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Pab‘ic Noticeâ€"Neville & Heney. New Diy Goodeâ€"Cunningham & Linduay, Canadaâ€"Address A. B. care of: Mesars, Lake & Co‘, 10 New Square, Lincoln‘s Ins, ChrOttawa Cimes m paye. strong, she must be weak indeed, as she is incapable of offence, alone and unaided, ans that it is the duty of those, who, being. the vast majority of the people of this, country, are sot in lavour otf Republican institutions to defend themâ€"elves from the unserupalou» encroachments of a Republicaniam which they abominate. If military establishments are klie, useless, and exhaustive, it 18 not fur a moment, to be overlooked, that such e« tablishmentewoulbd noe be got rid of by anâ€" nexation to the adjoining Republic. Such a umon â€" would la% us â€"as a State, in | widimon (to taxing us ty the maintenance of fLrudestions and armies as necessaury alter as before annexaâ€" tion, and tor the constructluns of great oggan m-muumm‘râ€"»â€" ments of that aution of which, such cireumstances, Canada would form a part, aiter the total extinetion of her preseni semiâ€"Rativnal individualuy. It is a quesâ€" tion cnly whether or not it is better to bear any illis we hare than to run the rmek ot greater ills. There cannot be a doubt that one day the millenium will come, «hen their wilt beno awhhers nor aBy negséâ€"mnts tor them â€" When thâ€"t day dovs come all the militaury tomâ€"twlemes which oo# costé « much may be dispensed with, but wail the approace of that perrod is made a litvle mur maunilest to us then it 1« the people 0 *Camna is may ue pernnited to beheve that th mun h« e x endead i0 LouBlsatwno= may meâ€"k fmure rulroe ead csoal expgee lnuce sat to hi @ins ibvests ie anAeâ€"p in them alm more lawis giy secure to.us, who reap th beae do of them. & CORReCTIO® â€"â€"A«l: ine laster part of Mr. Dog: «a Speesu io our la«t impression waâ€" errq:amâ€"ly atmbmel w #t Macuasmes® Is is the more aeces=ary to make this Gorree» w w« Mo. MaCKeNt®®E â€"tiuted at the dlose «1 he detare unat he was alogether oppoused o the resvlutions then before the House, * 8sATURDAY, MARCH 19 1870 NEW aADVERTISEMENTS Hon Sir J us a. Maco ®arp introduced the Bupreme Court Bull. He did not modfi-{ 1+ away with the appeal to Kegiani The constivuuâ€"nality of the Aots of the Looal UG.â€"vernments might be tried before" it. rm”dm“aio.uhhu-pm the Kiectoral Representation Mill. On motion to go mmto Commitiee, Mr. Muzss speke iwo or three hbout» erinciâ€"ing the Buil, » Hon. Col. Gzey and other New Bruas wick members wivocnted vote by bullot MILILTARY TOMFOOLERIEE, Hon. Mr. Wowr conteaded all the Proâ€" vinges should make compromises and adap* themmselves to the general measure, i aanning me Reprame towsl The Bill constitaticg the Nupreme Court has got into print by some unexplain~d «is | t.ke, «ithout pr vlousiy reseiving the sane tion of the Dowmiulona QGovernment. A draft of ies prinermpal contents has also apposates 1 t mm Let us, therefore, see whhnt Oe M of Justics Intendel by his draft, before it was AQually approved ut by hbile assâ€"mbled collzagues in Councit The Suprems Court ot the Dominion ot Cunaie was toâ€" cousist of a Ohnist Justicâ€" z00 «ix Putsne Jastices, four of whom could «it in the Abeâ€"nce of the other two, Th pracâ€"io« ; and ano Pubspe Justice could be apâ€" point d unicss he hawt boeen a Judye in somâ€" ons of the asme Courts, or a preoviatug lawpes of. en yoars stan fing _ Ths Onief Justice of the Aupreme» Court was to havs prevedâ€"noe of ; ali ino other Judges is the D=mialon, and th» Pmaene Juticos otf the same Court, pre ewiguce ove«r all the c: JInmoges, with th« ex~»â€"ption of the â€"A Justice and Caane Hor. The Jusiives were to have been appointet during gomt pleasur», but wore to have been sub)ot to removal upon an widress concunrst in *f both Hous»* of Parliamâ€"nt. The Court was to to ho!d it» sitting in Ontâ€"wa, and, sangally, beld ta+o termu_â€"the fArst commenscing on the this Monday in January, and the second on the Orst Montay in Juns, Thse torms wer each to last: twonty days, with power‘to adâ€" Jmra. fhom nme to tim«* lhhl"ouu- u‘wnh have been obeyed all the tnfâ€"for courts. The Court, or any one of is Juiges, wase to hav= powet to urint Appeals 4. Aauwk avan where thrÂ¥ Wwere Bob de« Ont f Juwlce should have previously been a Judg : of the Suprem»« Court of some one of me Proviaces, or a lawyer with Afto a ypouse 1+ @wes oven where thry werse B0b de« matded : in the time Axed. ‘l\o”' PAKL!IAMEKNT «RY 3UMMARY kets see Fourth deposit in cases of a; or evror w1 bhare been $800. 'R:‘omm. g=(i<1 was to bare been n:mtud to bring . relative to the canstitgtionallty of legisl by the Provincial lahl-imo- bw fo#et Supreme Court, and Court was de ;v:“. ('?::tz‘ofl‘o-%n Law amt E4 Â¥,. â€"vernor,. 0 neral was to ce by: proclamation, whem it would be coms ted. and hare force awd effâ€"ct. Dominion Parliament. The SPEAKEK ml the chair the usual hour. } After routine h-'... xp.'nu n 1» moved an t & E ‘~a Commuiselon and t;"flyd thoue whwhn.x-- F.-“ * -‘.-h-- Â¥ t 4 ‘ _ Mon. Mr. «'.;x ELJL, sant the Of the C & 1 he hnm‘h‘?‘n and such portions @f the instructions as the Governor ‘.:‘M tet l.m communichte ; there migh, of cowa>t, 1e pstuions cha could not bo«n.n:!w"““t ind at could not be meatec. Hon. Mr. HAZEN was . glad the mLunn hid been made, as there was an oxtraâ€" ordinary contro going on in |Now Brunswick, as toâ€" ther the Loutgnont Governor had to dmsolve the Legisâ€" Mon Mr. DICKEY aw a atatement re t seven flm. & mnd. Amounts of <lsimse Conmumnissioners material the work, and the foml and horsea, tog: oo contractors and workmen. lst. Amounts of claims made to tomâ€" mismoners for work done, but wholly or in part unp«aid by the contractors, from the several months May lust to the@ preâ€" sent date, chmimse of such contractors and ts pod by sulcom tractors to on theso claims or rem uning unpaid., | _ _ o ns Ird. Amounts paid by the Commupmmonâ€" ers on account of the foregoing cluimms re w.‘,; show various . notes of perâ€" centage of on amounts clwme 1 and b.lances duo. â€" _Ath, Amounts of monthly . the work done by the contrac payments on acequnt with dat Sth. wt monthly percentages returned under contracts, &¢. dth.. Copies of pondence in relaâ€" nE y Aiz i the minutes or r4ports h(:zd Of Commissioners to the zkyuujn’d‘l elsime. k The mover said it was well Kn.WH u0 contracts hia‘aj sectionse â€" hadl xon mm the contractors having broken as it htd?‘.hmn they must, l at the prices for which they had contracted. In makigg his motion he hid wiubhed to call the attention of the Hoyse to the Mufiomollbmth.w‘ not been pakl in full, there being some | zubohnowdpy .A:.wmlun-:r g‘“m‘“ th it blio works of the abi ..i".‘.',.....a'?‘.""w"{?.'.“""‘: y to 6 w ho :Q 1::'”' and he was sure it was he wish of in the House that. tho labourers ‘‘be fully remunerated. He was unde to auggeat th it if there were any id moneys on hand,due the contractors, they should be kept back to satiafy the c of the labourers. Hon. Mr. C amid, the return would be f MHon. Mr. N aid, there was : no doubt a feeling in the country, wherein Ihm‘nh- lay,, at the nonâ€" payment . the labqourers It was certainly to be regretted that such claims existed, but neither the CUovern ment nor the Commissioners hi foteseen that any body of labouring men would alâ€" low arrears to accumulate. . He believed mm about h: months‘ arrears. n explunal that pereniages h ud been paid to staftkh of men (in some cases hpr.dufi- «maller) owing to the irregularity with which subâ€"contractors h peared to receive their money. llou'u{ ..-dlbm- asaked for had been loft in Ngw + anmd he was afrid some time must elapse before the return could Te fowe then wont into went into C itteo a- m.‘Enhuu to lm:oq and of Exhangeâ€"Hon, Mr. ( HAMILTON, of Kingston, in the chair. . MHon. Mr. CAMÂ¥BELL explained the nature of certain verbal amendments which had be n suggestel to him, and which he had decaded to adopt. Considerable discusmion sroso as 10 1he amount of ntional fees hx‘«(u “““W W‘ihll ampunt Nhn:&. M) conts for protest, amt 25 conts notice. ‘The Bul is to ..”mo. the 8th day of Nepiember ing the d.te of its emact ment. | & < it _ The Committee rose and Bill as amendeéed, concurrenc. on Tuesday next. ____ _ Hon. Mr. I.E.‘fltl.l. moved the second rewling of Bill,, an Act _ respeting Certilicates of Masters and Mutes. He wid thit th> questions involved in the Bill were ouou interest to s«hippers, merchants ..nfu...:»f:»rkmh' Dominion, and there was t -cn-saau _m',hf.o enacment of the Hill, & $hw-fully recognised (by the mercan community lhmi\n the Merchant Shippiag Act of 1334 (Great . Britan) bhe said thro was one 'mtm that no vessel could leave any port in the United Kingdom without .‘fl.w.’l .“.(m 'I”.’-w (Great . Britum), _be said thoro was one provision thatno vessel could leave any port in the United Kingdom without hiving a Mastur and Mate on board , who um‘ examinations . before the Trado tribunals.: This reguâ€" Intion thouo ol waes of MMogrs d‘d.v‘t The practical result of that had been that only a very few ships» thit left British American ports for the Uni mwum.n back agiin the same as the qualiications of wuch dfficers did not come up to the requ NM;?G‘;’NN:“W;”" cate ‘p* to n tilen S ahn maloas eniniants inconveniâ€"née of owners. When it was conmdered |that the tonnage of the Domimon ranked the fourth in the world, it would be readily admitted that such a Bill as that before tho House was want a Bill as that before the Houw wi. Me did aot think it noops the various | islon«a of the that all would « y lbnmloo legiabature previating the scope of the D ed to fi;‘: Mites in th nion in acs with tho law J the Do Parlinment. Mon. Mr. MeCULLY was afraul that if our tribunils of examination did not care> fully serutinize candilates, aml exact a. c‘dwdofluem' y" that our m would fuil to pis» muster umnmm Ho pw'mM tikeos to know what was the uature of the sul» jeot examined in Englund, and what was to be proposed here * He hul no douwht but our young men wers quit® is capible and '-lon'l.n as any in the kinglom, but it would be necessary to put them lhnn:: a course of examination @equalâ€"to t English Me had some doubts whether Minister of Marine would succeed in ofi. for he remembwre I that a tril been attempted in Nova some years ago, for exâ€" amining and mates, but it fuled, and he was afraid the Minister would fail, Creraw a, March N A T E _@laims mM materials« « ved an addreoga ts ) wib t 100® P the lau:z‘ fees for ng. fea. dn o mpun w of m 1DC | s nesin in hi . ement of the Hill, | ,,, lully recognised b"’. hy lag" Act of Ta n «ald _ thâ€"re was o vessel could leave | ;; was saure 1t was House that. tho y remunerated. oeat th it if there n hand.due the II kn wn the .: Mon, Mr. we tm Wikk q;Llidl Mtes grante l un wl sufficient by ». muml if our nvaas nvaik t 6 reported the tw be tik n wo | en mra, «ul amut the the second a was wantâ€" wÂ¥ to review ‘"Q â€" pprted by C te ; inion was in a NSR | Khyga ~Ncotin, f th o Wpr, ho u. fkd § NS® | slCominations poart a« thoke in 1 *C*" | thay «hould b¢ e te although he did want hm to do «0. mb 9 u. Mr. lk‘lfln’-l donu‘t often the »im, but ..,1: Mow. M+., MERCHELL said be was jist | C i+ anxious as| any of his houourable | 1 Erbeavele coukl be to make it as | | partoct as tor he fi“‘m“ w t * of the importance to ahipâ€" | J ping interests of the Dominion. He had | ! many years ago endoavoured to bring this | ! very matter tho Canadian Governâ€"| | ment, and ho hi been in the |, Domimon t the matter hbul been in his mbhul. HMe then reâ€" | terred t the whuels ind | tiken plwe _the DPominion Govâ€" ernment and the British Board of Trude, to ahow ghat e exertion had been made to pliee our and mates on equal footing with ish mgriners. lle was aware that 3 Neoths had tried n‘:: complish this & wnme yoare t ae wl mm u.":&;- alone, u-;c ted by, Colonies, «he Fiilod. injon was in a very different position to Npva {wcotin, there was every resomnâ€" uArante« thit where the latter failed ie tormer 1 amcceed. The British t, he s«ail, not provide that our i o omminnen t ho be m‘L the io as thoke in England, but merely that they should equ (lly efficient ; noe did the British an! io« aalk that we should hm-t-.n uumm.l'd rl':l ination ; was stipalated for was that there s«hould be the «ame efficiency. _ _ there ahould tbm-m Hon. Mre ‘ULLY to the British Act, to show that cermwin rules and re gulations > anmd asked if tho Minister yot those then, armd whether he to embaly them in the Bill. ; Hon. Mr. MITCHELL sail he proposed, as would be zmnmnumna.- established by| the in Council, to to be alte cireumstances might r« quire, anmd be thought that was a betâ€" wrmtfi.m&-wfifi auch details . hok ~>: _ L V1%8 MHon. Mr. "LLY sakdl he hoped the House would think he was trespassing upon time but nlhofl'.‘; tion was one ntyc“ interest to Maritime inces, comablered it his duty to give measure full attention. llnhm# the nearer weapproached English lo m, the better, for English b hw wis founded . perience and Mamncc ht id ta tatlen io. the megmated ummd.mzfld-‘i-'b establishm: nt of a school for education and mmqur. men in matters relating to navigition, in fact, a school in each Province, and he felt sure it would be impossible tq overâ€"sstimate the benefits that woul t t from such institutions. Hon. Mr. A.‘.onumluoulo.fl abroad that Provinces ware not o. oo irinciipaded thnuntl the Protines: # mnces having claason mariners. He fully in the remark of his hon. frien 1 (Mr. ,) that it was m\ tant to our legialation to ‘l-.l-.d. in mercantile mat tors ; and that end would . sug» E:- that | the Bill befors the be put tothâ€" latest morme nt in order to «¢o what would be the result of mfi;Mu he understood the vr of Marine to .:L'- going on thâ€"re on matters before House. Hon. Mr. MITCHELL said, hi» hon no legislation in progress, nor, as he was «wure of, intended in England on these amoatters. mimittée Hon. Mr en Houses could be hbeard on the mailter, and he male the suggestion with the greiter confidlence, becayse the Minister % @ to & M’m ice, and |W|hthnbâ€"ub% intorest which was affocted by should be Hon. Mr. U also had a liking toe nglinh ‘praetien, h he Aipught a good, but at t time it should be considered that Trinity Boards inâ€" volved expenaive Hon. Mr. FERRIER mked whethor, as the Bill ted making the Departâ€" mont of Marine a construct.ve one, it was the intention to erect a lightâ€"house at Bird Rooks of wood, stone, ron or brick. Mr. MeCWLLÂ¥Xâ€"Well, that might Me dicd want him to full on v he wis really anxious that he ons HMe bad bul some experionce in wp Mr. Noh [ was Mitihe to put ap a chang matters on t ama ‘;:;.:.en.fl-n tlu&wmd-ll light l bhquses | were efficient, and every nes '..ry'lnurlnw and not at all afraid of their being blown down. He sii that \ Mr. Hugh Ail«o, the largest, fh} | the Dom.nion, «beroughly | "P A | choap light houses, and had «ud by alt :| Bm ie tiy ahong in B pot i W to delying the * :‘1‘-2" ramis * loen bnnl.r‘h' Was enpasiap lignt nounren, means put up onA With respect to de Trinity Boards prepared to admi OTTAWA TIMES. MARCH 19, 187 p k > _ a Hon. MÂ¥r. HUNTD I rect the summary of the (et ome of the am P he wis h _ W# that if the C N wivocnted â€" the ‘1{ t« tishâ€" eImvire could Lo tishâ€" «npire could 1 What he did ?'- and progress of the q-.o*hupnflz{.fi am4 consolid to P UEANIRGE E. CAKTIER, wit bulrawn. Mr. YOUNO moved â€" â€" Mr, M. C. CAMERIN ll._nu)gdpa‘d Qntbo-.uinauo â€" O onler. He intewiel 1o oppose the ..T-tuc After a few words the | Hon. Mr H144 _ Mr. YOUNG morvel that the n&m anal psymu& the of Mont he referred to in Accounts Com» Mr. CARTWRIGHT introduced a log lh“!;nm a of na atrv Atrne ri M | nummma. no.\'.\t.ninw duced a Bill to a Supreme Court of Appeal for t U« sail the measure ..W.Q“Mn -th. last ate whoeh, â€"wus wmore 4 measure, which become law ;,but had -ml‘ thed; the w aind critticiams of the different in the Dominion having been carefully considered. _ He might mention that carly copies the measure had distributed irregululy, sasd he warn rd--n.-b b'w any defective hl many| respects. '1’3 chief of the messure was the establi vf a of Rrrot and Apâ€" peal for.the whol: Dominion from Proâ€" vqahlmu-lc conferred upon this Parliament |n,lb IMth clause of the British North America et.llod‘flm pose to discuss the until it was the hanmis of mem annd â€" it briefly explain its ions. The Court £1 18 11 U lxlence ol Ihe pcjpiad <trl Li all the l‘nv'rpu-'-. P:ul yhhm impossible and unwis« that there should . & ou.fofnd':! Mr. HUNTINGTON beggel to scor fpeator! Frop "thh viaid at 3 & OF malel 0t drawn ;. to sed beiore hn " ® to the m« ment | anilogous to the pr tioe s he prepair@d to say | England, when theC ment had goxl | invite not only the apini i insi«ted wis, | but also of .lha Sudici 1 bus . in their | the Privy Council m'j_:m_v € fi * M lb: inlmnlb:i:'mlo \ th a frim. NHon. Mr. | jw or t wdicigl Co nitt.« ro«* and reâ€" mo gontaining th bue l‘uwo hen @1 | the points submitted to : _.| _ ) a certiticate lwoukl u‘u')l lu: ypm i 4 t woul t on coyx xo®ss br the Court for thi in â€"« Crown, bearing to the Cr Â¥ A, J 1810, whmu%nx:\ it qe « T â€" chair at 3$.35] certificate of cn.\,nw | effect, though not a lega they ware yory hul the tont ill their â€" pensive, and ho «W a% Whet sYÂ¥ . Fl-li p'\-o:_i;: pers, in whic ##& ‘r‘“lin& thk ©OLwH Was terestwl in a swt ‘fi'w mitter founded upon the Act Axecution of the law on th powers _ wWIICI the â€" Act, 4 lion â€"hire 4b clau«es which } enabling the 44« io send before : Provincial Courts antl T Appert, 41 Cl Appeal, the -01 ferred to them as a| animon would not Lb of Appeal, the s point could be re ferred to them -mt resort, and thei mmn would not be likely to change gh, of course, they would not b boumdl to their original opinion, it aft hearing the ar nts in the case, an ujpion more mature « liboration, they saw to dunmo‘or modify it. He would trouble the House with any remarks as the machinery by which it was proposed carry out the provi«| ns of the Bi}l. The was the simple re«ly system of {summ : anne il. which he thought ought to be e carry out the provi«l ns of the was the simple re«ly systeim appeil, which ho t ought ou couraged as mu old form of a writ wouE not â€" 1w away â€" suldenly away _ suddenly. | 1t would be 1 possibie to do s0 without interferi with the practice in the Provinces. all the pvofo-hulismtlcnmn who he him would agree with him that the gene current ofnntborit“:u to do away wi everything of that kindâ€"to do away wh the almost obsolete system of a .writ error, and versions f other old writs whi m continued .r:‘t‘hu to impede t t . justice ; : to encourage much _ as possivle, a -y-u-m'. re«dy, summary and inexpensive m 1\-"' f of the Bill, aitho s n it was _lu-rz"fo copies that had i ularly got out, that the Provincial peal should be a musted before vould be an to this Court; Ino words, thit there be an appeal this Court from any Court of original j diction in the l‘n‘h«- till the case wme through the| regular process 1 through the regular sa . Trom fhe court ‘of onginat jurisdiction to ‘ll the different C of A in the Prov inces :; «o that the appéal should only be from the final Court of Appeal in the â€" imncoes, except by the consent of the ties, hwhklu-&. would be no jection to a caso directly from Court d%l ‘tuhdm to Supreme Court. &i these remarks would move the revling of the Bil Mr. BLAKE expressed his satisfact with theé amendm. nts that had been ma«de., matters. The Hon. Minister of J had made an chbs¢érvration w.th mk. to the Su Court of the United which C (Mr. Bake) un::flt was y corprect. As far as ho ratood it, Constitution of Supreme Court of United States, it no power to detpr mine a cise, excepft upon a case, brought it between parties, and then the qu comes up of the constitution«lity, or un constitutionality of an ‘Act ‘of the Legi lature. ton. Sir GEORE E. CARTIER said) it the Supreme l‘o:rt give .ts «pinion, that an Act is against the constitution, that decision is final in any c:so afterwards, that A~t cnnnol“at invoked as law in 4ny part of the union afterwards. Hon. J. H. CAMERON, (Peel) . whether there was »ny provision with gard to the veto er by the Dom! tiovernment u Aots of Local 1e ture, exactly in the same way as in C@ke» likl befors the Jwlicial Committee of in | England ? ,,Wheother they intend of the Domimon Gov Tr'" not +ee why these should no visions, unle=s there were s# amsaimet â€"it. Dominion U Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said as regards Acts« passed by the ion Parliament, under the system of responsiâ€" ble Government, the Crown must t to Bills, although there is an older {power m.‘d \K Crown, which hi« never formally a@lxlicated, by which/it can refuseo assent ; but this power has, tâ€" Bills, although | there is an Oider {power m.«l bl{ Crown, which his| never formally @ixlicated, by which/it can refuso assent ; but this rom-r has, tâ€" ly, never been pxerci«ed and never |will be exercisad ; for it 'Otgd produce a |revoluâ€" nonl ! the C ete to veto fhe: deâ€" liberatefaction of the two brancheg of the mum power. to re or exista in but it had never been exerci t would ‘be a difficult thing for any re wonsable Minister|to adâ€" ied 1y the) Lords 460 Colttafia, in _ Jim our colonial existence there is a r reâ€" s«arrved to t'lfid(.ionmor, under his inâ€" atructions, ich does not exis}, even the Rovereign hers If, that is power of reservation. Here the Governor General, in the ceaiQration o) the Crosfe Toh for the P the C It is well . understool : that the Roversign ¢ he (before in | person, sahe must ex her power by Her repâ€" resemtatives, and it i« quite consistpnt with our caloni« existence. for the re ntaâ€" tive of the C to teserve any asuire resemxtatives, apd it i« quite consistpnt with our coloni« existence for the re ntaâ€" tive of the C to teserve any asure fo» the considgration of the Crowh itself. Bat, with that singl» exception, that the Governor ( d may reserve ac for the considerition of the Crownâ€"the ernor General is } 1 to act upon advice of his tional advisers, 1 ‘no constitutional! Ministers can ad the nmjection of any measure which thas reâ€" eceived th > of the C s and Smatd of Ciriadry, _ > K _ on J. H, YAMERON . (Pe+lh asked whether iha bon-.nmom. had under onâ€"{leratioa the question of appe.l to he when the C t only the api of cthe Judi which been |pmitt« h he had ‘read » Governdr Gen« we the Court an ubmitted to thein, b would not have the ell It woul fonly be the . for thé. information ing to n.:'cs;wu thnl 1 upon it or disregan rgllm cm’n would have th not a| gal effect, 1 ourts antl upon the wh suit between parties in we ie PM ns possible, Still f error and appeal : Litwu w.ll1 knoxn io Proym e,g¢ind he Aot, to revisit the on the ground that C rwdl tuocrefore he and then the que« timately before the â€" Court of Appeal W tGieneral in Council rLl ‘"y plNN‘w CAse ce what prevails in whn can at any time ily be the opim information of t ‘rown the re«ponsi disregard it. T would have a mora tal effect, upon t pon the whole wirt, being ‘a C .. MACDONALD ; conferred upor un must Le gover med by the sa » Crown in Ennj 1t ar the L mon wiwliction in ourt, Thereâ€" â€"all _. those inserted â€" in the i «trong The is W ¢ GOv 11 M 18e tw re n Td n A I€ C ad any and be a all iclal th to â€"the it. reme as to ‘*t«, or ninion the rea and . hor may ow a W LC he Supreme Court was established hore, o jrepeal th» Imporial Statute, by which ppeal to England was now mudle ? Whether the judgment of the Supreme "durt haore was final, or whether a case was alll liable to be taken across the Atlantic u} the Privy Council ? BR Hon. Nir‘JOHN A. MACDONALD said wh had no power to deprive a British subâ€" ect of the right of going to the foot of the rone for redress, and ho would be sorry see that power abdicated. It wouid: ive great contidence*to our own fellowâ€" ubjects, coming frrm the Mother Country 0 this country, to know in this (to them) comparatively foreign country, that they ould be protected in the last resort by n appeidl to the tribunals they know. With »very respect |to the distinguished,. men ho composed ‘our courts, he thought it was i great advantage to our Provincial Courts to resort to the body of great and good mep who compose the Courts of Englard. He‘ thought it better that the right of apâ€" peal to the foot of the Throne should conâ€" winue ; for, so long as that continues, our Courts will be oblifed to look up to the decisions of tho great he na m i ho 1to it its when was not obligatory to come to the Supreme ‘ourt, unless it might be so provided an ppeal could be made f any Court of lecord to the Privy Council. | The Bill was read a first time, and the second retdin1 fixed for 'l‘uo(hy next. Hon. Sir. JOHN A. MACDONALD moyed the third readin &:ftbc Act, to amend the Act, :J,ocfin; the tréatment of sick and lise Mariners ; and said in referâ€" ence to the question of the member for Lambton, as to a check on improper persons obtaining access to the Hospitals, that the Bill provided, that no person would be admitted except on the certifiâ€" cate of the Collector of Customs, that ho was a seaman on board the ship to which he represent«d himself to belong. The Bill was read a third time and pv’:-;' T P7 $ 009090 ts oo t c s h e css ~ Mr. MILIS resumed the dobate on the secomd reading of the Bill respecting the election of members of the House of Comâ€" mons,. He‘s~‘d he felt some embarrassâ€" ment, ‘ knowing the views he entertained on the subject were not shared by many in the lHouse, In regard to the qualifiâ€" cation ; while the question ought to be what a voter was, the answer in the Bill defined what he had. In asking the aid of a professional man, the first question muwhhttt:bility, â€"not as to his pos: «ession, and t seemed to have been overlooked in this case. In England, he w«imitted there should be some relation between representation and taxation, owâ€" ing to the old custom of laying on a land t1x on the boroughs. But here the chief part of the taxation was indirect, and the man who smoked a cigar, or whowore a shirt, pid taxes and could claim in this way the right to be represented, and thereâ€" fore it was unphilosophical and absurd to say that only the pnxeny of another should be admitted as the qualification. He could not understand why such a rule should exist" in municipal {:odnu which dealt only with questions of property, but :}o:l that it should be ldd.‘down for a, body dealing on a subject affecting personal rights and liberty, It was dd‘ that every one should have a stake in the country, nd this he admitted, but this ever sober, industrious m«n had, and such a one might take as much l"u;umt in :‘he Governmen.d‘ht s the men w at w k The member for I:fumt-i-lo fl;mplnn «d that the Bill did not g far enough, that w1 rge number would be disfranchised nd that on the fround of intelligence men should be admitted to the franchise. He (Mr. Mills) admitted, with the Minister of Justice, that the franchise was not a ~ight but a trust.. But he could not see what right they had to exclude those who could show (by. their intelligence, they: were qualifiel, for this intelligence,not the mere accident of property, should give such a right. There were many reasons why they should extend the franchise here th t did not exist in Britain ; there was an unlimited area ; there was no class noeesâ€" sarily |rmpo°t-, and there was no more inâ€" dapendant class anywhere than were the ted as â€" did also the responsibility of || those who governed and &trouu{ soâ€" | . ciety in the welfare of society. Such a | franchise unite all classes, and not cut adrift th¢e lower ch-a from those |. above them, levelling, but a levelling up, not down. The greatest obstacle to the advance of the ooun_'rz,‘mpmooodod not from those who would be fited by the franchise, luEby the wealthy chu:; who formed rings wornâ€"out leogisâ€" lation.. Wou! mwammmnt insist on such conditions ‘from those who might be called upon to enter the militia, as they did from those who sought th uuln&: Gladstone observed that the success of E }.\'orthom Republic in the late war, was due to the extension of the franchise, beâ€" eauce whether the people had (!;no- perty or not, it had a voice in the Govâ€" ernment of the Country. The excellence of representative institutions, was not that [better laws could be made. A few able men might make these better. A dug might have a cheaper Government than Minister of Justice gave them. But a representative Government: was a great school for the people, yet they proâ€" posed to let the most important time pass nmo:x:ho class whom this Bill proposed to exclude. tt was the yonn% men, under 21 years, who without debt or responsiâ€" bility . wot::l! to whom they refused the franchise, offered it to them when the cires of life and its struggles prevented ltlwgn from giving such attention to the ; subject they wâ€"re called on to vote. The :pm&omy of thtoount‘r‘{‘:“unotduo to | the tisheries or to :flc alone, but | the education of . All the | evils spoken of as e the United 'm were drawn from New York, which was not the United States, and for this the immense emigration. Even with this he thought the country, with the extendâ€" _ ed sufirage. would compare favourably y before chunfn in their property. If a town became a city, and on the incorporation: of evory new town, the same thing might hipp n. Then, again, a town, it might be decided, should, in Ontario, not have less thin 5,000 of a population, while in New Brunswick it might be 1,000. .A propâ€" rietor may be disfranchised, while his tenâ€" ant may have a vote. _ Now they bad proâ€" posed that an income of $400 was to give a vote, but it now turned out that this was only if it represented capital, while perâ€" sonal property derived from industry was deprived of it. _ _ .. _ as®. 1. _ Hon. Sir JOALNâ€"A.â€" MACDUONALIY SMUQG) 1 that the franchise was given to any one having an annual salary or income, not the aggregate amount of days‘ wages. . Mr. MILLS said it was objected to use the Jlocil machinery because the Governâ€" ment had ho control over it to drect it ; yet they had in other matters, they had exerted control over the local officers in respect to legil duties. The American Governmont did the same thing, and no inconvenience had been feit to arise from it. The member for West Toronto had argued that there ought to be uniformity, but there was no uniformity in individual qualilications, and if not ‘nocessary in inâ€" (lividunls, he did not see why it was necessary in the Provinces, _ He referred to the dissatisfiction that would arise from ‘the disfranchisement of young men in Ontario, ten per cent. of the whole in rural constitut ncies being young men who wereâ€"assessed, on the r fathers proâ€" perty. Jt was against the law, but public opinion out ran the law, and tiwy h ,.d the franchise. By the present Bill they will be excluded. Nee# yass Hon. Sir if he (Mr.. done contt _Mr. MHLS spoke of law in‘ a moral sensoâ€"a higher law. Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD asked if he meant fraud on an agsessor was a new moral sense ? XHWWE on & Hon. Sir JOHX A. MACDONALD said perhaps he would wish to have universal suffrage as in British Columbia. _ _ > Mr. MILLS, certainly he would;*and he believed the opinion was leading in the right direction. . He advocated the frinâ€" chiso being left to the Provincial Legislaâ€" tures, any objection to tl}:,provi;inns being thus more easily reac as the Local Houses were more amenable to public gpinion than that of the Dominion. In ew Rrun=wick the ballot should be more respected, and he believed if the officers of the Crown were to vote, the ballot would be ah.-olutelf' necessary. â€" Otherâ€" wise their votes would be simply so many q_bl?od in the hand of the Government. There was much to be said in favour of :fin voting, but he warned the House t if the officers of the Government were to vote, they would introduce the system ‘so much objected to in the United States, if these officers changing with cach administration to the great detriment of the service. ‘"With reurect to simultanâ€" tous voting, having all the eleggiions on one day, he did not deny the indepen,, dence of the people of tlis country, but the country was liable to be overrun with ' cu::lf)-follower-, who being intent on booty would plunder the dead, and kil the wounded. These men woere not such as would be disfranchis. d. They occupied a higher strata, but were trusting to this for a living, ‘being too indolent to work, and ‘too proud to beg. He objected to the e>ntinuance of the system in existence, as M by it the Government constituencies were first taken, and the fighting could ‘be all done on one side. f It being six o‘clock the House rose. AFTER RECESS, Mr. MILLS resumed.â€"He said he had no doubt, the Bill would have most misâ€" chievous effects in the Maritime Provinces, where the defranchisement of many, now enjoying full electoral privileges, would create a formidable party among those who had made up their minds to accept the situation. There was no doubt, if any ch ince were offered of withdrawing from the Union, the Antiâ€"party would be as strong as when the House first sat. He did not object to the member for Hants joining the Government, but hbe thought it a most unjudicious step, on the l:a.rt of the Government, to promote an on, gentleman from this House to the Sâ€"nate, making the litter a sort A Magâ€" dalen asylum for gentlemen seduccd by the hon. gentleman opposite. This House must be very careful as to what laws were pissed. that. might bave the «RHect of further annoying the people of the Lower Provinces. Every householder in Newâ€" foundland has now a vote, yet the hon. gentleman opposite asked them to come into the Union to be disfranchised. The position of the Govérnment all .along, seemed to be, that they considered this Parliament, as that of old Ca conâ€" tinued. He thought it most unjudicious and unfriendly to say before hand, what the electoral franchise shall be in the Proâ€" vihces, not yet in the Union ; to tell them, in fact, that their influence i;ere shall not be felt. He called the attention of the House to the irrelavency of the franchise prosmed He thought that the Minister of Justice could, with proYriety, ndfl)t the franchise of the local Houses. His opinion was that the time was not far o:fi when every man in the country w have a vote, when the political sentiment of the country would not be demoralised by the registration system. â€" _ 7 *Hon. Col. GREY thought that if every one in the country was educated and full of virtue, the theory of the hon. gentleman might be very suitable, but the matter must be considered practically, .Property qualification was the prorer criterion on which the franchise should be based, beâ€" cause it showed the intelligence and apâ€" plication of the wouldâ€"be voter and was prima facie evidence of the interest he must feel in the country _ In reference to the argument that the peotlo of Newfound. land and New Brunswick were not conâ€" sidered in the matter, he said that that was no reason why the interests of the four millions of people in the Dominion should be neglected. These people only amounted to the upopuhuon of a couple of townships, and if the Minister of Justice had legislated to suit tbem the member for Bothwell would have called him a perâ€" fect Harlequin legislator. The hon. gen-] tleman mxm rest â€" assured that, New Brunswick men of her own:rxo, it necessary, could defend her rights without being patted on the back by him. HMe. thought that there were some of the e tails of the Bill which required to be amended in Committee, for instance that relating to the five yeirs rental; but on the whole he believed that it was an exâ€" tens on of the franchise of the whole ‘Doâ€" muinion. He was not prepared to enfranâ€" chise the floating population spoken of by the member for Bothwell, as they had no real interest in the country. If the franâ€" chise were extended thus far, you might as well have universal suffrage. , Mr. MILLS â€"Would you entrust thesa le with the defence of the country ? o. mt uio toiaget uf "Ao she sremie trust any man t up in th ount _even if ho had notsrhilhu-mt-h ite JOHN A. MACDONALD asked Mills) wished to sanction acts ry tolaw. k i1 _ Withou If a town I necorporati ne thing ce. n many un | th ny | tha tha arc the : throu old ri no UI1 thy Han. COL. G] the ballot whic} in Now Brunswi moade of taking Aposti@ l‘aull and all us («.' ilr. mIMARD explained thatwe g referred to, had been viohq‘ and that the roll books hag (we but that the committee of H. tirely exonerated him fromt G hear). % Hon. Mr. CONNXELL did enter at great length into 1 desired to call attention t He thought the machinery ted. In New Brunswick assessors â€" made un the ence. Tt would be ‘"y one of those voln assessors â€" made up the lsp were examined by the assesson modo was so simple that in is containing 20,000 people,the #200. . By « the _ machinery Bill the expense would be very increased. The statementfth for St. ~John regarding the a mistake the qllllifi%ion being $)) estate. The eléctoral Taw of New Bra gave great satisfaction, and by :. election took place hn one d3. k. present Bill it was provided that trict should have 6() voters. In the presert districts there wer votes and such a law would compél to travel 20 or 30 miles to vote. i Brunswick whenever they found the in a parish become too numerous th l:iture was asked to div.de it thought it better thit this should vided for‘ in the Bill In J855 [::ed a law giving rote by hallor no wish to pres the amendment had given notice of, # wuuke it ; tend . beyond New Brâ€"t Nt | brought forward as a definite w should feel bound in principle Â¥aÂ¥i it, but trusted the G fit to yield the point gracefulls glad to hear the remarks of the for St. John on the suljest as be now “’ tm xe" M_ one on the subject. Briain ws the only country that had n# t at Parliamentary elections, was used in scientifi¢ and othe and a Bill had passed in C the arguments of leading men strong in its favour. He called the tion of the Minister of Costom provisions of the present Bill, see how he could support it ! clause left out, as it was his in New Brunswick which ‘had . c;)untry the ballot, :d he always spoken strongly n mode of g((;kung. To show the § the question in New Brunswic i extracts from. recent ‘comm®s He believed he was prepared P Bill fair consideration, but be b* amendments would ‘be made a W satisfactory to New Brunswic, & be rejoiced to gohomend?‘ ment passed one Bill which (ne provid, â€"__ _‘ _‘ :. / . 2 mt * Mr. CARON, who spoke in hes he was of opinion that the should be »bolished as well as &# proclama#ion, and thus & amount of trouble would be there would be none of th@* none of that chicanery whic ly characterised the nominat®® thought voters lists should i prepared, and he had . -‘I machinery would h‘_g‘g pose. _ He thought the Bil w# it eer "B useful measure to the fla he that & . syste ben amended in sape i# would hekmthe tee. (Hear, h them, hA Mt. E. X. i?m&@_.fi M )-.;:'t:atl the importance of a usB0® PE W the wlfole Dominion, id ® ie :ll to def the important as & uniform Bill for was Province. It would be absurd i for of th the next House gentlieme® wis that and ferent cliss s of voters. NW ask the be ia bedififian® :/ Th s the importince of a the whole Dominion important as & unifi tee, (Hear, } JRE PCE o. E.x. "saboouat C el them, than to give up that would not detain a-\-;‘:‘ of hase ®) l‘: t remirks. He was plQ % ' | m n: ly in Now'h'e::‘i; an 11174 convenience d inger tion law to be deilt l‘}‘ Legislature. There, s PSM) Local Legislature had :‘l‘ election for a member of be beld. He had dw(‘% Y armouth and of H«uts jus of conduccting thefelectio®6", the House of CommO», ‘:1 were liable to be remf y The provision that a ‘“” unless he held a last *) would â€" disfranchise # W the _ country di““ towns â€" in Novea were many }'9_‘â€" Province who held of shares in ships m had a stake in the 0090 this Bill, _ they would b¢ Porgonal propriy ms to be recognize _E‘_ h mittee. _ Another fi changes in this Bill in indicated, was M'“ it would‘ work injanost" foundland, if that Proti®p unm. l' 'wm’ in “ 1 iiducement to it to reied $r. (,X)SHQAN_!F: to be recognied, "*"" uy befmss s / would be modified in ths #' h“fi by 4 Mr, (AJSLIraAA! x principles of the BdL Han nl‘olt system he k::fl be sonal knowledge, t? well in New M"‘i elections, because th#t * j OROUUATHIM MTCCCCTCC of p gistration and also 1 °" number of voting plao* number of elector® less. <There W# not 8 2rmption and m open yO with by m‘mh“ had introduced new that had never beeh 5_ ::lelotlwu nn;m J elector polls and vote OP“VI :‘ choice. Only '!_ “‘ nt w I1s and yore "l""" E"l(;oice. Only the those make money °4) 0 y their votes. 1t 89 which they Mm ts votes to two Of though it did NQ" F" ze 9 4 l o al.‘l. + buying v0te® -‘”" . N"h“':’o: bound to buJ mors) M to ojall 14 was "a / certain 109 oo tm o Ctitise hy nected with the fi * n hmm"f‘f which ',re'wu& t ~ % doy (lleir votes, but w ’ k Miika troyed undefufi’:m,'.' \‘? ktox & a property l M 4 + buy T i#‘ ani above the 94 . ue L ane He thought th* > a k good effect, when * $ % L the whole 00““"7” 1 8 bat . great ua:;::ent ‘{.% $ . C "‘t ed were M,‘- fls‘ all ou Py t n t th W the Fm‘ it n \'Olm CR Who \e mt ler mhz:i n this ref he hon : be rmek found ty, ry L did no "'M'n O# ns $ rerel in fact b ®ho dat Â¥ of « had 3, Mlbiks nd 4 Te * "wtho We fhxy us laly 4 tw $ : . conted®""""" zced the *‘ He had al I es 0"0“ to spe" C _ a in favel" of fig'w, nige t ow Bf\ln‘wt‘ 4 & be TreP®*""" _Ld 1 yy.®* . . ""Mm‘:pm‘:” -0""'"' s y C :l:no'd“‘”w es of the ProZ®®At i a i | «witk pmitnt 5 Jg3, \being O is beim£ '.h"‘.. y he wat on taling )* onriarias= IP p t welect etnpen, m was n ts menerie aenes t o P iform inie :‘,:’mookhgo -ho\ll‘A en _Afl ofsua.h use ia «h0450 29° ~oy/tgaird Of ® ty. he had : rtree ib years lease, |fth'l"qfl hors required it wothd, tss *" number of his ments 1 to such high ‘propfl‘lfi He thought lectic g._-oondmll'h? * and e ve, and to it h P CAUD (Kent N B.;) ssid « o se unr Pogishas in s ~dhat * ish as 11 1 + ...m.nm 1B e cmacndaiih «ev id e prep.nd to admit that 1t : rmed @11 the abukes of open m the wholje it had worked w brought peace at tlections au with a good deal of ‘ bribery, f it all. +HMe hoped the Gove d notukeunydu's boon frc w@ick, as the poophofMP oi un une thiy Bill would out that this Bi =0in New Bru::'i&udd'l |nn!poogll%.wbosh.d Jong s be thought might be adopt ,fi-.nuninmflbom any | :br::nrd'to"dlowi% fl it the system : Registrat out that it inw ved the e lsines "Tthe "pivee ) ven , o ian i ".l::i is evil mi d by ing the for the -c: necessary t of pr with a mortghge on his j W ; vote i that he misst hold n a free and common M oo Bot Jounty Judges the work of k ters; as they had slready as 1 av'.fi.m.d to. Be ‘«hould ‘:not in any 5 up in politice, â€" There was : ve power given to Ba have power, for i ce of fi: of the which th umm ‘Judges | to do h“mi&;‘l‘ ) in a powution w nm\eupfl suspic ight the ‘Rherifis should4 b Mkommm‘fifi)lm. 1 p power to give the Governms« nmmgbun?t.nup bon, who would h we the appo e under them. also thoug s should held at t With to the general Bill exempting: the restrâ€" -it: power it : gay w & “_“-L BBA | other â€" ol of Qu e mes ot imperty Could z'ui-r “','I"g .:hu Te mgaer ies e w “I.'%dm- t be a « ‘fi , Bootin lfigfi expec | We t Provi in had to “aflh epntent to Â¥ oop 220000 pget in a g the wor,., 1 .005 . Ontaric w m it he C1 moo festures, ‘B nv ed of r. CAB i tats "\A‘. e n oo P & w‘. 6 in N i* i '@e He also °W OvimOn al P whe ing Officer, as a © mer do P‘ “m [ M) e with for ostigan) in to the ballot in New 1 M on e‘ wed 2 smy amount to vore, fome dn es mhe, ‘ \ -. could q worth ty giving th ’~ @‘ Tbeyc Sss m aonh molom m.._ Imust be a con ;'helfitl‘ federat®® _‘ . ald: es e k “ “ .u.ulh’ !:o‘:‘ -5:;“ 1 . ;’{n‘ n:r:: +. 13 "urd |â€"% 9 though it put in h -’Ptube J C t on is style his ex pe, but & n . Woop®] d uied o sbaudh f n _‘.A‘ in &ny »deration * n,tv-ll’l"""fl1 sobels for G se whi 6 sail he ue hoh mt to apnaint ‘cldctigess _ had trieg @Vey man H Fenians u;â€"-bmol A would be ¢], 1t w 4 had 16 :1‘.'“ be m« hF,.""‘., )et forâ€" Bot} aald ! "'lll"'“ a. v had “"'dn..u and n rours ¢ Yery $ 2t Sanaf ICanev in levrar * and tho " and bad j the cheet® irs in thit, onfederatio 1 d Feni! mmont 4 being t expecte ; an * a part Confe® to accet aC w r€ nsen t 3 in M 1 not )â€"(he Le(n‘::i simt rel ASAL T pul ma bel wl 1

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