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Ottawa Times (1865), 8 May 1868, p. 2

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‘if! A semiâ€"clerical looking young man ‘of polishcd exterior and good addrss spent a few days in Ottawa in the carly part of the week, having come frgm the United Stat s on the pretence of giving importaot information rlative to the murder of Mr. McGee.: His movements wors not very assuring to the keen observation of those entrusted with the investigation, and hbis iaformation â€"was " We h;on-rcvio-ly expressed the hlhl‘ that the nion of Canada could quite as well as Victoria afford to pay its Governor £10,000 stg. ; and that there is no great credit in bringing ourselves down to the level of a colony like Jamaica. We are still of this teâ€" lief. But we tbave neversaidâ€"ws have never thought of conveying the ider, that this sumâ€" should not be made to cover all the " miscelâ€" laneous expenses" of the gubernasotial r+siâ€" dence. 1f Parliament is to go through the mere farce of seeming to cut down the Govâ€" ernor‘s salary, and thus relieve His Excelienâ€" cy of ths duty of entertainfng, whic. is so necessary to the proper mainterance of vice regal state, whilst at the same time more than the sum which has been lopped off will be wade up in other ways, we do not s:e that the country will gain very much by the change which has been made." ces general attehtion by his poking into ail cornâ€" ors around the Rassell Hocsâ€", and finally apâ€" plied to Mr. O‘Reilly for a Governmâ€"nt sitaa tion. ‘Upon this Mr. O‘Reilly askcd him for a certificate of character which our hero proâ€" duced, as under. Ia the meentime other partics having been on bis track, and Mr. O‘Reilly,desiring some ind« pendent testimony «s to his character, procured the second certifiâ€" cute from a trustworthy source, which when put alongside that of the clergyman presents a somewhat curious contrast ! The enquiries instituted, concerning this American visitor, satisfied the authorities that he was attempting to impcse upon them, but if his object, as is generally believed, was to make a haul from the Government, he was completely cbeckâ€"mated, for he was dismissed, after having Leen made aware of the discovery of his true character, an1 without having secuted a cont. . Frdm the fact that hs bas been «cmy oye l as a Â¥enian drill instructor, TheGlobe ol yesterday announces that there is to be no Special Commission issued for the trial of the prisonersâ€"that «* such is @# Mr. Sxtgnortenp Macpaxato‘s decision." . If the matter has been finally determined in this way it will be generally regretted here, though from the tone of both the Leader and Globe we must infer that opinion in the Provincial Capital favors the delay of the trials until the Fall Assizes. The Globe admits the force of some of the reasons urged in favor of the Commission, but commends the decision of ‘ the Ontario Premier. * t Tas Leader takes ground against the issue bf a Special Commission for the trial of the prisoners now in custody, charged with comâ€" plicity in the, murder of Mr. McGzes, and trusts that the Local Government will resist the appeals mage to it on that behalf, holding that the law should take its course. It is quite ‘rue, that under ordinary circumstances that would be eminently proper ; but as this is a case of an entire!y exceptional character, requiring in its elucidation more time perâ€" haps than 1s ordinarily allotted to the whole Assizes in any two counti‘s in Ontario, it is quite clear that a reason existe for a Special Commission, entirely independent of the conâ€" sideration of popular feeling for swift justice. The Leader truly represents the feeling of the country, when it says that **there is no desire that any one should suder punishâ€" ment beyond his deserts ;‘ but we cannot see that the expediting of a tmal by a few months is at all likely to lead to the consequence hinted at ; on the contrary, the lapse of time involves the risk of losg of testimony, a loss as likely to fall npon ane party tm a amit . m# another, and the Special Commission, while _ giving _ equal~~ _ facilities /for the dispensation â€" of evenâ€"nanded jusâ€" tite, has chis merit over the Fall Assize Courts, that it would spare all parties conâ€" cerned the delay and uncertainty which the latter involves. _ However, as we have said before, the question‘is not one for us to proâ€" nounce upon. . Those who know the ftacts of the case better than we do, and who are responsible for the due administration of the law, will no doubt arrive at a correct conclu; sion: In the meantime, we believe we are worrect in saying that public opinion in this part of the country is unanimous in favor of the view to which we gave expression a few days ago. speedily discovered to be worthless, if not made entirely of © whole cloth." He attracted tons or‘less to be subjected to the payment of such duty more than once in any one year, hor any other vessel more than twice in one year. For the maintenance of the River and Harbor Police, a duty of three cents per ton reJister on all vessels entering from sea. Tus Hon. Mr. Ross, yesterday, gare notice of a series of resolutions respecting the tonnage dues. It may ‘be recollected that he stated in his budget speech that those which had herctofore been injposed for the support of lighthocses would be removed. The duties proposed to be collected hereafter are as follows: For the relief of sick and d’ifnblal mariners, two cents per ton register on vessels arriving from sea, no vessel of 100 We are glad to see it stated that W. M. Witsox, Esq., has b¢een appointed Judge of the County of Norfolk. ‘This announcement will be heard with satisfaction by Mr. Wirâ€" sox‘s many friends throughout the country. to Le WiTtit respect to the petition of Mr. T. K. Raxsay, setting forth grounds for impeachâ€" ing Mr. Justice prvumox», we may mention that Mr. Clmn.uiL who presented it to the House, gave notice yesterday of a motion to refer it to a Select Committee for inquiry, anid report. _ as On no occaston will the names of Old Advoertisements be inserted Tenders for Convict Laborâ€"D. .Â¥. Macdonell Auction Sale of Brewers‘ Stockâ€"James Gow. Auction Sale of Mink Skinsâ€"LB. Tackaberry ChrOttawa Cimes The Leader says :â€" â€" For notices of Property for Sale or 'IM’OI"AI‘L-,“ & NEW ADVERTISEMENTS FR THE BIFER BIT. MDAY, XAY 8, 1868 Tus New Pouics Arpors tuexts.â€"The names of the new policemen appointed on Wednesâ€" day evening are Durocher, Todd, Holland, Acres and McGarry. â€" Constable John Brown has been promoted to the rank of Sergeant, s0: that now there ars two Sergeants in the force. Sergeant Brown is an old and des=rving offi ser and nis promotion gives general satisfaction. Tus Locusemxe Interssr.â€"We are sorry to learn that in consequence of the scarcity of water in the Ot‘awa river this spring, none of the saw wills will run a night gang, as the saw logs cannot be got out of the small creeks in the lumbering country, This is the more to be regretted as‘it deprives many tamilies in this locality of the means of subsistâ€"nce on which they have beretofore relied. Larcexy.â€"Two girls, named Margaret and Kate O‘Connor, servant girls in the «mploy of Mr. Michael Kavanagbh, were arrested last night for purloining some articles of wearib.g apparel. \Taking advantage, as it appears, of the death of Mrs. Kavanagh, they are alleged to have gathered up sundry articles which did not belong to them, and put them in their trunks. One of them was discharged, aod the other left with\her last evening. Being suspected, they were followed and arrested with the goods in their possession, and put in the lockâ€"up, The circumstances of the case will be made public at the Police Court this morninz. Msssrs. Young & itadford having secured the services ot firstâ€"class working jewellers in etruscan, filagree, plain, fancy and solid gold work, and having made large additions to their work shop are now better prepared to execute any orders with which they may be entrusted than heretofore. Masonis jowels, gold and silver medals, and every kind of goidâ€"and silver work done on the shortâ€"st possible notice. Remember the place, 30 Spacksâ€"st., and encourage home manufacture. Pensox aztâ€"Yesterday afternoon Lad ;Monck and the Hon. Miss Monck, honored thé Proâ€" testant Hospital with a visit. The President, Judge Armstrong, and Dr.Grant, AMP., escorted the distingnished visitors over the building, every part of which they minutely inspected, and were pleased to express their entire satisâ€" faction with ths general arrangements of the institution. They eépecially commended the care and attention which was evident in the management of the sick, and the cleanliness which everywhere prevails. The vigit was ex‘remely gratifying to the poor patients, and he kind enquiries of the noble ladies as t» ttheir condition, and wishes for their speedy recovery, will be long and gratefully rememâ€" bered. . % [Baxx Stazer Cucros.â€"the corner stong of this Church will be laid toâ€"day, at haltâ€"past new‘clock. The Rev. Mr. Moore, Pastor of Church, will direct the ceremonies. A w of members of Parliament, and other ‘mlhd gentlomen, will assist. The public are invited to attend. . Tae Frewars Loesaticâ€"In the case of the lunatic we noticed yesterday, in which the pétient was refused admission to the jail, a warrant was issued which will have the effect of bringing the case t trial probably toâ€"morâ€" row, and it is to bs hoped that it will settle the question as to what shall be done in simiâ€" lar cases. * \Tms Waitasz.â€"Although for the last few hts we have had severe frosts, vegetation roughout this region looks well, ‘The fall agd spring wheat looks remarkably healthy aridâ€"quite able to bid defiance to the worst that the frost can reasonably be expected to do. | Avemon Saue Toâ€"oay.â€"Mr. Tackaberry, tiqneer, advertises to sell toâ€"day, at hisaucâ€" n rooms, Rideau street, a number of very migk skins. â€" Parties intâ€"rested would do II to ‘attend, as the stock must be gold. at 2 g‘clock. | The comt sat again yesterday, when the me¢ Butler vs. Church, taken up on Wednesâ€" ov‘}nln‘, was resumed. T.hin was a suit ught against the representative of the late illiam Hodging, for the specific performance an nkmnont for the sale of land alleged ‘the plaintiff to have been made by the late illiam Hodgins, in his lifetime, and since death the property had beon resold by his pfistnhtivu. The defendants‘ contention was that the agreement for purchase hxf been ven up by the plaintiff before . Hodgins‘ . 4 This case occupied the court all day, :not concladed when our reporter left. Graxb Coxcert.â€"We beg to reming our Lof&- grand concert which takes place morrow evening at the theatre. } Tas New Cucron at New Eomsscrou. â€"The ying ¢f the corner stone of this church will e plack toâ€"morrow, at 11 a.m. The cereâ€" y will be performed by His Excellency. | Avcrion Sars tuis Evexiso.â€"Remember the auction sale of dry goods this evening at T _'cloclk, at Prud‘homme‘s store, Sussex street. Great bargains may be had. \! Tes \Conermoatiowat Cuorow. â€" We are i*fol’.*l that the Rev. Alex.. McGreggor, from k , will, D. V., preach in the Congreâ€" ti Church, mnext Sabbath morning and evening. | Fisz coral jewellery, bog oak jewellery and l{hmicollooflu of other goods suitable for QM+' and other presents can be seen at io:lg ‘& Radford‘s ; all new and choice goods wilt ve‘soid cheap. * | WTOCAL N EW S To all to whom it may concern that â€"â€"â€" e bearet, whose acquaintance 1 formed four ears ago, is, I firmly beliove, a gentleman ot nexceptionable moral charactes, and the putation I have ot him from those who have nown him fora much longer period, fally istifies the high esteem in which he is held me. His father I also know to be a genâ€" epman of high moral and social standing. is no doubt that one of his objects was obtain, if possible, some information whith ight be useful to his © pupils," but in this pect, too, he was toiled, for all his efforts to into the proceedings were unavailing. The following are the ccrtificates alluded to : [ Look on This Picture ! hn, for robbing a man by the name of G. in t-o town of L. I also know his tather and ster who have both been under atrest. . This an was atrested twice for crimes in the nited States. He is koown as a drill master r the Fenians ‘in G. ‘There is no doubt he & desperate character. ot to notice the matter. Since, however, the {ontreal papers of this morning had a brief tatemient of the affair, the publication of the hole facts of the case will, so far from doing arm, }bev that the authoritics at Ottawa are ot soieasily humbugged as some speculaâ€" ve gentlemen with " high moral chatacters" sy imagine. â€"â€"â€"â€"May 5, 1863. s ‘The facts above mentioned were known to ie Citizen and ourselves on Wednesday evenâ€" ig, when our hero got his dismissal from the ussell House, but it was deemed advisable And on That !! 7 TME DETECTIVE oPFICER‘s CBRTiFICAT®. I know â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€". I also knew his two others, W. and F., who are now in the States ison, one for fifteen and the other for eighteen â€"â€"â€" May 5, 1868 THE CLERGYMAN‘® CERTIfICATE coURrT oOF CHANCERY. Pastor of â€" Chureb Hon. Mr. BENSON said that after hearing the arguments which had been advanced, he felt very much inclined to meet the views of those who wish the matter deferred until a future period. He was in favor of the prinâ€" ciple of the motion, but under the circumâ€" stances would rather see it deferred. They should wait until they saw what changes were required in the Act, and then they could all be made at the same time. Hon. Mr. HOLMES said the motion was contrary to Iis views. He found it stated in the 24th section of the Umion Act, that "the Governorâ€"General shall, from time to time, in the Queen‘s name, summon | qualified persons to the Senate, and subject to the provisions of this Act. Every person so sumâ€" moned shall become and be a member of the Senate and a Senaior." Theretore this House being chosen by the representative of the Queen, did not come under the same rule as the House of Commons, or corporations who had @ right to choose their own chairman. He hoped the resolution would be withirawn as he should be sorry to see it put to a vote. He had served in the Legislative Council for as long ..senod as any gentleman present, gad he had always endeavored to support the powers that be so‘ lot:‘nu they were right. .. _ pATe ow :CE HHKC: sw _ Hon. Mr. BOTSFORD said this was a | subject of deep interest, and one upon which | every .member of the Senate shouid express an opinian, but this could not now be had in the «bsence of so miny members of the House ; theretore the measure should not be pressed to a divisiqgn. It seemed to him that there | was nothing constitutionally wrong in the Senate seeking to have a change made in the Constitucion, by which we will be abie to secure the most competent member of this Senate, hlvinf the best knowledge of the usages of Purliament, to preside over our | delhiberations. In looking at the nt mode , of appointment, xe must conaiJer, that it is not the Queen thet makes the appointment, ' and strictly epeaking it is not evan the memâ€" bers of the Government, because the Governâ€" | ment oniy existe by hbaving a majority of the representatives of the people to support Hon. Mr. ARMAND (in French) was inauâ€" dible, but was understood to say that this resolution was illâ€"advised and uncalledâ€"for at this time, when we should give the present system a lair trial, particularly as it 1s possiâ€" bie that the office of Speaker may be united with that of some other Department of the Government soon. § Hon. Mr. ALLAN also expressed a hope that the motion would not be pressed to a division. _ He agreed with the principle of the motion, bul‘ge thought the House should not assent to it at the present time. . He wished it to be distinetly understood that we were discussing this question without any relerence to the gentleman who presides over. the Senate. .This House should have the right to elect its Speaker, and by meserting this now, we cannot be charyed with show~ ing any want of stability, or that we Rhad not properly made up our minds before, because when tne Act of last Session was before us we were obliged to accept it as a whole. He thought at some future day shis change ahoutl be made, and then those who had served in the House for alength of time would have a right to look forward to fill that position, but at the present time it would be unwise after so short an experience of the working of the Constituation to ask for changes to be made. Hon. Mr. FERRIER quite agreed with what had beeu said ‘by his hon. friend (Mr. Macpherson). He thought that if the Speaker was appointed a member of the Government there was a danger of his exercising too much control over this House. It would show x want of stability and sober thought to puss this motion, because there ought to be some very good and sufficient reasons before the Senate should recommenad any change in the Constitution. There was no doubt but this Union Act, like everything else, was defecâ€" tive, but they should try for the next five years to work it out in the best possible manner. . He thought ths discussion would have a good effect, but he trusted that no alterations wou‘d take place in the old Conâ€" stitution, ‘until they had hbadl three or four years experience with it. Hoo. Mr. MACPHERSON said the resolu tion was premature, &nd the fac of its coming so soon after we have assembled under our new Constitution was as strong an argument as could be advanced against it. He agreed with the hom, mover who said that if the resolutions of the Quebec Conference had not been considered in the light of a treaty, there probably would be w very strong vote for amending the resolution providing for the Speaker of this House being appointed by the Government. . He thought that whenâ€"the Legislative Council ot Canada were deliberatâ€" ‘ing upon this subject that they believed the system would be continued of the Speaker‘s occupying the position of a Minister of the Crown, without a Department, which might be desirable under the new system where there would not be a necessity for as many Departments as under the old one. If the Speaker was only to be the presiding officer of the Senate it was very difficult to see why he should have been appointed, and why this body should not have the privilege of electing their own presiding officer, as almost every other deliberative body in the country does. The Hon, Minister of Agriculture had alluded to municipalities that did not elect their preâ€" siding otficers, He (Mr. Macpherson) did not think those cuses were in point. The Viceâ€"President of the United States was elected as Viceâ€"President, and was ex»»fficio President of the Senate, but it his office beâ€" comes vacant, the Senate elect their own presiding officer. He (Mr. Macpherson) thought the discussion would do good, but he hoped the hon. mover would not press his motion m"- l;liviuion, as the discussion upon it was all that was required at present. lreonthought it lmpmlibll:qk)r the P;nsent system to continue, unless there was some stronger reason given‘in the future why the presiding officer of this Honse should be ap pointed by the Crown ; and when they asked to be allowed to elett their own Speuker, he wus quite certain the Britisn g::lilmenl would not refuse to %:‘nnt their request, but he thought they should not so soon ask themn to amend the Constitutional Act, after its being passed ‘vith zo much deliberation. Hon. M:. CHAPAIS (in Freach) wished to uppose the motion, with all his torce and energy, as premature and uncalled for at the present time, without even giving the present urruuzement time to develope itself, Surely hon,. members were suffering no grievous wrong at this time, that we must at the end ot the first Session under the new Union Act, raise such aâ€"disguasion with these thin benches. Even under the elective system the Government had the nominating power and the «ystem worked well. Ours was as nearly as cireumstances would permit a transcript of the Britsh Constitution, so that this House might be styled the House of Lords of Canada,. â€" He could not agree with the remarks of the bon. member (Mr. Sanâ€" burn) that all deliberative bodies, from the highest to the lowest, claimed and exercised the‘ right of selecting their own Speaker. We see that the Mayors of Montreal and other lurge cities wre not selected by the members of their councils, but by another power, so that the purity of reasoning dues not hold good in municipal aftairs. He conâ€" sidered it much betterto give our new conâ€" stitution a fair trial, nmfnoc be seeking to alter one of its leading features before it was one year in existence,. It would be more creditable to us as a people in the eyes of the Briush nation, and much rater for our own monarchical form of Government, (which turm we all revere and have aflirmed as the best, time and again, in this House and elseâ€" where). Besides it was possible in the course of events, that the oftice of Speaker might at some future day be unilarmzh some uther department under the Governâ€" ment, and thus carry out the ideas of economy tor which this House contends on all occasions. THE CANADIAN â€"PARUAMENT! Iat PARLIAMENT. THE SENATE (Continued.) Wenxespay, May 6, 1868. tss SESSION » | &1\ ‘ Hoo, Mr. LETELLIER oz ST. JUSTâ€"I had a bad example. i Hon. Mr. MITCHELL did not know what hi« lion, triend meant by a bad example; he i ha \ not heard a word from him (Mr. Mitâ€" eleil), as he had been wouderfully reticent up n the matter, but it was not because he did not feel any interest in the question. Te ! House must not conceive, that because the | Government have not thought it necessary | to 50 11to the matter at any length in answer to do so. Whatever our individual opinion may be in respect to having the Speaker apâ€" pointed by the House or Government, every one appeared to admit that it would be preâ€" mature to get up an agitation to change the Constitution before we have had time to test it. He did not think it would be proâ€" per for a deliberative body like this to add their weight and influence to the movement going on in Nova Scotia, by deciding here, betre the olose of this Session of Parliament, that we are dirsatisfied with the’IPtesent..uw of things, and want a change. Therefore, he thought it would be exceedingly imprudent for this House to adopt this motion at the present time, and he hoped that the hon. mover would take the suggestions that had been made by so many members of the House and withdraw the motion. It had Leen said that if the Speaker ot. the House was a member of the Government, it would give the Government an undue. influence in the Senate. He did not think so, for it had frequently been the custom for the chairman to take part in the debate, and‘ the Lord Chancel‘or of England even introduces Bills into the House of Lords. This gave‘ the Speaker an influence in the House, but not in any way to affect his decision upon any aubject. . He thought that. it might be more economical for the Speaker to be a member of t‘ie Government. His hon. friend (Mr. McCully) was mistaken when he said tnese were all Crown appointments ; the Legislative Council of Nowmnlwick ‘wl the right to elect their President, and they exercised that right. We obtained that‘privilege, not by an appeal to the Imperial Parliament, but turough an address, and the power was ac ceded to us by a despatch from the Colonial Offlice, but in this case the change could be made only by the Imperial f’:rlinment amending our Act of Union, which it is not deirable to change so soon after its coming into operation. Ion. Mr. LOCKE supported the resoluâ€" tion, and would oppose its withdrawal. The ar;ument in favor of Nova Scotia‘s disconâ€" tent with the actual state of things was stcngthened by the introduction of such a re=.lution as this one. He had no fault to find with the present Speaker, who always treated him with the most gentlemanly uri.nity, and the politeness which was charâ€" actcristic of his countrymen ; but it was with the exercise of this nominating power that he was dissatisfied, and he thought this House should assert its own dignity and preâ€" rog «tives, and take the election of its own Speaker in their own hands. _Mon,. Mr. MITCHELL regretted that the ho. mover had introduced this moson, and hai followed it up by the speech which he mi le. L to the charges bmiht gainst them in the Appointment of the pr:rer, e‘ther in the mausner . of the selection, or in the selection itself, that they are not able to juatify their action to the House and country, but as the hon. mover had agreed to withdraw the reâ€" solution for the present, he would defer his reply to a future period, when he would be prepared to defend the action of the Governâ€" ment in this matter, Mon.Mr, LETELLIER oz ST.JUST would withdraw his resolution on the ussurance givn by the hon. members of the Governâ€" ment and of this House, that on some future occusion when there would be a larger atâ€" tendance of the members in their seats, and more time, the dircussion could be taken up Hon, Mr. WARK said this was not the firt time the members of the House had had an ?»pportum:'y of expressing their views upon this subject, for there was scarcely a inember arcund these benches but bad an opportunity, either when this matter was discussed in the mother courtry, or when it was before the respective branches of the Colonial Legisâ€" latures, of expressing their views in regard to this Constitution, had they felt: disposed Hon. Nir. FERRIER thought the Speaker of the Senate should be a member of the Administration, and| in that way we would save the, salary of gne of the heads of Deâ€" partments; As they were now discussing this matter, he was/prepared to express his opinion before the House and country. He thought it was unfortunate that the Governorâ€" General should hayt selected a member of a Local Legislature to preside over the debates and proceedings of this House, whicih was one of the most dignified bodies in this Ds minion. â€" It requires a gentleman of large experience to preside over this Senate, and it could hardly be expected that a gentieman coming ‘From nb)cnr[fgialalure would be as familhiar with the order of this branch of the Legislature as those who for a long period have held seats in this House. He thought a change should be made in the mode of appointing their Speaker, but it was exceedmgry undesitable that this Dominion should seek for a change in their Corstituâ€" tion so soon after its organization. The House, therefore, should well consider before approaching the Throne with an application founded upon this resolution. He was not surprised that his hon. friend had made this motion, nor did he much regret it, for many reasous, but still unless it was carried by a very I‘T majority he could hardly e?ect to found an address upon it that would be expected to prevail at any very early day elsewhere. 6 _ Hon. Mr. McCULLY said he had taken an active part in framing this Constitutiop, and he was not now afraid of discussing the _merits of this particular point. When this Constitution was framed, he was one of those who advocated the prineiple that the Speaker ot the Senate should be appointed by the Government of the day, and he had not since changed _ his _ mind â€"mupon the subject. He believed then, and he believed still, that this mode of appointment was more in un formity with the principles of that body to which we are to some extent assimilated, than it would be to have the Speaker elected by this House. _ He had listened with a great deal of attention to the remarks of Iis hou. triend, (Mr. Sanborn), but they had farled to convince him that the analogy he mentioned should apply to this House. He was not aware of any instance of a constitutional legisâ€" lative‘ body which was appointed by Her Majesty, ‘or Her Majesty‘s representative, having conterred upon them the power to elect their own S ntu-r. Some hon. gentleâ€" men. have slat«rnmt this Houâ€"e, being apâ€" poiated by the Queen, the analogy between this Senate and the House of Lords did not hold good, but that like the House ot Comâ€" mons we should elect our Speaker, _ He con tended that this body, not having been elected by the people, the Speaker, like the Lord Chancelior, should be a nominee of the Crown. He was disappointed in the way in which the Government have exercised ~ that . power, W en the Union Act was framed it was exâ€" pected that the Speaker of this House should hold the same relation to the House that the Load Chancellor does in the House of Lords in England, that is, he should be a member ul the Administration, and should go out with the retiring Administration, and come in with the new. â€" It is said that the Speaker now beâ€" inz an officer of the Government, the incomâ€" ing Government woufd have the power to reâ€" move him. _ That may be done, ‘but he not being an officer of th¢ Cabimet it would nut be desirable for them tofexercise that power, but it he was a member of the Cabinet he would be obliged to retire. 14 them. â€" Therefore if we come to analyze the appointment, it is the people; thronch their representatives, who make‘ it, and it is ubjectionable from that point of view. HMe took it for grauted that it was quite right for this Senate by petition to Lring the matter bet reâ€" the> Imperial Parliament, and he would suggest to the hon. mover that the selection of a presiding officer should not take place at the commencement of each Parliaâ€" ment, but: that his appointment should be for a certain period, because it might be inconâ€" venient for this Senate at every dissolution of Parliament, to be called upon to clect their presiding officer. _ 1HBH Ofj tA WA IMiS, MAY 8. R thought the Speaker l be a member of the in that way we would ne of the heads of Deâ€" Hon. M+. RYAN said the eubject of im migration was one which bad always ocâ€" cupied a great deal of attention, not alone of the Legislature but of the country geneâ€" rally, and as this question was subject to new regulations, we should know how imâ€" migration to this country is affected by those regulations, and by the new system under which the Government of the conntry is administered. _ As he wished the House to obtain the fullest information in regard to imnugration, and how it is to be fostered in this country, he would add to the resolution just read : ©"Also copies of any corresponâ€" dence which has taken place between the Hon, Mr. RYAN moved, seconded by Mr. Ross, that an humble aidress be presented to His Exéellency . the Governorâ€"General, praying that His Excellency will be pleased to cause to be laid before this House,, copies of all correspondence which has taken place from the 1st of January . last, to the present date, between the Hon. the Minister of Agriâ€" culture and the Emigrant Agents ttHlmtfton, Toronto, Kingston, Ottawa, Montreal, Sherâ€" brooke, Quebec, St.John, N. R., Halitax, aua any portor ports in Europe, having reâ€" lerence to the probable extent and character ot the immigrition of 1868, as well as to the nrrangemem:';‘ue and means provided or to be provided in aid and encouragement of such immigration. lon. Mr. TESSIER regretted that the reâ€" quired information could: not be furnished until alter this Session, as the public are anxious to hear what progress has been made with this work. Hon. Mr., CHAPAIS said the report reâ€" quired was not completed, though considerâ€" able progress had been made with it. The engineer in charge, from & professional sense of duty to the public service, and to his own reputation; wu{:ed time to verify the soundâ€" ings which had been madelast fall. Stll it i3 possible new soundings might discover some changes after the winter season. Hence the hon. mover would see that it was imposâ€" sible under the cireumstances to bring down the report asked for just now, but he assured the H puse no time would be lost, as they felt its importance for the shipping of the counâ€" trv. Hon. Mr. TESSIER moved, seconded by Hon. Mr. Bourinot, that an humble address be presented to His Exceilency the Governorâ€" Genéral, praying that His Excellency will be pleased to cause to be luid ‘before this House copies of the reports made by John Page, Esq., Engineer ot the Public Works Departâ€" ment, on the subject of the deepening of Lake St. Peter, in virtue of an ord«r in Council, made about the 1st of J=ly, 1862 ? Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL said his hon. friend would remember that he (Mr. Campbel!) had said the other day that though reports had been made the Government had received no final report. _ _ A message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill intituled: "An Act to contirm the amalgamction of the Commerâ€" cial Bank of Canada, and the Merchants‘ Bavk, and to amend and consolidate the Acts of incorporation of the said Banks," read a first time and ordered for ‘Friday next. E 4 The report was then withdrawn and reâ€" ferred to the Joint Committee for further consideration, MHon. Mr. BOTSFORD said he had sugâ€" gested to the chairman of the Committee that it was desirable that the Joint Committee should meet and make a joint report in reâ€" gard to this maiter, and submit it for the apâ€" proval of the Senate and House of Comâ€" mons. Hon. Mr., CAMPBELL said he quite agreed with the members of the Committee that the services of Mr. Todd were of the most valua ble character, and it was desirable that some additional consideration should be given him for information which he has given to the members of the Legislature, and for .the adâ€" ditional duties which have been:imposed upon him. _ He would suggest that. the matâ€" ter lhad beter be referred back again to the Cominittee, and let them determine upon a salary to be adopted conjointly by both Houses of Parliament. Hon,. Mr. ALLAN, after makiog a few reâ€" marks, said heâ€"had no objection to withdrawâ€" ing the report, so that the suggestion of the Postmasterâ€"General could be carried out. _ Hon, Mr. McCULLY could not understand why this Joint Committee should make a ‘eeparate report in which the action of the other House was not reférred to at a‘l. Now was the time when this Joint Committee of the Library have taken this subject up, that we should understand distinectly what our riglits and relations to the library are. If the library was a joint library for the House of Commons and Senate, he could not underâ€" sturd how this House could give up any portion of its privileges of paying, or of assisting in the payment of the Librarian. According to : the report Mr. Todd was Librarian for the House of Commons, and we to get his services must pay him $400 as he is not our officer. He did nut believe that was & right principle. He had no objection to an increase in Mr. Todd‘s salary, for he was a man well versed in constitutional history, and had published a work which was agreat credit to himself as well as to Canada,. _ He was a gentleman of high standâ€" ing, and should be paid for nis services, but at the same time he (Mr. McCully) was not prepur?l to admit that this House shouid . not have a right to the patronage and the payiment of half that gentleman‘s salary, and he should be equally at the command o meimbers of the Senate as well as the House of Commons. He had been chairman of a Juint Committee appointed by the Legislature of Nova Scotia, and that committee "iad preâ€" E.sred & joint report at each Session, the ibrarian there being appointed by the Govâ€" ernmentâ€"was Librarian for both Houses, and he was paid out of the revenues of the country accondirg to the recommendation ot that committee. It would be best io havg this maiter settled upon a proper foundation, in order to. know whether the members of this Senate have a right to go into the library and ask the services cf the LibVrarian the same as members of the other branch of the Legislature, whose officer this report ideâ€" clares him to be. Hon, Mr. ALLAN said, yes; and went on to defend the propriety and j?stice of the additronal aliowances to the présent hibrary stafl. Hon. Mr. KENNY said it was the intention of the Government to fill up that vacancy at as early a date as possible. SECOND REPORT OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE ox Te L1BRaARY. Hon, Mr, ALLAN then moved the alop tion of the second Report of the Joint Library Committee,. â€" He complained of the various proposals made for managing the Parliaâ€" mentary Library by the Librarian and his Assistants,» who would be officers of this branch of the Legislature, as wetl as of the Conmmons House. Hon,. Mr. STEEVESasked it the proposed increase of $400 yearly to ‘Mr. 'Foal-l as Librarian, and of $300 to his Assistant Mr. i1ijore, and of $150 to Mr. Laperriere yearly, was to be added over and above the present salaries ? t and proceeded. with until: the sense of the House could be taken. He was determined to do so, as hefelt strongly on the subject, and would do all in his power to have the evil redresased. +He was not afraid of discusâ€" sion on this of any other subject,. On the contrary he courted it. HMe could not avoid saying before he sat down that he was conâ€" vinced that threeâ€"curths of the‘ members of this House were dissatisfied with the appointâ€" ment, and the way it was made, from the discussion we had before on this subject, but as he would bring up the matter again, he would say no imore at present, but begged to withd raw the resolution. The resolution was then withdrawn. Mon, Mr. LOCKE euquired whether the Government have taken any action in filling the vacancy in the Senate caused by the death of the late Hong Mr. Weir,.and, â€"if not, is it their intention to fill up saud vacancy before the close of this Session ? The motion was then carried. Aiter routine, The House then ivljpurned INM1GRATIONâ€"ADDRES 8 Tavrsvay, May 7, 1868 s Tucrspar, May 7, 1868. The SPEAKER tock the chair at three v‘clock. Hon,. Mr, MACPHERSON said that was quite true, but those lands were of inferior quality, being in a rocky part of the country where the land was not suitable for agriculâ€" tural purposes. iThe immigrant would not reside upon such land when he could get 150 acres uf prairie land in the United States free. There was nothing attractive in the land given to the eettler in Canada, and so soon as the road was consfructed his ‘wages ceased, and be left for the: United States. That is not the policy which should be pursued by the Government; they should open up roads through the best lands of the country to induce iminigrants to settie on them. _ Some years ago he (Mr. Macpherson) was on the continent of Europe, and he took some paiss to look into the manner in which emigration was conducted there. He found at all the leading ports both consuls and shipping agents very busy in inducing men to emiquu.- to the United States, Numerous plagards were posted up, offering free lands in the most attractive part of the United States to those who would emigrate, and the consuls were Acting as emigration AEenu, as all shouldâ€"do. Is was a great mistake made by this country in not having qualified eniâ€" gration agents in Europe; if we had sent such agents there as were sent by the United States, the Minister of Immmgration would not have had to make the mortifying stateâ€" ment which he has had to make toâ€"Jlay. Thetide ot immigration is now setting strongly towards the Western States, ‘and it would be very difficult to change it. He agreed with the Minister of Agriculture, that they ought not to contribute largely, or at ali, to pay the passage of people out o1 the country, for it would he tar better to pay their passage into the country on condition of their remaining here. The Dominion Government had very little power to attract immigrants into the country since the management ot the public land has passed into the hands of the Local Governments. _ All they can do now is to coâ€" operate with the Local Governments in this matter, and this they should do. He ex pressed his regret that the Minister of Agriâ€" culture had not seen fit to put kimself into communication with those Governments and induce them to offer attractions to iminigrants. If he uad done so those Local Legislatures might have punid more liberal rgeasures which would hav® brought immigrants into the country. We should do all we can to show that there is a real value in our wooded landsâ€"that we me a salubrious climateâ€" and that for the efnigrant after the lapse of a reasonable time, it is a inore desirable country than that which at first ‘sight ap pears more attractive. If these advantages wete put before the emigrants who arrive in this country, and they were informed that our â€"taxation was so much lighter than the taxation in the United States, it might induce a great many of them to settle in this country. o ho . © Upon the question of the reception of the petition of whomas Rigney, which had been under discussion previously, _ â€" _ ; Hon. Sir G. E. CARTIER stated the views of the Government upon the subject oll the manner in which such petitions praying for money grauts should be dealt with. If any hon. member considered that the Governm« nt were not taking sufficiently prompt action, he could move an aAddress for a copy of the petiâ€" tion, and leave the administration open to the true that their efforts to induce immigration had failed, but he thought those efforts were mot well directed as they consisted mainly of an establishment at Quebec, and most of the immigrants who arrived there went on to the.United States. In his opinion, the money spent upon that and similar esâ€" tablishments, and for paying the passage of immmigrants, was not wisely «pent. Ins:ead of devoting this money to that purpose, they should have given those immigrarts lanis to settle upon, and then we would have had a large immigration which would have awdded dargely to the population of the counâ€" try, While we set a high price upon our lands, and were making no efforts in Europe to get iminigrants to come to our slores, the United States by national agents, and agents sent out by private enterprise, were making prodigious efforts for this purpose, and they were successful. Hon. Mr. CHAPAIS soid that free lands were given to the settler, a«d work on the roads in Canada. } Hon. Mr. CHAPAISâ€"The Government would gre=t the required correspondente most willingiy, as the subject was one in ‘ which the whole country takesa deep interest. The Government wished to encourage a good class of immigranis to this country, and also to the Maritimne Provinces. â€"But the abuse by agents a the ports of Earope of the name of the Canadian Government was much to be deploredâ€"poor emigrants would_land at the port of Quebec with letters on them<from agents telling them that the Government would send thein on to their destination free of expense, thus deceiving these poor people, and in 12any instances inflicting great hardships on them. This evil should be guarded against in future as much as posâ€" sible. The number of emigrants landing on our shores last season was greater by 7,000 than the previous years. But as the great bulk of them only passed through the counâ€" try to join their friends in the west, this country derived little or no benefit from them, Wages were good in ‘Canada, and all the necessaries of liie much cheaper than in the. United States; but there the public works always going on induced the flool of European immigration to run to that counâ€" try. We here should use all our energies aud exertions to altract foreign immigration and to prevent the emigration of les enfan(s du sol, who are daily leaving this country in crowds to fins e:raployment elsewhere. The Local Governments should bestir themâ€" selves also, and see to encourage the estab lishment of manufactures and the opening and dévelopment ot the industrial resources of this great country. Grants ofsland along the line of the proposed Intercolunial railâ€" road will tendi much to attract population when these works commence this season,. This Government will do all in its power to forward the object‘ of immigration and setâ€" tlement of our vast expanse of country, but much more onerous obligations rest with the Local Governments, who are the proper pirâ€" ties to carry out the proposed facilities fer settling the public domaine of this Canaia, Hon. Mr. hACPBERS_OS said it was very . Government of the Dominion and â€"any of the Local Governments upon the same subject." He had mentioned the other day that the great attraction to induce immi= grants to settle in the country, was that of having land to give them. Thke Domirion Government having no Jand, can make them no grants of land, that being in the posses sion of the L_cal Governments, Therefore it was important for us to know what steps the Dominion Government have taken in this matter, and to know whether the Local Govâ€" ernments are willing to coâ€"operate with thein in order to settle the country, He would suggest that as soon as the arrangements are completed for building the Intersolonial Railwayâ€"and we all presume that it will be built very shortlyâ€"inducements should be held out to immizrants to induce them to scttle along that line. Theve is very good land along that line of railway, which will be at the disposal o the Local Governments, aad they should make & provision that those who work for.a certain term to the satisfacâ€" tion of their employers, should be allowed to settle upon those lands upon very easy terms, in order to encouraze immigration to the country, His object in making this motion was to learn whether any arrangements had been made with the‘Local Governments in regard to inducements being held out to proâ€" mote immigration, and also to induce thosewho come from Europe, to remaid and settle in Caneda, instead of passing through to the U. States. â€" A great deal of the money granted in past years for the encouragement of immiâ€" gration, Fad been unpréfitably Jaid out in Quebec and other ports, instead: of being distributed in such a way as would induce immigrants to settle in the country. â€" % fHOUSE OF COMMONs®. PETITIONS FOR MONET GRAXTS (To be continued.) The House then went into Committee, Mr. MORRIS in the chair, upon the Bill, an Act respecting the, Depaitment of Justice (from Senate,) which was reported without amendâ€" _ ment, and passed through the firâ€"t stage. i FORTIFICATION®. * ‘ Mr. McKENZIE resumed the adjourned d»bate upon the proposed motion of Sir G. E. Cartier, that Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair tor the House to go into Committee of Whole to consider certain resolations to proâ€" vide a sum rot exceedinz £1,100,000 storâ€" ling to defray the expense of constructâ€" ing works of fortification for the defence of Montreal and other cities, stating that he proposed s@pproaching . the gubject in no sectional manner, and repudjating the assumption that his objections to the measure were taken only in the economic interests of Ontario, He regretted that the subject should be brought down so late in the Session, and that opportunity had not been given for-u‘ fuller discussion upon so importaut a question ‘ as was involved in the a«samption of so heavy a responsibility. He feared that this was done designedly, and with the object of passing the resolutions with as little discussion as possible. It hadt been said that the measure was rendered obligatory by theâ€"demands of the British Govâ€" erament, but he denied the righteither of that Government or its Legislature to dictate to our own. Referring to the reasons given by the Minister for withholding the details oli their scheme, h# denied that this course was warranted by homs precedent, and went on to argue that the reserved power of the Imperial | Government with regard to the declaration of war by which tha colonies wou!fiecome inâ€" voluntarily involved, carried with it the obliâ€" . gation to provide for colonial defence, reading â€" at great length from the report of a royal comâ€" mission in support of his view, which was farther streugthened by consid=ation of the national inter=st in maintaining a profitable colonial trade, to which it was stated that the Australian group alone contributed an amount ot £15,000,000 of exports and £13,000,000 of imports yearly. He was not inclined, bowâ€" ever, to seek upon such grounds eny undue assistance from the purss of the British tax payers, but thought that theâ€"relative propor. tions of defence expenses to be borne by the Em pire, and the colonies, should be d«cidea by an authorititive commission. He ridiculed the analogy drawn by the hon. Minist»r from the Austroâ€"Italian Quadrilateral, the augles of which could find no counterpart in the rcattered and straggling fortificktions proposed. We had now instituted in C:?d‘ the most complete militia organizition of any portion of the British Empire, which bad, however, as yet produced results mainly noticeable on paper. Reverting to the question of fortifications, he contended that the commercial ports of the west were quite indefensible. Arny existing English detences were mainly concentrated round the great naval arscnals,and of the points proposed to be defended here, Kingston was the only one which bore any resemblance, however faint, to the position of Portmouth, Plymouth, or Dartmouth, and he maintained that ‘it was contrary to allâ€" constitutional usage to invite, on such slendei information, so large m vote to be cxpended on details which were kept back from the House,. The result would be that the rorks, which would necessarily be constructed under Imperial enâ€" gineer specification and zupervision, would have to be carried to their completion accordâ€" ing to Imperial plan, let the cost be what it might, and would occasion an unforeseen drain upon the Treasury for many years, The defences proposed for Toronto and Hamilton would be quite valucless to resist invasion, or to protect the coasts of Lake Kuron, and the whole of the western country, which would be still liable to foreign occupation. The defence of Egghnd, it had been now agreed, must be undcrtaken at sea, and it had been found that all the heaviest guns that could be placed would be insufficient to preâ€" vent an enemy‘s iro:.clad figet running up to the very heart of the dockyards. We could trust to no naval defence ¢f our lakes, from the fact of the canals rugning partly on American ground, and the only practical course ever yet suggested, for the object, was to render the Ottawa river smavigable and esâ€" tablish a naval depot on e Nipissing. He did notapprehend any dangér ot an American war, but appreciated the n ty of keeping up a good militia force, iwith thoroughbly trained officers, commissio®ed and nonâ€"comâ€" missioned, but while he yielded to no one in attachment to the,, Crown, could not consent to so _ reckless â€" an . expendiâ€" ture â€"of public‘ money for an object which he believed to be perfectly useless, We were procesding with these measures under pressure of the Imperial authorities, which had originated*in the time of the civil war, when Awwerica controlled large masses of« armed men, and entertained feelings M‘x to Great Britain. Both the American arm An Act respecting the removal of persons in custogy charged with treason or felony in certain ceses. * An Act to amend ‘the Act of the lats Proâ€" vince of Canada, 25 Vic., cap. 72, by declaring the intention of the same, and confirming conveyance made by the Trust and Luan Comâ€" pany thereunder. * Mr. McKENZIE entirely dissented, menâ€" tioning the case of one gentleman against whom it was charged that he claimed citizenâ€" shin of two nationalities, a point still unâ€" de cided. ap After some cemarks from Mr. YOUNG, The Bill was tread a third time and passed, as also were the Bills. . Hon, C. DUNKIN referred to cases of garâ€" tlemen who had held and were bolding 1mâ€" portant oftices who had never heen fermally naturalized, and suggested that a clause swould be inserted protecting such persons from any future objection as aliens. An Act respecting larofny and other similar offences. Upon the motion for the third reading resâ€" pecting Alicns and Naturalization (from Senate), & An Act respecting offences relating to the coin. / bl Sir J, A. MACDONALD,reai a third time and passed , * An Act for the better security of the Crown and Government. Mr. FORTIN presept «d the fourth report of the Committee on Fisherics, recommen ding the continuasce of the inspection of In‘ani Fisheries, as necessary to their protection, GOVERNMEXT miLL3. . > The following Billwwers, on the motion of Sir J, A. MACDONALD,reai a third time and An Act respecting in«licious injuries to proâ€" perty. *4 * McARANAIL, Hon. Mr. HOLEPON, and Ar. MORRIS, the petition wa‘s received. BAGOT SELECT ComMITTEE. Mcss~s. Mills, Masson (Terrebonne), Masson (Soulanges),, Merritt, and Wood |(chairman) were then sworn at the table t@ serve upon the Select Committee for trial of Bagot clecâ€" tion‘ petition. (Mr. Gendron, sitting memâ€" Sir J. A. MACDON A drawal ot the motion for said that after the petiti EFnglish and French, it again toâ€"morrow. An Act respecting torgery. An Act respecting cffâ€"nces against the person,. After some farther McKENZIE, Hon. M Hon. Mr. HOLTON pointed out that this was a preliminary step towards impeachiment, and siuggested that the point at issue was of sufficient importancs to necessitate the printâ€" ing of the petition prior to its being received. Hon. C. DUNKIN tnougnt‘ that such petiâ€" tions shou!d be accompanied by bonds for sufficiept security as in the case of election tions shou!d : be sufficient security petitions. _ Mr. WRIGHT hoped that the House would not refuse to receive the petition. which was the prayer for redress of numerous and respectâ€" able subscribers, ind which !.s proposed to follow up by moving for a Commitice of censure of the House, if the?? course was in error HOLTON, GRAY and DUNKIN, The SPEAKER read his decision declaring that mpon the precedent of th» English House of Commons, by which the fouse was in all undâ€"fined cases to b» guided, al! petitions affecting the public treasury must be held to be inadmissible, " f The motion for the re was then allowed to dro Upon the question for the reception of the petition present d by Mr, A. WRIGHT against Judge Lafontiins, â€" * 4 An Act respecting riots aend riotous assemâ€" +1? course was in .orror After some further dis DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MACDONALD JUDGK LAFONTAINE FISHERIES or â€" discussion . by Mr Mr. HOLTON, and Mr LD urged the withâ€" reception toâ€"day, and on had beenâ€"printed in might be Frought on it ussion Hon. Messre ion of the petition should seem that by Mr Eomm ONPRmm L 4 should b« driven back, the "P;;fl ® tions would form rollying ”.’1.'" progress ot invading forces " ons opectit rested. Roferring to the M" between England and Canad* .ufl 8 that the wealtn per head of “"u"‘ much greater than with 98 but had 4 y* was quite as ‘dear to us, 400 0 _ uq js pC" an interest in detending it as thes argawent had been FepMI®mD 0 by the comparatively little formids®i® "\,; vian defences. The mcmber for L190 ,,., assumed that hostile sorce ©0U!4 "ridrm where alopg our frontier, bat it aont! ar membecred that they must b# ":M Rotillas which it would take +8 §/3,, po! and of which «mple uu-fi""“,,;.- to enable ns o mett Sore se a thie ht orce equal to m_.m. ",.: Hon. Col. GRAY, referring to the !9"" of the last speaker that the I-F“!“‘f: ment would refuse the gumantes P®®"" ,, that, on th\c terms of the "":’ burthen would, in thet case, fail of Lisi on the country, and showed that * _ for Wel‘ington had, by such t9â€"999% meut cut the ground from under *"d' Replying to Mr. McKenzic h‘ us the encountr of the JeA a» between . . the _ Spanish “"‘:t 4 and the batterigs of Callso, in '“I;‘ superior metal and precision of "_w" Arorees ied bere repulsed w Brhe, _ Dr. PARKER supported the requit#®" .. Cctailed information, without which bt *** not be pmp‘red»lovouthw‘ and disputed the authority of Col. 44 ‘:u ETT “"l"w EBRD PEBEOITRE T CCICC Sir J. A, MACDONALD reminded tht member that the Colonel wat / actually Inspectorâ€"General of Forificatio® ‘_ England. _ cmpairaine o\ 42008 (E00, . t Dr. PARKER continued at great l8 ! oppose the scheme upon every gro48 «h urged ngdutit,ugnln(“b“‘" y would be insufficient to render it 9 than incffective. 3 * o old Nr. MA4SON~(Terrebonne) refam= recent motion of his own for corres affectling therubject last touched upon i previous speaker, which, while contsi wssurance of Mr. Cardwell that the force of England would be available in 0® fence, was supplemented by later nieuts of the same Right hou. gentlems His Grace ol Buckingham, and of Mr. stone, to ‘the effect that the Solonies ® benceforward tely mainly on thems® These doctrines appoared to him perfecti reconcileable, and the sooner the my of the positionâ€"was cleared up the bett. demands now made by the bbme G were in excess of those at first set forward ®i required only the tortification of Montra. had been the suggestion of cur own that the system should be extended® West, and this suggestion bai profeste t busea on Col. Jervois \recommendsb® which, at most, we should contine éamâ€"rd and in which Kingston and Hamilte® «* were comprehendeti. . He asked thatW®® Minister should define the several spp®)* tions for Western localities as clearly® St. John und Montreal, faustcatot foc® them all in one lump sum, a ©ourse opposed to English precedent, and alth#® not prepared to support the amendmew!, express nis bope that the Government® consent to supply this information at future sfage of the measure, in order to the coafidence which M'KP‘:“” adberents, ‘The presumption Government wou‘ld resent any obstrach‘ the measure would b» found to be when that Government should come a that it was rek‘sted only in the intere®® i+ rights of Parliamebt which were W# fringed by the reticsnce of the t «wnd had not nearly so certain a bes#®‘ apprehension of the distrust that "'q from the insult offered the other day «*‘ presentative of Her Majesty. yÂ¥ Mr. CARTWRMGHT continued hy ment in reply to Mr. McKeazic, that America could not be said to w temporizged her army during "the is which had passed through many: pms struggle before it succeeded in proximate efficiency, _ Similarly, hastily crected carthworks had been to create occasionaliy a momentary great works covering Washington ant points of central importance, had bet growth of a long combination of t skill, and had been planned in one of the theofetical engineering schools of thr L He went to assert further that the ngrl ! of Canada in regard to the system 5( hitherto bad occasionsd grave misint England, so far so as to induce the larg drawal of invested capital,and maintaie: the defective training of our milits 4: would be held at home imperatiep 67 mand the protection of entrenchel ary ‘ fall back upon. 1t was impossiblet pu the debates of the Imperial Parliamen becoming aware of an existing desite o part of Great Britain to get rid of On responsibilities upon any bomombl« possible, and it was just now especially sary to bring under »ttention the sacrifices which we were preparedto for the preservation of British and the maintenance ot British naval acy. He desired that the value ot thee vinces to the Crown should be dâ€"sit termiuned, and the extent to which Ba»® was disposed to protect them stated ts beyond.llnhu risk of miwapprehensioc K7 It beihg six o‘clock, the Sposkar chair, ; Intaticiattsatics as h c db & look upon them as a kindred Pu:: rathcr as one that we must guard agaipe rcferred to the assertion by the ol Lambton, that thes: fortificetions Wetd iny, ed to aid the British troops in 1U8tigg a, safcly, while the people will be left ts i fate. Bucli _ insinuations â€" wer d most mischievous character, as tondiy lessen ourâ€"confidence ‘in our position, a our ability to defend our country, H. culed the idea that one shilling tax \.; equal to eight shillings in England, ; hon. member for Lambton took the trow carry out his statements, he would ty the people of the Dominion paid actw teen shillings against fifty paid by the } tax prayer. 4 nc c2ll" 90 She racy so well when flnukilgk.‘-l..,,:,_ move the amendment of which he notice, wiz , that all the words ait 5 . struck ort and the following insert. thereof : * The quertion of q,.* er permanebt works of defens shoul subject of enguiry by a Special c , or Seléct Conmitter; First, as to the for, and utility of, such works, and 4, share of the burdea thereoft 10 be boy Colonial and Imperia} authotities y ly ;.Secondiy, the #FStCM ‘Of defop., necessary, and cost, and tlat pop, enquiry «and report to Pa; ligment expedieut to vote any sum G{Mv“\' fication®, of the nature, extent, utilir, of which this House was uns ""D VRIGIHm ___ ""Ormed. Mr. CARTWRIGHT Agreed with th,,, ber for Lambton that great 4 liberatio, reccssary in considering the task . ; re Although he acquitted that mem bet of 4 4 to abahdon this COUDtry if he hag bos, cially retained‘ to argue that w votly maintain our position, he could not haveg greater justice to his brief, 11. refems similar motion and amebdment Some q years ago, and the hon. MeMber U is down theammenrdm »nt, What the MBag proposed was that the matte ShOGld t u5. out of ‘the hands of respons:1 .. Witi#hth y placed in the bancs of .(“-‘“'\4 would not give & tithe Of the time to i was given by the Minister for Militia, $ nights ago, the member for Lambton to. k, himself to assure us there was no dar 5 war, but taking the expressions of Amer at the time of the Russian war and the }, mutiny, andâ€"at the time of the groat dig. we were compelled to fecl that we coy. Hvals uce e BIETCE n quctsly 4. c 22 206 the f.;,m,:‘_' to the point barely necersary $, th tion of their own interny} "I;oqmlm had yielded to the admitt «4 Comp inutility of eny m0vement upon t which they coulq DEvel exPrd to : the wishes of the Ppeople, ‘Ij.j,,. . made to the struggle Wwhich th ; inferior r«--t::‘ncv:, had beep ko 1 alntain, and "the 9CCupation .. :rriwricl was still taxing ... Uty of Northern military power | 13;, DO.\'ALD’â€"(‘uu_I. Might wls ; occupied.] â€" He id not beliere q , experience of conquered ©ountri,. as to induce them to FuPtgey *ifn ments. He would |not PrOCeed at ,,, length, having ready $U00Red e« th:‘;‘(inuu-r ft&hnu 1o #leep, , [Hon. ‘NMr. JORNXSON, » p.q 66 (renewed laughter)], and Werely conclusion that the most effectiv, ,, be found to be those thrown up in { of emergency, such as baq Served t FAPY «h wall uh ul dnc a s 0 and the American ; dissipated, and while to the point Iu:ely n tion of their own inter had yielded to the ad WAE NC vot â€"nttisitiidrtccns..." utility cb this House was Ininfutnu]‘ CaRrwaRIGHT agreed with 4; r Lambton that @1GRt d libery, ary in considering the tact ; ." while q hos Mity hag " . RCF Â¥as TY fop “‘"i" mnquility 1/ ~d CONÂ¥ictigy , tupor thi, ) EPN to ,, ig R» ferene, L.j ic h the 8 hy eR #p y ipation 14 k',‘f l & the ugw t 0 dn +i t wiso 1. nig élieve that a _ 1 which the m« on violating, that if be cou then in con| ment used ¢ i'h-tu.,. h‘.fi he Lag Yotod Tone, but e dh-;"-un 18 Galt, Mr. Bro fident that, if be the first to °_ Mr. MceK House, Lavi; u'“‘ , Tsl ouse of the to adberence for the secou debate on w casioned the lt had been a supposed w ties to be fo :':th had a onl poil hvoc: Par .uckenlw'- ntroduci he had give, «nd their 1 dstain the could not g portant que plause, and Mr. BEA and one t the mother ith his cou :?Mm for the san bonae had must be we " world divided tion to mak The crudest that of th shoald w thought «of dwelt tifcations points to ninsale, w the long ex Jorgetting equally 1 the war 6 other parts ©anada, he d feeling of t the wanton U8 from the fli:"o." E. would not vd ho se MHon. Mr T“fl' t . TRE Interruyprtic * _ Mr. uâ€"C( Of those in country cou nét willing homes and least b4 1 aad assert witet w04 hy Hon. the rati the Im ksew not Hon. M that the thrown an pon, w the fature be (Mr. se paratiop peculiarly trustial of ing Repu prisent < cvitable « land, wiz, and fl Gore leave diuhlm to world for to e »n,!ml,a a Belic ion I‘n dignity . nâ€"es and welt â€" meat wi tae duty House to views w «ho far muould â€" 4 us that « organizo tification sterling Militia, M held Eugland war with t =d so tas denit md on whic that â€" ca yeerly; a 10 anres had pow £ mghl( even e Hon. the Im; to depa and did «ondutiie dn it was te »m-.- ant propri friend ment. the i ied perial | and the torâ€"ha 1f the the in «uon selves wou‘d de gn(iflb cur ddl toence works what t half a « met. of t d > U 00 an ili with Tire was a shoul »® 1119 Cr an most to tooti 1J a m l did

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