk. 0 matter what vornmeut is is pow. that section of 0 country will them to do this work eventually. The people are determined to have it; and if they do not got Ola the - ornmont may expect a solid opp non Trent. valley. No matter what govern- ment may be in power. there to uodou that sooner or later they will be broad to construct that canal. It may be well so that it is not noctamry and that. we are ding a vast amount of money in the awroaos, but those is a country are 1" ”1‘2: “- m...“ mm "- 2:: n ex s so. by sixteen or ofgh mom "’3'? soon be roprosoutod by more than twenty members, who will probably have some- thlug to say in the matter. The people are detox-minor! they shall not be knot in the background for over, and shall have facilities for transportation. Largo manu- facturioo are building along the route of that canal. According to the report of the commission, the canal can be built much cheaper than the engineers reported. The locks can be built much cheaper, and need not cost anything like what has been mou- tlonod by the engineers. The gentlemen "”331“: “that commission book out groa 0 pa s, wont over every part the proposed route, and modes very fair report, and a unanimous report; and I think their report should not be overlooked. especially as the government havo at dlflor- out. times distinctly told us that as soon as their report was in, if it was favorable they would certainly push on tho construction of that canal. With regard to the bridge at Fenolon Falls, we know that no vessels can go up there in consequence of it, and the Grand Trunk Railway refuse to buflda bridge with a swing in it. I went with the engineer, Mr. Page, several times to on Grand Trunk runway Company, and they rooosod to deflect their line below the coke, if the goverment would contribute a liberal share towards the expense. The government agreed to contribute 812,“, but the company would not take loss than 8254!!) or $001), and nothing came of it. I did trust the government would cos the necessity of doing something, for In um something must bs'dono if they wish to retain the confidence of that section of the ”name (’1‘ Mr. Bronxâ€"I am 'glad to see the hon. member for West Potcrboronkh and othaa so outspoken with reference to this matter. They really ooom to mean business, and if they would act up to what they say, they would soon have the canal. Havo the government any intention of making an survey of the western portion of the I am aware it sort of survey was made some years ago, but it was generally con- sidered that the estimate was exaggerated. I understand that the non. of the western section as well as that d the eastern has been fully surveyed, .d that the route that is the most foaafbloyh laid down on the map. I am not own. that any further survey is required snag it be to ion .ts the canal in case of whole work being put under contract m t. '2' Est: construction. I understood there was no regular survey of the woatorn because it was not known where the would terminate. If a survey were you could make some osttmato of tho coir-i ~ Mr. BABBON.â€"I am sure the minister d railways will be inclined to odor mo some sort of an apology after hearing what the member for East Poterborough (Mr. Burn- ham) said just now, because whateve- mfght be said In regard to my political motives could not be said in regard w other of the two hon. members for the county of Psterborongh, who could have no such motives against the govorammt and especially against the minister of rail- ways. I thank those hon. gentlemen to: supporting what I said. I was very glad to heu- the member for West Petal-borough (Mr. Stevenson) speak as he did. Iknow the exceedingly enviable repumtfou he bears in Peterborough for everything just and upright, but last sosdou I found that twoorthreotlmoshs woroadlflerouthos towards the government from that which he wore to his constituents at home, so I was agreeably surprised might to hour him take the government to ask tor their unnecessary delays in this way. I hope the hon. member will be just as active in the future in regard to this canal as he apparently has promised to be tonight. I did notice that the member for West Potat- borcugh showed a great amount of know- should substitute places. Mr. WALLACE -Explaln that, please. “substitute places.” Mr. Eamon-I do not know whose db hon. mombor for West York (Mr. Wallace) was odocatod, but if he will send tor the dicti he will find the word “subd- tuto’an the word ‘ loops” and bacon find that out for timer f. I am glad that the hon. members for Eat and Wool. Pet. "6

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