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young French Canadian girl employed at the woollen factory at New Edinburgb, while working at a picker, bad her arm drawa beâ€" bween the feed rollers to the cylinder, which is amed with spikes of how 2} to 3 inches in u--fl:‘ li‘lfi':“ O speed, Tentroy thak Hink to tha albar. * * * “h Cocnt. â€"'Tb'e;c'u no bnflmudono wÂ¥ this gourt yesterday morning, but in the afterncom Jane Tierny was brough t up chargâ€" ed with passing fAve half dollars on Mrs. M Comby who being called.on to give evidence aaid that not liking the money, she gave it back to the prisoner. It was therefore not duced, so that no one could prove it .ol’": counterfeit, and the case was dismiss.d. A Fmenrves Accwert.â€"We learn that a 'l.; wheels and the axle wu~;nâ€":h:;'ol was P but beâ€" d e e e Ahiy-.hlh-mhpnthu-, but we m excaped injury, . 1 cases ; h.' a choice lot of th'd;.:-;c't'c;h‘ pany Mv w, atches, uflm cases, lup‘nu:. l-ntu: the place, 30, Sparksâ€"st. . A rixs sssortment of Lamps, Chandeliets and Hall Lamps, can be got at the Coal Oil Depot, D: R. Leavens, 13 Sussexâ€"st.â€"597â€"a Acuxownzpomeut. â€" The Sisters of Charity ackpowledge a donation from B. Fisher of $80.50, collected in B. Bartlctt‘s shantics on the Gatinean. Youre & Hapronn have just received, per ox. press, a fresh supply of the celebrated Walâ€" tham American watches, in gold and silver | "I‘-"om&lfl-fiuddn value durndolbbmulhl-.lhh eovereign would practically meet the case, without legislating about American Silver at all ; but the question is a very difficult one to deal. with, and we are glad that Mr. Warsm has called attention to i as anâ€" doubtediy the country expects some remedy at the haunds of the Government. if it had ever prevailed, in the sister Proâ€" vince. But here, common consent has reâ€" versed the case. We have practically recog: nised American Silver as currency at par value in one class of transactions, and at a :"hl'm(nw)i.m ~‘n“~'i¢nhh‘ destitute of any‘ legal tender valuc at all. Hence we mainly in the interest oltlb'o”h:kr;n,-:; we do not see that the evil is to be remedied by affizing alegal, so far below its actual was briet, and we cinnot say that we perâ€" ceived the efficiency of Mr. W ausn‘s proposal. If American Silver, having mo legal tender value in this country, has begn able to cireu late in ordinary retail trade 4t pat, is it reaâ€" somable to suppose that giving it a legal tender :value of eighty cents will check its cirgulation ? . The experience of New Brun:â€" wick, referred to by Mr. Warsn, does not, to our way of thinking, help the case. There, ‘the people, without legislative interference, and merely by common consent, adopted the aystem of receiving American Silver, not as U*jh.my at a discount of twenty per cent, and a@ a matter of course the **Silver Nuisance‘ was speedilv abated. | Mz. Warsu brought up the question of the " American Silver Nuisance" yesterday, on & resolution that it be made legal tender at the rate of eighty cents on the dollar. The Finance Minister asked him to withâ€"_ ‘draw The WH0U88, Wa the Oovernment had the whole question of the currency under con, sideratiun, and would as soon as puu-u.‘ introduce a measure into Parliament in reâ€" lation to it. The discussion on the motion one of very great importance uo e e o o. Emieiitied M"l' Mr. Wabotxortox will take pleasure in meet ing such gentlemen as may fee} an interest in the subjectat 3 o‘clock, p. m., on Saturday next, the Tth instant. We hope thut there will be a large attendance as the question is In fartherance of this wish, the Sreackr of the House of Commons having kindly placed at ho_‘qn-l the Railway Committee Room, LOCAL NIEWS. toresting speech. The House adjourned at 1145 ~ # latter intimating that he would move a series of resolutions in amendment at a future stage of the debate. Col. Gzar replied to Mr. Howr. The debate was continued by Messrs, Amorurs, Cartier and Stwrsox, and ad journed, Mr. Tnowrsos (N. Ontario) having the fAvor. Mr. Stursox, (Algoma) delivered lutions seriatim, and pointing out the position the Hudson‘s Bay Company wou‘ld occupy in relation to the Government of the Dominion, In the evening, Mr. Boowen1 and Mr. Bgu spoke in opposition to the resolutions, the had heen disposed of the Hon. Mr. Macnorâ€" GaLL introduced his resotutions on the Northâ€" wesk Testipory, which we published on Saturday morning. made a most able and exhaustive ) explaining the resoâ€" Tus Commercial Bank sill was read a third time and pqesed, and the Intercolonial Ruilway Bill introduced in the Commons yesterday. After a few unimportant items war as» Basaxâ€"Dows.â€"About noon as one of . Mr. Buckley‘s carriages the Russell Hopge. ‘The horses turn and in some way one of l-uhfiu.hnq-'. W. Honshaw. Notice of Application. Oitawa Provisional Battalion Rifles. Teacher Wanted, Elestors of the Tewnahip of, Fiteroyâ€"W . Taylor TbreOttewaCimes Hor Majesty‘s Theatreâ€"Mr Arthur Sketchley. Auction Saleâ€"H. McLean, Her Majesty‘s Thentroâ€"Beneft of Mr. and Mrs. J. NEW AVVERTISEMEN [S. On no mâ€"-m the names of THURSDAY, DECEMBER 5, 1so7 Citv and County Official Paper y, kept afloat & most in ' "amdCBTs AXD CoUsSE tUR3ISMAGS.â€"Gariand, Mutchmor & Co., 20 Sparkesf, make a | _ Garrets axo Gouse rvayimmacs.â€"Gariand, T is 27° 2078 Scoua and New brunswick. As Par * | _ I have looked into the law on this subject liament was about to legislute on this subject inâ€" | with a good deal of care, and I find there is & | for all the Provinces in the Confederation, it Jy | material defect in our Railway Acts. . Out | was reasonable that the members should be Acts provide amply for the satety of the toad, | put as nearly as possiblé in possession of all &. every one who obstructs it, &¢.| the facts connected with the working ot: the are clauses, however, in the English system throughout the Dominion. Up to the aad Canadian Railway Acts, punishing &r088 | year 1351 the Post Office scrvices of the several and misconduct in the railway officials colunies in question had been under the conâ€" are omitted in ours. The Imperial | tro! of the ?mpeml Post Offlice, but during J | Act, 3 and 4 Vic., chap. 97, sec. 13, provides | that year, in cons=quence of uegoviations with i1 | that any engine driver, guard, porter, or serâ€" | the parent Stat«, this important business vant in the employ of a company, who ‘h1" | was transferred to the care of the several Proâ€" | be found druok while employed on the railâ€" viaces, under cortain conditions, however, as Y | way, or shall commit any offence against any | to the rates to be charged, which were to be f | of the byâ€"laws, regulations, or rules of "Wl the same in them all, and also, as to the Imâ€" g | company, or who shall willfally, maliciously, perial Packet Service. â€" The }b.ul Service or ligently do or omit to do any ul,‘ then formed the subject of legislation in the 'hz!mm"*ul'h"’f any person PASSâ€" | several Proviaces, ani in some particularts * | ing along or being upon the railway, of the | there had been a divergence between them in â€" | works thereof, shall be injured or endangered, | ;),,, legislation enucted. Io certain respects r | shall be subject to prosecution, &¢. The Imâ€" | p,, thought the results would prove that the , | perial Act 24 and 25 Vic., chap. 100, sec. 34, system pursued by Canada, would commend , | provides that whosoever by ary unlawful act, | jige}f as the most satisfuctory. In all the or by any wilful omission or neglect, shall enâ€" | colonies the Postmasters were Crown appoint» * | danger, or cause to be endangered, the safcty ments. In Canada and New Brunswick the of any person being in or upon the ruilway | Postmastersâ€"Gencral had always been politicat | shall be gullty of misdemeanour, and liakle to officers, "“q‘ had unot been so in Nova Scotia. | punishment. . ‘The Canadian law substanâ€" | In the cities of Canada, such as Quebec, Monâ€" , | tially adopts these Acts. TA s treal, Ottawa, Kingston, Toronto, Hawilton, p| _ At the present mowent, I think it doubtful ‘ and London, the Postmasters were paid by whether an indictment would lie against the sularies, but in all other places by commisâ€" | parties who have been guilty of the (Begliâ€" | signs on the amount of their transactions. In j rm or omissions which caused these deaths. | ;),,, Lower Provinces the offices were divided a England and Cavada an indictment would | into Pust Offices and Way Oflices; the Post undoubtcdly lic against them. But at comâ€" Oflices being patd by salaries, the others by mon law the cases are conflizting. I thervfore | commissions. This sufliciently described the I invit. your attention, and through you that of system, so far as it related to the appointment the public to this matter. It is high time to and remuneration of the postmasters. ~As to | extend the Jaw which prevails on this subject | the rat: of postage, it was fixed in 1857 at 5 in Canada and England to this equntryâ€"Bigh | conts for repayment and 7 cents when uot| time that every man employed in andâ€"about prepaid. Yn Canada there was besides a aysâ€" | our railways, and who by any omissiOD Of | tem of drop letters, that is of letters posted in | failure of duty shall endunger the safcty of | a locality to be delivered in the sam«, and for |â€" passengers, and a fbrtiori who shall 0¢â€" | this service 2 cents per letter was charged, and | casion their death, shail be criminally responâ€" | o understood that in New Erunswick the | sible in this court, and punished as an exâ€" same system Lad been extended to tfrontier | t ample and terror to all others in the llhI..,. so that a letter dropped in a frontier | a case offending." | fowns, #o that a ietter dropped in a frontier | 1 Then, the other day an Indian was killed, and the most valuable life in the community might have been equally sactrificed. At the inquest the man employed said :â€"‘* I belicve that the deceased came to his death in conseâ€" quence of a sleeper not being high.enough to prevent the cars p-lz'om it. On several n:- 1 have seen cars pass over the re€erted to : accidents ofa similar kind w*flb; accidents of a similar kind have occurred had persons been placed as the deceased was, between the rail and the building. 1 never reported the circumstances to any of the officials, thinking they might see for themseives.‘" "1I have to call your attention to the unâ€" Sortunate deaths which have lately cccurred on our railway. . One of these was.the lamentâ€" ed death of Dr. Hogan, a young man ot high m-:‘:-h, the chief support of his widowed and sisters. He was killed, as you know, on the train coming from Bedâ€" ford. I have no wish or disposition to inflame or to excite prejudice agninst the railway ofâ€" ficiels. I u-lf:. Mr. Marshall and Mr. Taylor are competent to their duties, but there is no doubt in the world that there was gross negligence in both these cases, and it would be wroug for me, addressing the Grand Jury, Wfln view I take of these fatal acâ€" nts. PLAIN SPEAKIXG BY THE CHIEFP JUzTICE or xora ___â€" scoma. In his enrnmom.vaunmm the Lord Chief Justice of lo‘n Beotin, said, among other concerning the r.cent fatal nllnym ou the Nova Scotia Railway : * in % favor, and wins golden opinions every t. . Mr. manergan takes his benefit toâ€"night, under the distinguished patronage of Lord Monek and Colonel Lord Alexander Russel!l. The pieces selected for the occasion being The Loan of a Lover, and Don Cwsar de Bazao, Mr. Lanergan appeariog as the Don, and In.h.upl as Maritons. ‘The band of the Rirls Brigado will supply the music. Mr. Mason‘s ben=fit, given by the 8t. Guorge‘s Society, comes off toâ€"morrow night. tragle actress. Mr. Lanergan also sustained his role in firstâ€"class style, as did also Mr. Tyler in Rudoiph. Mrs. Dunn is fast rising Tusatricat.â€"Leab, the Forsaken Jewess, was played at the Theatre last night to a good house, in a most effective manner. All the Actors greatly distinguished themselves, it Mrs. Lanergan rose to the full height ot a Mr. George Moss then proposed the 43rd Battalion of Carl=ton. Responded to by Maâ€" jor Seale and Captain Morgan. _ = _ ‘The happy reunion was then brought to a elose, and after bidding along and friendly farewell to Captain Smythe, the company seâ€" _ Our Host was then given, to which Mr O Mcara responded. The Ladies were then proposed,and respondâ€" ed to by Captain Parsons. "The Press was next proposed,and respondâ€" ed to by the members of the PI:U_H present, _ The Mayor and Corporation of Ottawa, to which Mr. Goodwin, Mr. Andrew Campbel!, and ether gentlemen, responded. _ The Barâ€"of was then proposed, which brought Mr. Lyon ellowes in a sound h. After which the charge ot the U‘htm was well recited by Mr. E. K. MacGillivray. o Mr. Chamberlin, M. P., mthen called upon, and delivered a happy instructive adâ€" Major Seale, from one of the vice chairs, proposed the Prince of Wales Royal Canadian 100th Regiment, to which Captain Smythe responded, giving the history of the Regiment since its organization, and took occasion to offer some remarks on the Abyssinian expediâ€" tion, expressing a sincere wish that he was engaged in it with the brave, 100th. A song by the whole ny. |!: Seale proposed gislature of the & of Canatda, All the toasts wore prefaced by remarks from the chairman, appropriate to the differâ€" ent subjects. _ Major Scale sung #n song." . The next toast was the Army and Navy of Great Britain and the Volunteers of Canada, which was cloquently msomhd to by Capt. Symthe, Major Seale, Col. Grant, Capt. Parsons and Capt. Morgan, of the 43rd Carleton Batâ€" talion. The next toast by the Chairman wasâ€" " Our Guest," mw{.a an eloquent and appropriate speech from Capt. Smythe, which we are sorry to omit, as we are obliged to omit all the others by the pressure of Parâ€" liamentary intelligence. Songâ€"by Major Seale, " The Real Old Irish Gentleman. ‘ * After the _ presentation the company sat down to a really sumptuous repast, prepared by Mr. Patrick O‘Meara in his best style, the viands being all that an epicure could desire. The cloth being removed. ‘The rev. Chairâ€" man proposed The Queen, God Bless Her, which was drunk with all the honors. The next toast was the Prince and Princess oleu and alil the Royal family. s The third toast was His Excellency the Governorâ€"General of Canada. The sword, which is a very beautiful one, is the new regulation Infantry pattern, with fine damascenedâ€"blade, and bears the inscription, " Presented to Capt. Smythe by the citizens of Ottawa." sUPPER ANXD PRESEXT .OR A swoRrbp To cart. I.Q Oor > THE P. W. 100th R â€" â€" A number ot the old friends of Capt. Smythe met together at P. O‘Mcara‘s saloon on Tuesâ€" day evening, for the purpose of presenting him with a sword, and a farewel{ supper on the eve of his departure to join his regiment in Montreal. . Among those present on the occaâ€" sion were many of the volunteer officers of the city and county of Carleton. The Meverend Father Dawson, supported by Major Seale and Dr.Garvey as viceâ€"presidents, eccupied the chair. On behalf of the citizens of Ottawa the chairn.an presented the sword with a suitable Capt. Smythe replied in a very feeling man RAILWAY LAW. cannot sing the old | the rate of postage, it was fixed in 1857 at 5 | cents for repayment and 7 cents when uot prepaid. rn Canada there was besides a sys tem of drop letters, that is of letters posted in a locality to be delivered In the sam«, and for this service 2 cents per letter was charged, and he undurstood that in New Erunswick the same system Lad been extended to trontier tovno{ so that a letter dropped in a frontier town in that Proviuce was delivered in an adâ€" joining frontior town in Maige for 2 cents. In Nova Scotia it was cartied still further, as a letter would be delivered in any country in which it was mailed for sum, The 5 cent and the 7 cent rates gemersl throughout the British rovinces, Tmm.m:‘pupfln lvu-tculd.‘h“ from any r-n Ontarig to any part of Nova Scotla. _ With referance to the postage of Great | by rendering the Postalâ€"Service if possible | more perfect and useful. If in the course of | the examination to which the Bill would be | submitted by the House, any defects were disâ€" covered he begged to say he would,most | readily consider any suggestions hon, memâ€" bers might feel at liberty to offer. Before, however, pmwdlnfio the contents uf the Bill, he would tuke the opportunity of reviewâ€" ing the ut position of the Postal Sâ€"rvice, not in (ruda only, but also in the Provinces ot Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. As Parâ€" liament was about to legislute on this subject for all the Provinces in the Confedcration, it was reasonable that the members should be put as nearly as possible in possession of all the facts connected with the working ot the system throughout the Dominion. Up to the year 1851 the Post Office services of the several colunies in question had been under the conâ€" ‘ ({ol of the ?mperlul Post Oflice, but during M The SPEAKER took the Chair at three o‘clock. Aiter routine y | _Mon. Mr. SKEAD moved that Ruls 62 be | suspended in so far as it relates to the Bill to A , incorporate the Intercolonial Insurance Com:â€" | pany.â€"Carried, _ s x | POBTAL SERVICE REGULATION piLi t | _ Hon, Mr. CAMPBELL in rising to move the , | second reading of this Bill, said that he proâ€" posed to ask the House to consider several clanses in the measure concerning which they 7| could come to no absolute decision, as they 1 only came properly in the first instance under ~ | the control of the other branch of Parliament, ‘ | but should the Bill pass that House then these ‘ | clauses would become parts of it and would 4 be submitted agnin to the Senate. . Notwithâ€" °/ standing this rlight embarrassment he had ‘ | deemed it best in the interests of the publbl | service to submit the measure as it was, and | to afford the House an opportunity of going | into the whole subject.‘ H« proposed to make | a somewhat fall statement in reference to the | various raatters treated of, including the |elauses to which he had referred, and which hon. members would find enclosed in brackets, In bringing up this Bill he noed hardly say that he had, and could have, no other object in | view than the public convenience and benefit, After some further discussion as to the proâ€" pricty .of delay, in view of an outside exâ€" pression o(opln‘oo, the Bill was read a sccond time and ordered for consideration in Comâ€" mittee of the whole on Wednesday next, and the House adjourned. . p | _ Hon. Mr. ODELL thanked the hon. mover of the Bill for the explanations which he had offered, though he regretted that his duty reâ€" quired him to setaside from his mind" those explanations altogether, and merely look to the wording ot the Bill itself. The explanaâ€" tions, no doubt, might be considered by many lu very satisfactory, but whether they were or were not so, they did not alter the wording of the Act, nor give to that wording any «Jifâ€" 1 terent sunse or interpretation than the words employed must mecessarily convey. 1t is with the Bill which the House has to do, and ia that Bill .the Minister of Marine is to have powers which must enevitably clash with those of the Local Legisiatures under the Act of Union, and he was not disposed to consent that any powers such as those sought for by the Bill should be given to any Government, and he hoped that the ability to confer such dutics as were specified in the Bill, upon ome of their own ofticers, would never be conferred u!mn the Governinent by the Senateâ€"would never, indecd, be entertained. Extraordinary powers have frequently been given to Governments to meet extraordinary emergencics, to meet some particular.case that might arise, bu; he conld not consent to confer any such extraâ€" ordinary powers upon a Government, when the existing laws are suflicient to ticet the alleged object sought to beattain«d, Hs conâ€" tended that Harbor Commissionâ€"rships and Harbor Masters was a power vested by the Act of Union in the Local Legislatures, and which the Hon. Minister of Marige admits to | be atrictly correct, and what then does the Bill mean by requiring that the whole control, management, and supervision of these matters, the classification of vessels, and direction of trade, should be in the hands of the Minister of Marine, He certainly objected to the conâ€" fe:rring of a T:wer which . the Minister of luhl:'hl_nu states he is not prepared to exerc . Hon. Mr, MFTCHELL had no objection | whatever to the fullest possible discusâ€" sion of _ every detail, as well as oll the general principle of the Bill, which as a matter of course, would be afforded when the Bill came into Committee of thy whole, and he should indeed be most happy | to receive any suggestion from hon. member«, and would gladly weigh anyâ€"recommendaâ€" tions which should then be made for its amendme=nt and improvement. | _ Mon, Mr, MITCHELLâ€"It will enable me | to take all the steps preliminary to the formaâ€" | tion of such an association, and to the framâ€" inz of measures having a tendency to advance I and protect our maritime and commercial inâ€" i terests. _ Mon. Mr. MACPHERSON did not certainâ€" ly perceive that it was nscessary to give the Minister of Maurine and Fisheries any such power as he claimed the right to possess. In time, no doubt, a Canadian Lloyds would spring up, but he did not believe that at any time under ~ the close and> immediate, he might say direct, supervision of the Canadian Government, such an institution wodld pro«â€" per. Oue thing certainly occurred to him, and that was that the Bill should be freed from all ambiguities. Already there was an Act which had been introduced by the Hon. Postmasterâ€"General, then Commissioner of Crown Lands, regulating the fisheries, and this Bull, it appeared to him, attempted to do precisely the same thing, and in fact would override the Act now in existence. \ Hon. Mr. McCULLÂ¥Yâ€"Not at all.‘ The Union Act keeps all those things intact. | Mospay, Dec. 2, 1867, | (Continued.) | . Hon. Mr. MITCHELLâ€"Before anything is | done of such a nature, he might be permitted to assure the House that gvery detail would be submitted to PxvliameBt; but it was not, in his opinion, the thing for a frse people to submit to be at the mercy of any mere assoâ€" ciation of private individuals in remote counâ€" tries. i Hon. Â¥y. MACPHERSONâ€"If the Hon. Minister of Marine and Fisheries does not seek, or rather intend using, the power which the Bill gives him, why is any such power mentioned in the llil 9 & CANADIAN ~PARLIAMENT, Tat PARLIAMENT : Isr SESSIOXN VHEâ€"SENATE Trsspay, D. 3, 1867 tal operatiogs in the Provinces, tor 513.;';.:».“%:.- were Pee S i en orat hindtett at F-u'.‘.:o;'{..’. yorgl / vanjages country received from the enterprise. yment of $60,000 by the Post Office h ghoyld be borne in waiid in ‘the relatiye resyits of poâ€"tal operations in the Provinces, tor as he to no rh’n.od this #7°0°°" pet anoum, | Phat year the line sufâ€" fer. d several grare -rap-, and it fell gomeâ€" what into diste , the result was that the contract was lmfl. The fifth contract was made in 1864 for a weekly service, and at th« rate of $218,000 per annum, Ofllnhun, as l1e had n.muu Office Department was charged as their share of the gervices rendecred by the line to the country, the hataman halme Spers®ioce and the Government llh;dvr;ll-‘ ’cm,ooo yer anoum, That year the line the same fiom for a ?l'fifilyv;;v?n;;-l;i' ;h;; received $:20,000. ‘he mext was entered inâ€" to in Apfl"_l_ 1860, again with the samy house, Hon. Mr, I'Ellfilâ€"'l'hi- was not th wh Je subsidy. Hon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"No, only part of it. Autcriogp to 1861 sevyral contracts were made for the ocean mail ice. ‘The first was with the firm of McLarty and Co., of Liverâ€" po:!, which broke down within less than a year. The next was with the Mossre. Allan of Montrcal who were paid £24,000 per annum for a fortnightly service. ‘The next was with THE OTrFAW A [IMES, DECKMBER 35, : â€"~â€", TADCCRAEERTO Of embraced a sum of $6©,000 charged to l::o Department as part contribation to the subsidy paid by the Govâ€" eriment for the ocean mail steamers. the Lower Rrovinces for last yearcould not be stated as no returns had yet reached the Doâ€" partinent. 1t was also proper to state that the expenditure of Canada embraced a sum of q | &» so far back as 1851, as that would have enâ€" tailed an unnccessary labor upon the officers, but be had commenced the comparison with the year 1860, and taken the revenues and exâ€" e | penses in the several Provinces, The results would probably appear somewhat favorable to Canada, and he thought the principal reason e | would be found in the collection of news: o | paper postage, ‘The postal revenue in Caâ€" 1â€" | nada in 1861 was $683,034 and the expendiâ€" ture $719,056, showing a defivit of $326,022 or 8} percent on revenue. In New Brunswick for the same year the revenus was $16,058 o | and the expenditure $71,187, showing a d: fivit â€" | of $24,529 or 524 per cent. In Nova s»-ounj‘ 1 | for the same year the revenue was $40,052 and y | the expenditure $69,444, showing a deficit of y | $29,392 or 73 percent. In 1862 in Canada r | the revenue was $723,052 and the expenditure , | $750,514, showing a surplus of $27,462 or 4 o | per cent. In New Brunswick the revenue for I | the same year.was $46,489 and the expenditure â€" | $69,625, showing a deficit of $23,156 or 50 | | per cent. In Nova Scotia for the same year : | the revenue was $45,100 and the expenditure | | $68,305, showing a dficit of $23,205 or 52 per | cent. In Cavada in 1863 the revenue was | $759,475 und the expenditure $13,057, show. | ing a surplus of $6,3;8 or Rearly one per cent. | In New Brunswick for the same year the revenue. was $46,146 and . the expendiâ€" | ture $67,384, showing a deficit of $21, | 241 or 46 p:rcent. In Nova Svotia for the same year the revenue was $48,174 and the expenditure $70,389, showing a deficit of $:2,215 or 46 per cent. In Canada for the | year 1864 the revenue wus $829,8905 and the | expenditure $803,962, nbowlg a surplus of | $25,843 or 3 per cent. In New Brunswick for the same year the revenue was $51,184 and | { the expenditure $71,974, showing a deficit of | i $2),790 or 39 per cent. In Nova Scotia tor | c the same year the revenue wes ”mo? and | the expenditure l‘i:,:fl, showing a deficit of | t $16,956 or 30 per t. In Canada for the | your 1865 the revenue was $834,096 and the | 1 expenditure $351,870, showing a dcficit of | : $17,773 or about 2 per cent. in New Brunsâ€" | j Wiâ€" k for the sam» the revenue was $51,â€" | t 27# and the expenditure $71,9986, showing a | 1 dufluit of $20,627 or 40 per cent. In Nova | t Bcotia for the same year tie revenus was $62,â€" | o 371 mad the expenditure $30,947, showing a | i deticit of $18,576 of 30 per cent; In Canada | a for the year 1866 the revenue was $878,413 | a and the expenditure $894,561, showing a do | n ficit of $16,147 or nearly 4 per cent, Iu New | t "Brunswick the revenue for the same year was| 8 $56,509 and t!nup:-dltuu $72,516, showing | g & d dicit of $16,036 or 30 per cent. . In Nova | s Scutia for the same year the revenue was $69,« | th 010 and the expenditure $36,127, showing a | c« deficit of $17,116 o&u per.cent. In Canada | w for the year, 1867 the revenao was $914,783 | h «nd the ex nditure, $924,319, showing a deâ€" | ta Ifl"d $9,536 or 1 per cent. ‘The results for | of H »n. Mr.CAMPBELLâ€"Then the registration aystem differed in the several Provinces. In Canada the registration fee was 2 vents, always prevald ; in Now Brunswick 5 cents, when _pr paid, and 10 conts when. not; in Nova Scotia it was 10 cents,and must be always preâ€" paid.. With respect to dead letters the sysâ€" temis were very much the same. They wore kept three months, and if not applied for were op. ned to tind the owners.. Then the modes of . ntering into mail contracts were diffcrent. In Canada the Post Office Department was obliged to accept the lowest tenders, unless ‘th: re were strong reasons for refusing, but those ren ons had to be reported to Parliament. In the Lower Provinces there was no statutary provisions on that subj«ct, and the arrangâ€" m uts were left to the decision of the Postâ€" masterâ€"General, ‘These divergencies had all . anpervened sincs the transfer of the postal service to the several Provinces by the Imâ€" psuial Government in 1851. The resualts would best be understood probably by exhibiâ€" ting the receipts and expenditure of the Posâ€" tal Departmentsin these Provinces for 5 or 6 years. He had not deemed it necessary to ter ke; op of + In : ob\ Hon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"In Canada pattorns and samples were also carried by ma‘", but he was not aware that any arrangement of this kind existed in the Lower Provinces. In Caâ€" nacda the correspondence of all the Public Ds partments was free; in New Bruaswick only Poâ€"t Office Department letters were fhe. Mon. Mr. lp:cULLYâ€"ln the Lower Proâ€" vinces all the official correspondence was charged, and the Post Office Department eredited with. the amount. lon. Mr. MoCULLYâ€"Â¥Yes, a parcel post had lately been established. in Nova Scotin, was collected from the subscribers quarterly in wivance, but if the postage was only paid at tie time the papers were delivered the charge was one cent per paper. In all the Provinces exclhanges were carried free of charge.‘ The rat« in Canada on periodicale was one cent per 4 cunces, in New Brunswick 2. In Nova ‘ Scotia when sent from the office of publication they were free, when sent otherwise 2 cents. In Canada books were carried at 1 cent per ounce; in New Brunswick there was no mail br>â€"=vstâ€"m and as far as he had ascertained non« in Nova Scotia. lon. Mr, MeCULLÂ¥Y â€"Yes, we have that privilege. llon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"Notwithstanding the general principle in Canada there wers excuptions, as papers and small peiindicals relsting to education, temperance and se nce wer. free, but in New Brunswick all were free. In Nova Scotia one cent an ounce was charged on cach periodical. â€" In Canada there was a parcel pust which carried packages up to 3 lbs. for 25 cents, in the Lower Provinces there was not any, m t md as. well as religious periodicals, were carried without charge, the others paid ome cent. â€" In Canada papers sent from the publishing office wers chaurged one balf cent and the amount Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL must have been misâ€" informed, but he thougbht he had learned it from official reports. In Nova Scotia letters from Halifax were sent by the Cunard steamers to loston for 10 cents, and from the intérior for 13} cents. In all the colonies the postage on books and printed matter was paid to the fromtiers of the United States, and the United States paid their own to the British frontiers in the same way. He now came to the im portant part of the measure and one concerning whicl. prohbably some difference of opinion would be fonnd to exist in the minds of hon. memâ€". bors from the Lower Provincesâ€"he alluded to the postage on newspapers. In the Lo-er‘ Provinces this service was free. In New Brunswick whether the papers were sent from the office of publication or were mailed by inâ€" dividuals, there was no charge for postage. In Nova Scotia British and Colonial papers, Hou.â€" Mr. ODELL said that the system of dro,» letters in New Brunswick did not exâ€" temi to American frontier towns ; this was a mis ipprehension. ter. . In two of the Provinces which chicfly used the Cunard line the same rate was paid on mails by Halifex, but in Canada if the corâ€" respondents availed theinselves of the Cunard line, the rate was 17 cents or 12} cents, and 24 »terling for United States transit rate, fixed by an agreement ‘between the United States and Great Britain. In Nova Scotia corresâ€" powlents using the Allan line paid 5 cents extra to cover the postage to Portland. In Cunada books and samples were brought by the occan steamers for 34 sterling per 4 Britain it was 12} cents by the Allan line of stearoers, which sailed from Montreal and Quebec in summer and from Portland in winâ€" to pay them io Ti Phuay "C T ROL think it would bu-onlbuwt"w years before the invome and expenses were equalized, _ The calculations hhd-u-'uum,u. W‘%' uss to use whether his expoctitions & VR en e cusmn @ i Pic s a | measure, related to the charge on local letters, va | to newspaper postage, to the time for p&llflll },» | of the latter, and to the establishment of Sayvâ€" a | iugs Banks. He was somewhat embartassed ia | as to which subject he should treat of first. He 3 | did not suppose, however, that any objection + | would . be made to the reduction on w | the rate of lotter postage. Every body is | seemed disposed to pronounce this at least a g | good measure, though some ne#spapers had a | said the Bill did not go far enough, and that ,â€" | the. rate should have been reduced to two a | cents. . They saw some charm in the figure 2 a ) which they did not sce in the figure 3, but he 3 | himself could not discover it, In Great Bii. â€" | tain to be sure the rate was 2 cents, but it was r | only after a ‘long time that it had succeeded, e | When the rate was reduced to that charge the â€" | Postal reyenue showed a surpius of a million e | and a half of pounds sterling, but it was only { | within two or three years that the Department t ’ had reached the position as to -ur£lu revenue > | it had twoenty years ago. Then England was | a very differeat country from Canada. Here +/ we bad long distances to c.l.::{ the mails and through a sparse population, whereas | there the reyerse was the case. ‘The analogy | was greater in respect to the United Stutes, | | and yet even there the advantages were | greaterthan in this country, and there the tate ;] was 3 cents, Yet after much careful conâ€" |â€" sideration and counse} with the Deputy Post. | master.General, who he had no hesitation to say, |. | was one of the most valuable odicers this or | { any other country ever ha, he bad resoived to | ; | recommend a prepaid letter rate of 3 cents in | | | future, and this he thought was as low as it | | was possible to go. In doing so the country | t would hav â€" to meet a considerable deficie, y, | t ‘Im. i:ivu done u"::l:‘rl c(mnmum vl.xth t made bim sanguine n a short wot 1 uov-mwu-wuhwuuu&‘: a his opinion it was desirable that the Postal | e service should be expected to yie}d a revenue. | t Posstule, and it it pald Ts Ray tnee wae an tyat | t * ts way was i1 mh desired, Bat {:'fil‘ ty the exâ€" | a ‘ of the past and prospoct o(‘u- it emased cortvspondence, ho did not think it | w Foui, "ol" fonaded. , The revenue for the whole h in 1867 was estimated at 1 P uen Bichuse hss caal Abi sc 4 conc‘usions he bhad drawn as to the compara. tive results of the Postal systems in the several Provinces. Now ic was with ;uflmlleu to ll‘n: Poot;l lurvlcoh and ostage charges thuse Provinces, the stage which he had described, . that the present Bill was prepareqand ub-m-ds The muin changes proposed to be made y the Sevva inb ud To k Psn C D prhainivee? gripen Hhi ud css in . s h arictais breacd thought, operated against the Lowe Provia. ves, for wh‘::e Canada might collect more than the $60,000 it paid for the scrvice, the Imâ€" r:rhl Government received all was col. ected in those Provinces for the samé kind of service, except a V\'g small fraction. \ . Hon, Mr. CA MPB LLâ€"Well, the facts menâ€" tioned by the hon. nembcr, subject to correc» tion, no dourc modificd in some degree the S id t P y cce PC Hon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"Was all the se postage on such letters in the Lower Provin ces paid to the Imperial Government ? Hon. Mr. ANDERSONâ€"It was all paid Ln:‘o the Commissariat for the Im grial Post Office. _ _ Hon. Mr. Hon, Mr. ANDEBSONâ€"P«M the post. age collected by Canada on the letters carried by its Occan Mail Line might than deâ€" fray this sum of $60,000, whe the Im. perial Government had the benefit of all the Ocean postage to and from the Lower Proâ€" vinces. * I @EDOCC 227 CUCHN MHI DeTVICE, Hoo. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"It was charged with other sums under the head of payment for Steamboat Service. ‘There were several other items coming under the same head : for instance $1,000 per trip was p.ltto.linc which went to the Lower Ports, £1,000 for Stcambuat Service on the Ottawa, another sum to the steamers between 6::!;«. and Montreal, and others besides, | Hon. Mr. WILMOT said he did not see in the Canada Postal Accounts the charge of $60,000 for:Ocean Mail Service. make 50,000 more. . As to postage stamps sold in Canadaâ€"in 1866, they amounted to $180,000, in New ‘Brunswick to $38,000, and in Nova Scotia in 1865 to $54,000. . The next item was the money order business, | In Canada in 1866, the issues were $1,720,000 ; in New Brunswick $.80,000 and in Nova Scotia in 1865, $378,000. The charges upon money orders were the same in all the Provinces, _ For sterling orders drawn on Great Britain, the commissions were for £2 and under, 25 cents ; for £5 and under, 50 cents ; for £7 and under, 75 cents ; and for £10 and under, $1. The Local Orders were issued at § per cent on the amount. In Canada they were ';mdukd by steps of $20 and in the Lower Provinces by $10, the Departments having the benefit of the fractional differences of commission between the smaller and larger sums. Here the hon. Postmasterâ€"General reâ€" peated his conviction that the results were in favor of the Canadian system, and that on the whote it might be considered as highly satisâ€" factory. . + Canada, he bogged to state a few figures. The ’ number of post officcs in Canada in 1866, were 2,333, the numberof miles of mail travel 0,500,000; the number of letters 14,000,000 and newspapers 14,200,000. In New Brunsâ€" wick the same year, there were 46 post offices and 302 way offices, the number of iniles of mail travel 779,000, and letters carried 1,738,â€" 000. In Nova Scotia in 1865, mn were 81 post oftices and 513 way offices ; the number of miles of mail travel 1,005,000 md of letters carricd 1,725,000. He had seen official reâ€" cord of the number of newspapers carried in wither of the Lower Provinces, but Imm a newsâ€" paper articleâ€"copied into the Oitawa Truzs, he learned that in New Brunswick in 1265, they amounted to 3,729,00v, exclusive of those brought by the Occan Steamships which might J Mon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"Well, the results were doubtless strongly shown by the larger revenues in Canada, _ As to the extent of the services rendered by the Postal System of Canada, he bogged to state a few figures. The number of post officcs in Canada in 1866, Hon, Mr. MITIMHELL said he held in his :nnd the accounts, and no such charge appeared n them. I Hon, Mr. MoCULLY repeated that the Govâ€" erament in Nova Scotia paid the railways for the Postal Service, for he hiimself had been in charge of the railways, and knew that some difficulty had arisen as to the amount which should be allowed them thercfor. hon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"No ; but they bad formed large accumuilations over what the Government had deemed themselves bound to E‘ly. The difficulties were arranged by an arâ€" tration composed otf M:, Uhancellor Blake, Hon. Jadge Day and Mr. Wicksteed. The claims were adjusted and the awards paid, and on the recommendations of the arbitrators, certain rates of remuneration for the future were adopred. ‘The Grand‘Tronk was paid $150 per mile, per annum, which last year amounted to $150,275; the Great Western $124 per mile, per anoum, being less of an: artery than the Grand Trunk, and the g:ross sum paid the company last year was $44,237. Other and smaller railways serving as col: lateral lines were paid 8 cents per train, per mile on passenger train«, on mixed trains with a post offi¢e car 6 cents and on ordu'ufy trains 2 cents, ‘{o' he was under the impression that there was no equivalent payments for Postal Service in the Lower Provinces, but hs the hon. member .(Hon. Mr. McCully) had stated there were in Nova Scotia, at. least it must, of course, be so. ‘The hon. Minister of Marine had just informed him that there were .eo railway mail charges made in New Bruosâ€" wick, Now, taking these facts into consideraâ€" tion, he thought he was entitled to say that after the statements he had produced the reâ€" sults of the postal system in Canada were very strongly marked in its favor. _ Hon,. Mr. BOTSFORDâ€"Were theseclaims over and above the sums stated for the service ? Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL â€"â€"Well, there was no trace of such arrangement that he had seen in the Public Accounts of that Province. The pay ments in Canada by the Post Oftice Departâ€" ment to the railways were very large, and had been causes of serious disputes, which, howâ€" ever, had been finally satisfactorily settled. Hon. Mr. MoCULLY could speak for Nova Scotia, and happened to know ‘that in that Province the railways were paid at a certain rate per mile for carrying the mails. ‘The Railâ€" way Commissioners debited the post office and the Government recredited the Department., Hon. Mr. CAMPBELLâ€"Then there were other large differences against Canada. For instance it paid large sams for Railway Service, but it did not appear from any reports he had ever geenâ€"tbat the Post Office Departments in the Lower Provinces were charged anything for this service, although they had considerâ€" able lines of railway. Hon. Mr. MoCULLYâ€"No ; but the Imperial Government receives the whole of the Ocean Mail Postage, to and from those Provinces, whereas Canada receives the postage on the mail matter carried by its steamers. MoCULLYâ€"Thearrangement, he EC w‘ JQ= dhv'm m& it years before the y en« t his expectitions revenue for the was estimated at pulation, whereas ise. _ ‘The analogy the United States, wdvantages â€" were and there the tate " You have to send No o‘ oee t T Ine argument would do quite as "".'.1 Spect of letters." The newsnanee _ 2 Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL, resuming, said the argument of a tax on knowledge could not be sustained. It was not a tax, but a charge for & service rendered. Surely it could not be said with truth that the agent who cartied an arâ€" ticle at the very lowest possible cost imposed a tax upon it. ‘The reverse was rather the case, and instead of the Post Ofice hindering the circulation of papers it facilitated it in an extraordinary degree. All that was asked in ruturn was the bare cost of the service. And i v:‘h.t.nlt‘;;'r‘u was the meaning of the objecâ€" PC WRC t l ul Hon. Mr. WIERâ€"The refer to the City of Halitax S hn neiee eeeeentenne O sap io 6th, That the representatives of New Brunsâ€" wick in Parliament, who concur in the sentiâ€" ment expressed in these resolutions, be resâ€" pectfully requested to use their influence to prevent the imposition of newspaper postage, Uhe other journals published in our Province have been communicated with by telegraph, and their concurrence in the above resoluâ€" tions has been received. . + Well, as to the tax on knowledge, he must conâ€" fess he did not see much force inthe argument. A tax was an impost levied for the benefit of the State, Hon. Mr. MoCULLY here referred to some of the statements of the Postmasterâ€"General with reference to the mail matter in Nova Scoâ€" tis, and read from the Journals of the Parliaâ€" ment of that Province some items which seemâ€". ed to conflict with them, w 5th. That the carrying of newspapers imâ€" posed very littlo expense on the Post Uflice Department in addition to what is incurred by the carrying of letters; all ‘other legitimate means of raising a revenue should for this and dther rumsons already stated be exhausted beâ€" fore this noduhof doing so should be adopted. wih Wns c e NCS 2 4th. â€"That the collection of newspaper post. age, if made effective, and accompanied by proper checks and rigid surveillance over publishers‘ issue lists, must involve so much additional expenditure on the part of the post office as would tend materially to decrease the revenue derived from this source. 3rd. ‘That the imposition of newspaper postage would involve additional ‘labor, ris‘; and expense on the part of publishers, to an @xtont at least equal to the amount of reveâ€" nue detived from this source, and would therefore place additional burden on a class of persons who pay their fair share of taxation other wise. & 2ud, ‘Phat the .principle of exempting the press from postage, on the ground of its being a ineaus of promoting education, and diffusing scientific and general know‘edge, is now reâ€" gognl‘ud in the Consolidated States of being novel in the Muritime l’rovi,ncen, would be the mors severely felt, and especially in the rural district«, and wounld be appealed to as an evidence of the injurious effects of Conâ€" federation . I must in most caseshave this eff. Ist. That the. press being a prominent means of enlightening and educating the peoâ€" ple, it is unwiss to cireumscribe the sphere of its influcnee by the imposition of a tax, which of the press of New Br;l;;;lcâ€"k'. which he would now r. ad : Hon, Mr, CAMPBELLâ€"It was not of much use argciung that question, One arguâ€" mentngainst the newspaper postage was that it was n tax upon knowledge, since it was said to hinder its dissemination by meens of such newspapers. This argument had, no doubt, a specious sound, It was one of the princiâ€" pal ones contained in a series of resolations Hon, â€"Mr. WILMOT â€" Bupposing a newsâ€" paper from Canada had astamp, could it not be cartied through New Brunswick free ? Ps" i Pyplnn to c t n S Ee ts lished and despatched from the publishing offices, in the Provinces, and the rest from forâ€" sign p.“pur-, und papers mailed by private parâ€" ties, . Now in his opinion the large pustal deâ€" ficiencies in the Lower Provinces had arisen from | the relinguishment â€"of the «news, aper wcharge. Ho hud now before him the report of Mr, Odell, P M. G. tot New Brunswick, and he stated tho newspapers carried in toat Province as 3,629,000, exclusive of those which were brought by the Occan steamers, 11s whole estimate being about 4,000,000. He had no official statement for Nova Beotia, but ‘ it was said they would reach there atout 5,« 000,000, upon all of which 9,000,000 there was no pustage. Now the question for the House to consider was whether theso nine millions, with the fourteen million two hundred thouâ€" sand carried in Canada, would henceforth be free of charge ? â€" Qaebeec miust be so too,and this would juâ€" volve the surrender of at least $90,000 yearly, of which $10,000 would be from papers pub. F0 o t es us id | $1,050,000. From this gross sum thero were \ t'u'lnd'-?::uhd certain items which would not | be influenced by the change proposed. The | ocean postage, the parcel postag», the newspaâ€" per postage, and the United States postage, | fell within its category, and deducting these, | the sum of $600,000 derived from the 5 cent rate only would be affected by the reducâ€" tion. On this sum a reduction of twoâ€"fifths, or $240,000, would take place. But assuming that in consequence of the ‘change there should be an increase of 25 per cent in the correspondence (as was the case in the United States, when ib 1851 they reducâ€" ed "the rates 22 per®cent, and increased the correspondence by 30) a considerable part of the _ dcficit would already be made up. Then supposing the newspaper post. age was agreoed toâ€"a‘ proposition which he knew did not mect with tavor on the part of the Lower Province membersâ€"and applied to the whole Dominion, and morcover that the exemptions in faivor of religious, educaâ€" tional and teimperance publications â€" were abolished, there would ©# Other considerable offsets to the «oficiency. â€" These items, he thought, would {i--m auw_ increase of $10,000, and the dead letters $10,000 inore. Altoâ€" gether, the increase, the newspaper postage, the withdrawal of exemptions,and the dead letters, were expected to give $140,000, which, put against the estimated deticit ‘of $240,000, would leave unly $100,000 to be provided tor at the end of the first year. Now if his exâ€" pectations were realized, he hoped that in two years the Department would again be selfâ€" sustaining _ Me was persuaded that the more hen. inembers reflected upon the subject the more they would be satisfied that it would be injudicious to reduce the letter rate below |â€" three cents. ‘Then as to the charge on newsâ€" papers, He must tuke it for granted that whatever course was pursucd, all parts of the‘} Dominion in this respect must bé placed upon |â€" terms of «quality, It conld not be supposed that any difference should be made in favor of | any one or two Provinces, If all parts of the | Dominion were to be placed upon terms ot | ; equality in all respects, and the Lower Proâ€" | vinces must by x<mpted from the payment . i ol newspaper postage, then both Ontario and l 1 Quacbee must be so too,and this would in.| 1 mese statements only Ith Liel." U with letters ct, and which hn nsc . ~., "rA6F 20L Resitate ' to zay that he approved of the general prinâ€" ciples of the Bill now before the House, There was only one feature in it to which he hbad an insuperable objection, the purpose of phah' a tax on newspapers, and he hoped sincerely that when the Bill was in Commit. #we of the Whole, it should b; n.-la.l.M as completely to remove so objectionable a foa. ture, u-mmw.. the ingenious reason. ing of the Hon., Postmasterâ€"General with the purpose of sho#wing that the newspaper busiâ€" hness was carried on much in the same way, and with preciscly the sams view, as persons usually carry on business of whatever nature, «nd that the hewspaper proprictor ought not to be untitled to grcater advantages through the mâ€"dium of thy mails, thao all Obher norâ€" sons who used the post in vconnection with Bill Aanbaty . 4¢ 14 _3 0 SHFHHES H4GKE. ‘The Bill contained ‘uther clanges, . but they had rcâ€" spect to matters of detail, which could be gone into in Committce, Ho would just say in conâ€" clusion, that the Bill, jnstcad of conferring upon the Governor in Gounecii, as in the old Act, conferred them directly upon the Post. wasterâ€"General, This had been done, n0t to give a greater influence to that _ Minisâ€" ter, but for tho sake of convenience. The hon. member then moved, seconded by Hon, Mr. Blair, that the Bill be now read alsecond \ time«, eey wirrl e i‘ oo AusiAin a wasucsclll d m | for it would give further validity to the trans. ce | action for ten days more. â€" The accoduat would by | not be kept &t the Post Olice receiviag the te | money, but at the head ofice in this city, id | Phen {I the depositor wanted to draw out his ¢. | money, orany part of it, by the prodaction of d.] his passâ€"book, and the acknowledgment of th : sâ€" | Postmasterâ€"General in his hands, he could do iâ€" | so at any Post office empowered to do this sâ€" | kind of business. Hs# would apply to the o | Postmaster, and his application would be imâ€" e, | inediately seut to the Postmasterâ€"General, e | who by the next mail would transmit the . h, | aocessary authority to pay. This was the iâ€" | Englisn system, and as it would be scem, it afforded perfect checks and entire safety. It â€" | was proposed to limit the minimuam deposits t. | «o one dollar, upon which, when three dol. f | iars bad been Todged, intercst at the rate of tour per cent, would be allowed. ‘This would e | be equal to one cent a month, and the matter I | would be so simple that the depositor, nowâ€" | â€" | ever uneducated, could keep the account hi‘g. â€"| self, The figure 3 and its multiple was â€" | adopted because of the convenience it affordâ€" ed 10 the calculation of interest, The manage» p | ment of the business would cost between on« and two per cent. suthat the money w#ould cost > | the Government about six, which was as much : | ae they should pay, ‘The money order office | required about the same amount of labor | | | to carripit on, and the charge come to about . | the same thing. Too matter nad bseq | | earetully calculated _ in Engiand, _ and i | similar results arrived at, viz.; between | one and two for management. _ Where sums of imore than $100 were deposited | by the same person, power was taken by the | i Bill to give a receipt bearing five per cent, | ( subject, however, as in the case of interest deâ€" | ¢ posits in banks, to a certain notice befors | i withdrawal. _ When cash deposits reached $500,000 the Minister of Finance would be an. | C thorized to invest such excess in Provincial | t debentures. The object of this was twoâ€"fold. | I As interest would have to be paid, the money should be so employed as to carn it, but the | l investmerts should be of a character which in | h ease of sudden calls, could be realized. â€" The j n Minister of Finance would, of course, bay the ' A debentures at the market value, and if at & discount, it would be so imuch profit, Hc' (Mr. Campbel!) bad, however, though.t, after the Bill was printed, that authority might be | given to the Minister of Finance to substituts | new debentures in the event of Lis requiring M to realize, instead otsclling any he might have | P ’ in his hands, with only short times to run, as | * the latter would not be so likely to comâ€" mand good prices as thuse of louger periode, l Vhisamendiment conld by maidle in Committee u of the whole, There were the provisions for | de the establishment of the Saviags Baaks. The be Bill contained ‘uther clauses, . but they had reâ€" | ti, spect to matters of detail, which could be goue | ni into in Committee. He would just say in conâ€" | in clusion, that the Bill, jnstcad of conferring pe upon the Governor in Gouneii ns in 2100 °CS | 4* Hon. Mr counterbalanced by great advantages, He had, | however, already admitted that this partrcular point left room for argnent, and he would thercfore leave it for tis presâ€"ut. He hau now touched upon all the postal chances proâ€" posed, and came to the essentially | n«w teature of the Billâ€"the creation of Post 0i« Savings Banks, Thesc institations had now been established in G.â€"at Biitain for some yeal8, anu had boeu attond=d with the most satisf ctory results. 1t had ben thought of late years in Canvia, that it was proper to invest the savings 0/ the working classes with greater secuity than they actually possessed, de rather thought that on the whole the Savings Banks of the Lower Provinces had been better in this respect than thoss of Canaâ€" da. 1t was true that there had been but fow disasters in convection with thesc‘institutions even in this country, yet many hon. members: would recall some painful instances of this I kind, and if the system could be successfully . grafted in Canaca it would be a great boou to | the people. â€" The provisions embodicd in the â€" Bill were taken r»~‘>=/~» from those of (hcl Imperial Act ©Ths Hon. Postmasterâ€"General then quoted the clausâ€"*, and said it was pnul posed to open such offices in sixty or seventy uf the principal cities and towns, aad as the System became established, the namber coufd | be increased, Arfy one depositing would rcâ€" ceive a passâ€"book, in which the sum lodged would be entered by the Postmaster, to which he would sign his name andaffix theâ€"stamp of | the office, _ He would then advise the reccipt | of the amount to the Departinâ€"nt by means of | a }vrint««d letter for the parpose, and on receipt ol :t.::he l‘Mr-Gexlaenl would writ: back acknowledging the receipt of the money. The eutry in the book wup‘uld be good for ten | days and if within that period h) roceipt l :wl. not %fli the depositor, an upplication us $y L. Li siluk 128 gountry, Some of the large papers went to over oue thousand offices, and accounts had to be kept for the ton, twenty, thirty, or forty‘ subscribers at cach place, an 1 the Postmasters were ‘thus forced to act as agents for the printers. . He had now an ordinary quarterly account before him, taken up casually, just becauss it happened to be on Ris table. He might have got others that would have gerved his purpose much better. â€" 1t was that of the Postmaster of St, Hyaciuth, a town east of Montreal, containing a few thousand inhabi« tants, and he found That the office had to colâ€" lect the postage npon forty sittrent nowsâ€" papers, and three hundred and fortyâ€"two por» sons, while the whole sush received amounted to $11.17jc., and this was a sample of the labor entailed upon over two thouand Postâ€" musters, by the present system, all of which would be avoided by prepayment. . Why shoald the Postmasters have this tronble? Bat | it was said that the postage being in broken sums, it would be exceedingly diflicult to reâ€" mit them, _ Well, he thought that instead of the seventeen cents, which would be the posâ€" tage for a year on a weekly paper, the publishers could casily substitute 25 cents, | and add that to the subscription price, and | so on for â€"other classes of papers. The sÂ¥stem of prepayment would induce theadoption of the vash ayatem more extensively,; which he was« , persuaded would be an advantage to all pare ties. Itimight possibly diminish the sub. scription lists a little, but this would lx-! of whather or no, and you may as well take my fl’*llh,’ but the roan wishing to have etters carried could tarn round and allege that as the Post Oflice had to send papers along it might just as well iake his letters for noâ€" thing. ‘The argument was of equal force in both cases, Large sums were paid for the transport, for servants and appliances, and the whole receipts were expended in the service. What more can be asked? The next resolution did not contain the vestige of an argument. The difficaltics alladed to had been overcome in Canada,and could no doubt be elsewhere, Now as to the prepayment ot the charge he admitted that here there might be some room for difference of opinion. If prepayment is exacted, itâ€"will havea tendency to make the: newspaper busiaess more compact, and tbcl puvlishers will bs snove carcfal to send them | only to persons whom they will have gosd ! reason to believe will pay, The allegation that prepayment would absorb too mitch capiâ€" | tal, and that it would cnhaues the losscs alâ€" | ready too troquent, scemed to D > particularly | relied upon, . and | thors _ wore) other reasons urged busides, Woell, he had been informed that pwblishers often sent papers when th y had no expectation of paymâ€"nt, in fact distriâ€" buted a groat many gratis, but that. they did | BOURIXOT would "ged, Infercst at the rate of uld be allowed. This would enta month, and the matter le that the depositor, nowâ€" could keep the account hi‘s. 0 a certain notice befors n cash deposits reached ter of Finance would be an. such excess in Provincial bject of this was twoâ€"fold. ave to be paid, the money yed as to carn it, but the be of a character which in I se ces dn ce 1 O t WERCE , that authority might be r of Finance to substitute he event of Lis requiring selling any he might have aly short times to run, as 0t be so likely to comâ€" thuse of longer periode, ld be made in Committee : Were the provisions for MCeznCou: with the most It had ben‘ thought of , that it was proper to the working classes with they actually possessed, that on the whole the ie Lower Provinces had not hesitate > "hk ramat sel . 0 04 *993, wS, Mr. MASSON, (Soulanges,) seconded by Mr DUFRESSEâ€"Address»~ Suitement 48â€" suzs paid by Government for lots of land, or parts of lots of Isad, in effecting the finai mt “""‘-"“’Mpfllm between the late "‘""‘"'"’"" Lower Canada, &c. cad of The Bill was then read & second time, and ‘ PO#â€"| reforred to a Comunittee of the Whole on , the | Thnrsday next. f cents, | The Nenats than aflanehd Hon. Mr. ROSE replied that the Governâ€" ment intended to bring in a measure affecting the sublect, which had engaged their anxions consideration, and the motion was then with» drawn. Mr. WALSH moved the House into Comâ€" wittes of the Whole, to consider a resolution declaring it expedient that American #ilver be a lrc-!tendcrntbouhold(bc,yeemon the dollar, ana reierred to the great inconve. njence arising from the quantity of this sllver in cireulation, which had to be parted with by persons, constrained by the eonlrcmkm ot trade to take it, at a heavy l-u.l. e agmitted that any measure of change the currency should come from the Government, and only desired to click an ©xpression of their opinâ€" ion in the matter, * Upon snother question of Mr. Connell s a long discussion aross ad to the practice of hou. members putting questions to Governâ€" ment making spsecaes in . explanation, Mr. MORRIS having rlnen%fl_n point of order R inrary. A message was received from the Senate relative _to the Library Committee, After which, on the motion of Hon. Sir JOMN 4 MACDONALD, a Sclect Committec was apâ€" pointed to assist the Speaker in his direction of Library affaire, A cemasus se 2 CCROm CPmeetion, _ Hon. Mr. CONNELL asked whether it is the intention of the Government to include in the Estimates a sam for the purpose of a Geological Surrey ; if so, whether they inte ud expending any, and what portion, of that sum in the Province of “'wm'kk ? And the Hon, Mr. 8E replicd that the Government had sach an intention, and that the expenditure would be pro rata in all the Provinces. PDCZZC S° enucung a Axed rate of interest, the Hon. Ma ROSE said that the whole sub. joet was under consideration by the Cabinct. Hon. Mr. 8MI UH put.,érien of questions relating to railways in New Brunswick, rsâ€" garding which Hon. Sir John A. vndo.dd pro:ahed to consult the Local Statutes, Ki o0 ag cce cce EC AAHC In:reply to Mr. J. 8. j whether it is the intention ment to introduce a Sill thi purpose of enacting a fixed the Hon. Ma ROSE said th joot was under consideration already every heard, the sub Pog 7 ue We e apeerare | fairly, although they did not al ways report his own at the length be considered they merited, (laughter.) .Most hon, members, however, set a much Ligher value upon their own «forts | than was set upon thein by the country, (much | laughter.) With all the hegry expenses of the Intercolsnial Railway, and the Northwestern eXxtensions to be provided for, he, as au inde pendent member, was not prepared to vote $12,000 for such a purpose, «and would record his l,vute against it whenever it might come up, \(Hear, hear.) According to the proposal the ‘- }n'oum-cn columas might be filled say at nine o‘clock, and when he, or any other member, rose to delivera most able speech (Iaughter,) after that hour, there would b» ns space for bim. Any hon member fond of tulking might * take the whole fourteen columns to himself. Lt was a monstrou» proposition. (Ma h laughter,) Mr. DUFRESNE hold um(m. bout rn-lflu_. * safegnard against long speeches would by abso. Kerh oresctic ulc l & Mosars. CARTWRIGHT, MeKENXZIE BODWELL, the lutker Nemnrk Lrce Wow Mr. DUFRESNE held thatthe b safegnard against long speeches wor lute verbatim reporting (langhter.) After some further discussior | Wenxesoay, December 4th. The SPEAKER took the Chair at nine l minutes past three o‘clock. | _ After the presentation of petitions, the Com. mittee on Banking and Commerce reported ‘ upon the fl}:uk of Upper Canada Bill, and > Mr. MCKENZIE presented the Fourth Reâ€" | port ‘of the Joint ‘ Committce on Printing, | (postponing, at the suggestion of Hon. 8i J_ | A. Mucdonald, i toâ€"mutrow, his motion for | the adoption of their Third) embodying tho | R=port of the Sub Committee on the subject | of preserving an Official Retord of the Debates of Parliament, for which they recommendcd the employment of competent reporters for the procuction of a volums in the style of »Hansard, the publication of which in Freuch as well as English, was estimated to cost {lor n session of sixty days and an average report of / fanrtcen columas of 1,400 words each, daily) $12,019, _ As in England it was propos. «d to allow hon. members to make any verbal vorrections which the first edition might be found to require, Mr. Ddlil®. MACDONALD feared that such a report would be the occasion of long speecher, instancing the occasion of a similar report beâ€" ing made of thedebates relative to Confederaâ€" tion at Quebec as belng the caus :s of speeches lasting for two days. HS Woped thut soms check would be put upon those gentlemen who are eternally on their legs. (Laughter.) Mr. F; JOXES belicved that the country did not feel very deeply on the subj:ct, and was not extremely anxious for such a report as had been suggested. ‘The reporters for the different hewspapers gave the substance of all gpeeches e o e ns ie nk Pu% Mon. Sir J, A. MACDONALD objected to the proposal to‘ permit any such revision, which would destroy altogether the valne of the report, and thought it better to employ a com petent editor. â€" hi Â¥entent to give an answer now, and be trusted the hon. member would not insist upon one., Hon. Mr, BOURINOT having drawn attenâ€" tion to the special requirements of Cape Breâ€" ton, expressed himselt as being sorry tor hav» ing detained the Mouse.so long, the more es. pocially as opportunity for farther discussion would be afforded him, and sat down, y ' their business had, he could not belp exprey ¢ | ing Ips belicf that the imposition of a POstage t | rate on newspapers would be extremely i}f t4. g | ceived in Nova Scotia, where no sUch fate u-‘hlul hitherto existed. | When in lhm..';_ i | had frequent opportunitics of asce:taining th g ’ feeling with regard to this maticr, Wichory : | indoed, it had been attempted to Place a .| tax upon . newspapers, ‘the attempt hag 1 lvinvui:b!y been resigted. A postage Tike . ] on newspapers was looked upon as a tax upon :\ knowledge, and in his jodgment mot incor. 4 rectly so. The newspaper was a ‘ great and : | sometimes an only means of disscmin sting im, | formation. Many who never read bouks reag : ‘ the newspaper. _ Its cheapness, its populanty, | the diversity of the matters npon which ig ‘ l treate, and especially the news which it | necessarily coutains, ‘making it. a w lcome moscuger to the backwoodrman. _ Oftep | whete no book is seen, a newspapcr is to by ’ tound. To the poorer classes especially as g mouns of inforcation the Dewspaper is inâ€" | valuable, HMe knew of nothing which coulg creale more dissatisfaction generally thay would the imposition of a newspaper Dostage, which certainly would be regarded in the Tight, â€" of a tax; but in Nova Scotia particularly the img» | position of euch a duty tpon NeWSPRAPCT®, fop it could be regarded in no other light, woulg ! make Confederation most unpopular. It wify | raise a feeling which it will be dificultty allay ; and assuredly he hoped and bolicved that every gentloman in that House from the â€" Lower Provinces would oppose the im port, The Hon, Postmasterâ€"»General also ‘proposed a tax upon periodicals, such as the Londoy Qaarterly, the Etinburgh, Blackwood, ang I}uch scrials as 'lkplu Bar, London Society, &c., which, in hi\ opinion, was much too | heavy. He hoped that when the Bill was brought up in committee, these matters would \be attended o, and he would only torthr re. mark that in the coming changes which the new ordcr of things must bring about, that the interests and long services of the geatles" man at the head of the Postal Service in Nova Scotia, a gentleman greatly *estcemed, and whose services had boen most valuable, would not be overlooked. /M« trusted that in the carfying out of the proposed changes that gentleman would be provided for if displaced, and he wouldask the Postmasterâ€"Genmeral â€" Hon. Mr. CA MPBELL hoped thathe would not be required to displace any one, but with regard to the future disposition of officers of the Department, it would be extremely inconâ€" Th« Senate then adjourned [ELL, the latter i;u;}iâ€"fuâ€"‘-'t;‘;'e.v: ) every member was desirous of bein the subject dropped. QUssTIONs. HOUSE OF COMMOXs ANMERICAX siuvge 1 arose ad to the practice of pulting questions to Governâ€" the intention of the Governâ€" uce a !hl‘l this Ssssion for the fevew e e e he ner on he Government, and only expression of their opinâ€" â€"â€"â€"â€"sult 6 4. discussion â€" between Ros:, who asked , and cing i lnx.un not l“ ‘ groat and in lliug 1. houks reag 6 .'ulu-.i "lui(fi‘. which it it would befor Dominion that ud westward | imagine*, one voke question would not be n enter upon mi Regarding the « the colonisttic Saskatchewan « fccupred t th € not adspted # and was only # which the c t ie Mfl among . whom employed to 1 Government, dence, during t intrior basin, cally far to the production of ; quite equal to were then ass sulted number «4 many of the cupy the How from them. _1 releren e 10 U u.uc.ft to explote pass over whic to examine th pher‘s specul Provinces had what was me own protectia tion to the un this cont «delibcrations scheme of Uni Imperial Gow« fore, and ratit Among the an Act contained unite all territ acknowl: dgin; was not wi fail to put ple inhaviting :“mhil Dritish statesr «ud the #pect pher thad bee unite theseâ€" Bri from one ocei l.dl-puq to inform the Toseer mhien h Hon. Sir J. cept the bon. they should which was in one, and Iy satisfactory mier, in reply that he had further bigge: Chateauguay ing otherwise and had far friend‘s wou‘ld much would always infront. ( the resolu! pert of the Baskatcl for setthâ€"ment x tract of aral propose the | affecting the finding, along tains, such a volame refen wminerals, and very feworabl statement of 1 Hon. Mr. H« in the Speech | of expenditure Government creasing the n that the | seÂ¥cre, and make it im officer re to be able to j members on to hon. mem statement betore them, mect on be prepared to te â€" of Supply . whickâ€"to bri Government from the On the cal Hon. Mr. (‘“‘l' «lon 0t piescnt the and expendit 1867, as also ment sitce 1 these acc there, which of a colony wi l-:lo'pu“ which wa« tt «ible for the 1 thomseives near its tora very partic duties. The ernment of i the claim w the whole tri MLM ada at 1 the charter. rection until «i that noth transfer to us whale of this cil to an add We shall bol« ment .of all vanced to an of the claims who assert t« This Bill a third time The report upon last nigi later in the c« tim«, the DoX Aol}), th toâ€"morrow . Hon. Mr. | Exceliency‘s Instructions to express t though ho a assumed to right at all Aisly rounm them, could which it th