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18 [ t tt 13 ._ For Diamond Jewellery, for the * Britis\ Columbia Ball, see Young & Radford‘s new stock. Houses Buailtâ€"A. Gagrig_; For Fine Gold Jewelleryâ€" ung & Rad â€" For fine Gold Jewellery, for the British Colimbia Ball, go to Young & Radford‘s. © If we analyze the ministerial scheme, as propounded by Sir mw,-.‘ shall find that inste .d of the Government being subject to or answerable for an outâ€" lay of 30 millions of dollars, the probaâ€" bility is that, thanks to their skilful treatâ€" montolthoq‘nlfi'on,thy'fllh.-.p cieut funds on hand derived from the sale of lands within the limits on the line of route to defray the money subsidy. f In the* first instance one million of dolâ€" lars has to be deposited with the Receiver General, and no money subsidy is to be paid for the two branches mentioned in the resolutions ; viz., one from Pembina to Fort Garry, and the other from some point on the main line to Thunder Bay. The first portion that have to be built will be that uc-rzu-u Fort Garry, the construction of which will occupy, what with delay in starting, &c., not less than the first year, This portidnof the line will cost ione and a half million ot dollars," besides © which the line will have to be commenced simultaneâ€" ously . at. Fort â€"Garry; Nepigon Bay, Thunder Bay, and British Columbis, and before the contractors can expect to receive any money subsidy, they will proâ€" bably have had to expend not less than five millions of dollars. Surely this must be considered sufficient security to ensure the building of the road throughout its entire length. Then it will probably take from eighteen months to two years before any money subsidy is demanded, during all of which time the road will be staked off, and the Gorernment be disposing of their lands on the side of the line, so that it is but reasonable to sitppose that they will at the start, as well as in the future continue to be in the receipt of sufficient funds wherewith to deféray the money subsidy as it is called for; ford‘s zs F For Diamond Jewelleryâ€"Young 4& ford‘s. % 7 For Fans and Boquet Holdeasâ€"Young & It was calculated last year that the cost of buiiding thae Pacific Railway would amount, in round numbers, to 100 milâ€" lions of dollars, and Mr. Mackentie at once intimated that the Government were going to increase the debt of the Domin. ion to that extent. Healso stated that he did not believe that it would be built for the above amount, as hehad heard some*e parties estimate that it would cost as much as 180 millions of dollars; Now when the Government propose to have the road built at a total outlay of 30 milâ€" lions of dollars, and when Mr. Mackenâ€" zie himseit acknowledges that he is aware that there are two parties, at least, who are ready to undertake tho contract, it sâ€"ems difficult to understand why he, toâ€" gother with the leading Opposition organs, should affect so much astonishment and indignation when the Government only ask for less than one third of the amount which, last session, Mr. Mackenzie said it would cost. _ Un Saturday last the representatires from the Island of Cape Breton, compris« ing.Hon. Messrs. Levisconte and Mcâ€" Keagney, Messrs. Ross and Cameron, toâ€" gather with the senators representing that diâ€"trict, had an interview with members ol the Gorernment for the purpose of pressing upon their notice the claims of the county of Cape Breton to one of the two additional members to which, under the last census, Nova Scotia is entitled. lands is $7 per acreâ€"that in Kansas, which is 600 miles from the Mississippi River, it is from $10 to $40 per acre ona railroad, and that in Illincis the first two millions of acres belonging to the Illinois Central Railroad Company were sold at an average of $11 per acre, there can be no possible question whatever that the CGovernment can and will be able to disâ€" pose of all and evrery acre of their lands within the Railroad limit in the Fertile Belt at from one to two dollars per acre, and possibly atthe higher rate, and that a large emigration must necessarily flow into our Territory from the United States â€"not it may be of Yankees, but princiâ€" pally of German, British, and other naâ€" tionalities... Nuch an emigration will be of the very best description, as where the different parties own these lands, to that country and the laws there administered they will teel bound to gire their most hearty support, and when they find that MR. MACKENZIE AND THE CANAâ€" PIAN PACIFIC RAILWAY, Again, when it is remembered that the Government price will be from one to two dollars per acre, and that the price in Minnesota, at present, tor good i. the Territories there are comparatively no taxes, whilst in the United States they are well nigh taxed to death, it is to be presumed that emigrants settling on our lands will be far more contented and happy than they could ever possibly be on any lands in the United States. Another statement make by Mr. Mac. kenzie on Friday last was, that if we grant 50 millions of acres to a company to build this road, it will nearly absorb the whole of the avrailable lands in the Northâ€"West. Let us see whether such a statement ‘be true or not. First, the line is stated to be 2,500 to 2,700 miles, and 50 millions of acres is to be granted to a company. From the Lake of the Woods to the Pass, inâ€" cluding the branch from Fort Garry to Pembina, would be 1,000 miles. That would be about twoâ€"fiiths of the whole line of roadâ€"therefore, twoâ€"fifths of 50 millions would be 20 millions of acres, and with the Government amount of 20 milâ€" lions to defray the money subsidy, would make 40 millions of acres * Nr. Mackenzsie may possibly be right when he states that the amount of good available land in the Fertile Belt (i#f he means prairie land)] is 65 millions of acres ; but that does not in any wise include all the available land in such territory. Mr. A. J. Russell, in his work on the Ked Kiver country, Hudson Bay, and North NEW ADVERTISEMENTS. Raditord‘s. 1 TUESDAY®, APRIL30, 1872 ~ttaloa Cimes ip,.m. «rises from ino w® UNET _ CT.~ original forest on such portion \has been _ | destroyed by fire, but the remainder of Mr. Russell‘s estimated amount is of . | equal if not superior value, to that which is prairie, from the fact that the sun for 'lq-hnflb‘u able to penetrate the : | depths of the forest, and so destroy or . | extraet the requisite saits of the earth neâ€" West territories, states, that the available land â€" suitable . for cultivation, _ east of the Rocky Mountains, amounts to 500,000 square miles, Or 320 millions of acres. ‘The reason that the Fertile Belt is en-rytotfl‘ of grain and mwm the Fertile Belt be the large prairie, yet the rest of the territory is interspersed with smaller ones, and is what may ‘be termed prairie and wooded lands of equal, if not supsrior qunq,tomdthl'cfibm‘l\onh another thing which shows the enormous amount of available farming lands in that dhu-ict,andithfllh,m for 700 miles in a line north and south and 1,000 east and west it is a climate and district in which wheat can be successfully grown. The amount of acres included in such an area is 428 millions, but this includes the small portion of bad lands on the southern â€" boundary, as also the the public will be able to judge for themselves how far Mr. Mackensie‘s statement is correct. Jt may be that his object is to mislead his friends in the House, but our duty is to lay bare the facts, and show to the country at large firstâ€"that "the Government know what they are about in passing their resoluâ€" tions ; secondâ€"that they have provided for the country ample security ; thirdâ€" that there is every reasonable probability that they will have sufficient funds in hand from the sale of the lands to meet any demand upon them for or on account of the Railroad before any shall be made, an i fourth~â€"that whilst the Government only proposed to actually give 20 millions of acres in the fertile belt to the Company, and reserve 20 millions to provide for the bonus in money, making altogether 40 millions of acres, instead of their only having lefi as stated by Mr. Mackenzie 35,0090,000 of acres, they will have 280,000,â€" 000. Surely these facts must convince any reasonable and unprejudiced person of the wisdom and prudence of the Dominion Government‘s mode of dealing with this mmportant question. They also serve to show that when the road is built, as it most assuredly will be within the speci« fed time, the names of those who inanâ€" gurated and carried out the scheme will be held in honor, while those who did all they could to defer the construction of this great work and to discourage those who here dispsed to attempt it, will be we take the statement of Mr. Mackenzie, of 65 millions of available land, and place it beside Mr. Russell‘s calculation of 320 millions, as that of the extent of teérritory suitable for the production of grain, utterly unworthy of public confidence. Having, in order to get thei: followers last session to rote for fi.fi declared nwnflbondyb pledge ith the people of British Columbiait need{ful, the Government have to all apâ€" To the credit of human nature we are bound to admit that it is not a style of journalism in which many people would care to distinguish themselres, but as a specimen of gross misrepresentation and unblushing effrontery, we have seldom, if ever, seen anything to approach it. pearances made little since last faith of the country is involved in the matter, and it behoves Parliament to take mt:flt loov:‘o“h ::.M the power of trifling so an interest, and in the end causing the work to be as costly to Canaca as its delay and blunders will be rexatious and injurious both to North West.â€"Toronto CGlobe. Railway as they have done. The ll’ah most disposed to be juh-dmyfi less delay, we know, as a matter of f coincide in this opinion. _ | But for the Globe, the leading o of the party which sought to defer the + ing of the road, now to have the uâ€" dence to warn Parliament to guard * delays‘‘ is certainly rich. Although Globe and Mr. Mackenne knew Watoonldombodthlyd«:‘?od without the Pacific Railway, they all they could to prevent the present initiation of the work. And now, becausé they find that public opinion is everywhere against them, they try to make people beliere that they never apposed it! The Grit the people of British Columbia if needâ€" ful ;*"‘* secondly, so far as the question of progress is concerned, the opinion everyâ€" where prevails that the Government hare In the first place it is <utterly untrue to assert _ that the Government 4 declared their _ readiness that they mnever opposed ii! ine U leaders must have taken lessons in bras effrontery from the immortal Pecksn birgself. Young & Radford‘s Window will contain all the Latest Styles of Jewellery suitable for the Comâ€" ing Ball. 3 To the Editor of TRE TIMES. > Pear Sirâ€"I noticed in your paper of the 3rd inst. an editorial headed © North Renfrew," referring to Sir Francis Hincks‘ prospects of being reâ€"elected for the conâ€" stituency he now so ably represents. I believe you are strictly correct in staâ€" ting that you are acquainted with the poâ€" sition of political affairs in this Riding. That Sir Francis will be returned again there is not the sh«dow of a deubt, and should he be opposel his majority will surprise some of the Grit factionists. Findlay has engrged a fow blustering men that have gone through the country with requisitions and obtained signatures in most cases by misrepre:entation. Many have signed on condition that Sir Francis Hincks would not be a candidate, others have been bored so much that they have allowed their names to be put down, but say they will do as they please when the time comes. The electors of North Renâ€" froew are not simpletons, they are true to Sir John A. Macdonald‘s Governmentâ€" When Findlay opposed the Finance Minâ€" ister he took advantage of the indignation there then felt by. the people towards We desire to express our sincere adâ€" COOL NORTH REXFREW. their late member, Mr. Runkin, for re> signing hig seat so hastily without havring first consulited more of the leading men â€" who elected _ him. Be sides Findlay pledged himself{ to A. Fraser, Esq., and other leading Conservaâ€" tives to support the John A. Macdonald Gorvernment in all god measures. At that gime the men of orth Renfrew. were '&nfll_ wratively â€" unacquainted with â€" Sir Francis, but since â€" his election they have had a better opportunity of knowâ€" ing him, and now feel honoured in having such a representative who is generally ac â€" knowledged to be a statesmen of the first rank, and who is also considered such a success as a Finance Minister. The clear foresight of Sir John A Macdonald has been fully demonstrated in securing the services of Nir Francis as a member of his Gorernmentâ€"it is only one instance of the many good acts of the head of the Dominion Government, it reâ€" znim only & little time to show that he not make any blunders. As 1 said beâ€" fore Sir Francis Hincks‘ election is perâ€" fectly safe with the luTortof such men as A. Fraser, Esq., C. O Kelly, Esq., Peter White, Eeq., the Messrs. Supple‘s, Messrs. T. & W. Murray, Messrs. 0'm-n, Messrs. R & J. White, Messrs Cunningham‘s and some of the Messrs. Bell‘s. Deacon, if he is a Conservative, as ho always professed to be, cannot now, with any show of consistency, support Findlay since he (Findlay) has come out in his true colours, an out and out Grit. The SPEAKER took the chairsat eight o‘clock. Dominion Parlianment. For Fans and Boqlt:et Holders, for the British Columbia Ball, go to Young & Radford‘s, on Standing Orders and Private Bil‘s, reported favorably on the following petiâ€" tions : Of the Honorable L. H. Holton, and others ; praying to be incorporated for the purpose of constructing .a Railway through the southern frontier of the Proâ€" vince of Quebec, between the Rirer St, Lawrence and the River Richelieun. Of Geo. H. Wilkes, and others ; prayâ€" ing to be Incorporated as a Com| pavlc'yfor the nrpou of constracting Water Works on improved plan of the patent obâ€" tained by Charles H. Waterous, of the tained by Charlie: Town otf gnnt.load _ Of the Managers of the Ministers‘ Wi« dows and Orphans Fund, of the Synod of the Presbyterian Church of Canada, in eonnection with the Church of iHcotland, mm amendments to their 3 i. f mc.armM of St. John, in reference tooorhiqdobontum. NOTICES OF MOTION. Hon. Mr. KAULBACK gare notice of motion with n?oot to the lighthouse off St. Margaret‘s Bay. _ _ . PIFT H SESSION: FIRST PABLIAMENT . hk THE SENATE. _ Hon. Mr. MACFARLANE gave notice with respect to the report of geological survey. On motion of Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL, fiollnfiontbflo:oowonmn;nm to stamps was A reference to larceny ps Also a bill to correst a clerical error in the law respecting malicious injuries to On motion of Hon. Mr. SANBORN, the report of the Joint Committee on Printâ€" ing wfle deferred until Thursday, Mr. Daw son having written to the Committee since ROUTINE PROCEEDIKGS, A number of petitions were received, among which were: ‘l\o.:on. JOHN YTOUNG,:( the Euroâ€" pean American Telegraph Company, munmawuw’. D. L. Macpherson and others, praying for an Act of Incorporation for the Interâ€" is m * * V.. s _ :s The SPEAKER took the Chair at 3 and reportars were admitted at 4 p.m the Report was first submitted. A messige was receiyed from His Excelâ€" hpqtbo&nnotecunlvitb certain papers in reference to the Washington The petition of the Toronto Roard of Trade, praying for the abohtion of stamps upon promissory notes, The petition of the Board of Trade of Toronto, praying for the repeal of the Insolvency Act. . inaa "meaal â€" Aed en Bartion fi. ts Siatrend in ot should m’i'. repealed., _ _ lne o Feniin business. * Hon. Mr. GRAY moved for leave to inâ€" troduce a Bill to incorporate the Thunder ""hr HARKISUR move . HARRLSUN moved to introduce & Bill to amend the Insolvent Act of 1869. Mr. MERRITT moved for a Bill to inâ€" cerporate the St. Catherines Board of Trade.â€"Referred to the Committee on Private Bill. J s A message was received from His Exâ€" cellency, submitting the correspondence Mmtholnpdflwm the Governments of Newfoundland and Nonsaodq:l:finwmmwmg- tomk Trasty epacial fsheri ehunoint‘n’l‘mty. - Hon. Mr. MALKENZLE inquired conâ€" serning Lord Nenterden‘s account of the the Imperial system, at present in force in venient to trade, owing to the adoption of the Canadian tarift? Hon. Mr. MORRIS: It is not tha intenâ€" tion of the Government to do so at preâ€" sent. * Mr. DELORME, (Provencher), â€"Whether "he haikirents 106 grable of had o. ts proâ€" vided by the lnitofl.nt;wh_- and how distribution of such lands will be made ; whether the reserves designated in an official document dated at Ottaws, 23rd May, 1870, will be respected? _ _ _ _ way Company. ‘.r. WALLACE (Vancouver‘s Island)],â€" W hether it is the intention of the Governâ€" met to extend the Dominion m Weights and Measures to British Columbis building of light houses, and the placing of buoys, pronounced indispensible to the navigation of the river Richelieu, between the town of St. John and the frontier, as a consequence of the visit and examinaâ€" nmhqu !‘i.“ summer autumn, Trinity House and the Deputy Minister umm Fisheries ? Hon. Dr. TUPPKRâ€"Provisions has been made in the estimates for this service. Mr. BEATYâ€"Whether Detective O‘ Neil olfiht?olmmh in the employ and pay of the Government ? _ , Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALDâ€"All the papers relative hthnot;j.otwillbo brought down in the course of a few days, and will rkfot themselves. Mr. BOU RASSA,â€"W hether it is the in â€" tention of the Government to include in the estimates a sum to provide for the Westmeath, April 8th, 1872 Hon, Mr. HAZEN, from the Committee The House then adjourned. THE OTTAW A caME®, APR J L HOUSE OF COMMONs. PRINTING REPORT. . HOWE submitted a report of sdings of the Indian Oomr- Moxnar, 29th April, 1872, Ortawa, April 29th, 1872 PETITION® ME®BAGE Yours, &¢, § ReuniasLs. Hon. Mr. POPEâ€"As Captain Madden after a sojourn of some months, in this country, was returning to Ireland, he (Mr. Pope) had availed himself of his services uo%myruion Agent. INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY. Mr. JONES (Lecds and Grenville»â€" Before puuinof hisg motion would ask when the report of the" Commissioners would Hon. sir JOHN A. IACDOZ(%C..-. tiinly not in the employ of the inion Government. be brought before the House. He had seen a report in the newspapers purportâ€" ing to come from the Commissioners, but it did not eontain the information bhe deâ€" Hou. xl:&uetnx sail that the reâ€" port was on tke table the other day, and he supposed it had gone to the Print. ing Committee. if on examination the honourable gentleman found it did not contain the particulars he required, he could then make his motion, .or if he wished he covld mike it now. : Mr. JONES thereupon moved for a statement of costs and charges connected with the survey and management of the Intercolonial Railway, and said that some members of the House had &lzufionod him as to what he meant by «* Com missariat Department.‘ He referred to the last report of the Commissioners, which gave a statement of salaries, &c , paid on account of Commissariat Nervice at Qttawa, and thought the Commissionâ€" ers should explain, c z_ SCHOOL ACTâ€"NEW BRUNSWICK LEGISâ€" LATURE. _ . Mr. RENAUD in moving for an "address for the correspondence felative to the School Act passed by the Legislature of New Brunswick comghlnod of the tyranny and injustice of the New Brunswick Sshool Law towards Roman Catholics in that Province. Hon. Mr. ANGLIN complained very monfly of the in,'gut*workmg of the pre:â€" sent law in New Brunswick as compared with the Act repealed. He said that when the Act now in operation was before the New Brunswick ‘Assembly, the Roman Catholics petitioned that it should at ali events give them rights similir to those enjoyed b{ the Protestant minority in Qnobo:‘: ut they petitioned in vain,â€" and only result was that the Act â€" was â€" made to press more for a return of the number of ’plou:hc enâ€" tered at the Port of G:::rh. He desired the information as he been informed that some ploughs had been entered free of duty ? f Â¥ Hon. Mr. TILLEY said the information would be furnished. ers should ‘:;Emn. 4 Mr, WA explained that in the early â€" progress of the work it hai been necessary to provideâ€" provisions for the staff on the lize, and the in Pafmatters 20 been sppolated m y. . Paymasters h appoi who purchased the supplies and paid the salâ€" aries, but they were not stationed at (Uttawa as the honorable gentleman sup posed, they were nt;gon the work paying the men and purchising the supplies since the beginning of Intmr,hom that portion of the service been disâ€" continued. As the work had progressed,the stafft had been able to get provisions for themselves and their salaries had been reâ€" arranged. ‘There was now no commissaâ€" riat. He would take the opportunity of saying that the return about the Miramiâ€" ch } ridge would, he thought, be ready to be l:rmll%‘dhs‘s down to m&r.r'ow . (Centre hnf\on ) moved for a return of the number of ploughs enâ€" buxyupon them than it was first inâ€" to do, ‘The Cathelics there still believed that they had a remedy in sfi mmmmma e that the present Act was uncon stitutional, as it took away rights which were enjoyed b{ the Catholics under the previous Echool Law,â€"which had no proâ€" vision that the schools should be nonâ€"secâ€" hrhr&.bnt. on the contrary, provided that ofldnnuhonld be taught the principles of christianity,morality and jusâ€" tice. He then entered inio an explanaâ€" tion of the working of the old Act under which Counties were divided into parishes which elected three Trustees who, under the Education Board, :Romted Teachâ€" ers, who were paid by Province,â€"so that in Catholic Districts ; Catholic teachâ€" mnndmmmfl ren taught the ion, not only orally, bu: by Catholis text books, and maintained that under the present .fi.' tem all â€" this m“rodbh. e saxd â€"â€" that â€" the law â€" not being applicable to large towns ?"" puu-&dhilmhtnwofor uce tion in the p‘:.i‘ were unom e PeZ, tw Sfi ‘tniation oee that under Confederation which professed leopt lew night ast 10. be attoned ap t law remain in force. He maintained that the law when referred to the Dominion Gov, ernment ought not to have been treated as a legal question only, but as one of pofiz'ud' justice. He complammed that the Catholics had petitioned the Dominion Gorernment most mmdnlly. foel.lfi deeply the wrong they sustained, it was not for months that they received any answer, when they were informed that the law was to gointo force. He said that the Local Governments were quite :ent to decide as to whether their mfion was constitutional, and it would be mm thit question alone to the Government. When Lt.b:‘:umohow&thuthvotmldm isallowed, Local Legislatyre mn&oitofiflmh&lmhbmd _‘:l to the Catholi e regulations framed under it There could be no doubt of the soundness of the policy of notinwfu-i:fwiththloallfinw where it could be avoided, but was a ease in which the greatest excitement and throughout the whole Province, and . he could imagine no good or soynd reason why the Act was not declared void. The greatest hatred and excitement prevailed at this moment throughout the Provincé, and he appealed to the Roman Catholies of Quebec and throughout the whole Domiunion, not to sit down tamely and see their brethren in New Brunswick outraged, w&«g and depriyed of their just rights Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said Monthopnml&uufionwhnbc the Roman Catholics of New Brunswick should hnn.&p\rm&hool:.l‘lhwd whether they should have a law similar in spirit to that protecting the Roman Catholics of Ontario and the Protestants of Quebes, that House could not decide, and, as a House could hare no voice or opinion. The individual members of the House might haye their individyal views, but the matter was one in which the Hoyse could take no action. Individually he was very muchumwiththohoa.pnm;:o Mjmtnpokn;.nddnringslou’ « liamentary life he had shown himself conâ€" sistently a frend of Separate Schoo}s, and was right glad when the Catholic minority fuiyes a Separete Sqhoot $ i w ves a system. It was known to evrery one that the question of tion at its very inception, and & pnmimmmmwuhh to General Jegislature of the Dominâ€" ion would have been enough to sequre the repudiation of Confederation by the peo. ple of Lower Canada, and it was therefore expressly provided in the Act of Union that the question should be entirely left to the ditferent Provinces with the proâ€" vision that wherever there was a separate system in force that system should not be interfered with, and that any denominaâ€" tion which had secured at the time of the pninma.awhichl?htuny time , by the Act of the Local Legislatures secure auy privilege, that Act of the: Local Legulature, and that if any attempt was made by that Legislature to set aside such privilege it would be privilege Should not be aftected by any f:windto see that this was carried out. the matter of the Bill now in question the sole mwflch_wkdlh the Government was whether to "the British North America Act, 1331," had exceeded its The hon. gentlieman had qompm tha Domin. ion Government to a certain extent on the absence from all interference in the action of the Local Legislatures since Confederation. As the officer Kimuily responsible on such â€" subjects, could only say that he had taken uniform care to interfere in no way whatever with any Act passed b{ any of the Provincial Leâ€" gislatures i s they were . within the scope of their jurisdiction. _ There were only two _ cases in _ his opinion in which the Government of the Dominion w.s justified in advising the disallowance of a Local Actâ€"first, if the Act was unconstitutional, and there had been an excess of jurislictionâ€"and seâ€" the Legislature of New Brunswick cond, if it was injurious to the interests of the whole Dominion. In the case of measures not eoming within either of those categories, the Government would be unwarranted in interfering with local legisistion. In the present case there was not a doubt that t)le New Brunswick Leâ€" gislature had acted within its jurisdiction, and that the Act â€"was constitutionally legal and could not be impugned on that grodnd. It wias a general Common school Act, not applying ~to any school Act, . not ssrlyin‘ to any denomination . or uding to, or affâ€"cting any denomination, and was an amendment of a law of the like general nature for the establishment of common. or parish scheols through the whole of New Brunswick.. Among his clleagues he was â€" happy â€" to . reckon _ men whose . opinions as Slawyers . must be respected, and he ‘also Roman Catholics whose religlous sincerity and: whose ‘desire to protect their religious privileges was beyond a doubt, and his colieagues had been unanimous that there were no grounds to interfere with the Act. As to the second ground which he had mentioned, on which he considered the Dominion Government could interfere, it could not be held that the Act in any wa g:j.udicially affected the whole Dommbl use it was a law seitling a Common School system for the Province of New Brunswick alons, Whether that law was good or bad, whether it was fair or unfair, was & matter for the consideraâ€" tion of the representatives ‘of the Foo%lo of New Brunswick, and he was urther bound to siy, that in his indiâ€" vidual opinion, it was not a wise discretion tc:o'n;giuto against the Act on the E that it repealed an _ Act which authorized a Sâ€"parate School system. The Catholics of New Brunswick ‘ might think that the old Act was less obâ€" jectionable than that now in force, but ; they also ohjoot«l to the old one, and maintained that it was not fair towards them. No separate school system was Â¥rovidod by that Act, and the true course ‘or the New Brunswick Catholics was to ‘@lor the eximple of those in Untririo and fight the matter out in the Local Leâ€" gislature. If the legislation was bad, if it bogore on . them uuj‘ul:tl{, that injustice pressed at the polls woull force the Leâ€" gislature to do justice ‘They h d in his opinion a )uu cause, for it was for the interest of education that if a large body like the Catholics of New Brunswick deâ€" sired a separate school system they should have it, but it could only be obtained by workipg for it.. Animportant body like th.tk holding the. bel:nce . of power in New EBranswick could force upon the Legislature a Separate School system. They might not do it this Session, but they could ufford to wait as the Catholics of ‘Untario waited, and the moment & law was mnnn they were protecte by the provisions of the Confederation Ac and no power of the Local x1iamm could ever dorivo them of it. It would be a wonderful mistake in the Catholics of New Brunswick, and they would be throw ing away their cise if they upheld the Act lately repealed as being sufficient for their purposes, but it was a matter for them to %flltm not for Canads to die, tate what the L#-Ism of New Bruns wick should do. "The Government of the Dominio« could not act, and they would have been guiltly of a viclent wrench of the Constitution if because they might hold a different opinion, they should set up their own . judgment against the solemn decision of a !;:%n in a maiter entirely within the of chat Province. ‘The constitution which had hitherto worked so easily and so well could not survive the wrench that would year year, fi"‘ very mi as the io Aot Erapted mo Sepmrate Schools as the: no to the C.ubofi:,.‘::d no special rights he believed the passing of the present Act would tend to set the matter right, for if the Catholics mbdnnd vered, bearing in mind -qu;mhmu;h which the Ontazio Catholiss had and if they went to work Y, &o: fanatically, but justly, they would ob the same right of Beparate HSchools that had been .granted in Ontario. Let the Catholics of New Brunswick use the arguâ€" ment, how in Quebec the great myjority of Catholios had treated the Protestants with such liberality and generosity, and let them persevere and they would not fiil to obtain their just rights. > be given it the l::.mmto- Government assumed to Midtate or guestion the action of ‘"the hfl&ffiodfl- e D. N: 4. 4e “...T.':'.’”m.n.m" n ietenge. _ . N. A. Act to 1 Hon. SrGEO. E. CAR said his coâ€" nhfini-fi in New Brunswick would not doubt his sincerity in upholding their inâ€" terests. The only cnestion which the Dominion Government nad to decide was whether the Act interlerred with rights pre viously enjoyed by Catholies in Now Bruns noe, (P piatber ol hi pafor qo ‘:.U'n gfLLE%‘b%Em .f;,d it was understood w be Aaot q ederation was passed that the rights bf nilnorities jn the matter ouf” education wo:fld ‘:: preseryed ; but by ] + ! * ] Unll ll‘llll‘u" ’o' ::.:1 t ::c:% Pmdltw os (.}.-dhlh, agains ‘wfld ::onlbd. H t t 4 e characterized the proceedings ef the Local Legislature as an outrage to his coâ€" religionists, and he would earnestly oppose them. Jn fl:boc there was liberality toâ€" wards the Protestant poiummity. and he insisted u & 1 l“l'lh‘ wm4. RomnCo‘:I:liah;”Bmmhi. Uaoder the old law the parishioners had the right tol‘-:sto wh::dmt of education they might have erred u their fim"l but now they were wboK;n“ the merey 0 the Protestant School Commissioners. Roman Catholic rights in New Brunswick, cmo themselves somewhat mrmtially about the people‘s rights in itoba. 'rnu.zh&l‘}ow mipority in ::ow Bmuwickmt an nfim a ;-I.{hw. N’: bo{u- 1y ”flm. they had rights which they would not readj}y gast aside. They had, or rather were entitled to privileges wln;.h no Governâ€" It being Olfh' the Hquse than rose. The debate on the motion of Mr. BomdAhrmondrnhfinnot:o‘ School Act passed by Legislature New Brunswick, was resumed. â€" Mr. BELLEROSE maintained that thera was a great difference in the position of the minority in New Brunwwick, as comâ€" pared with that in Ontario.â€" In the latter they had the support of the members oo on tesage amimme were at mercy majority. He approved the liberality of the Conâ€" federation Act in securing to the minority in Quebec their rights, but demanded if these had not beenalso secured to the minority in New Brunswick, _ _ . . _ ;fi;"&" h ue CABTIER said that ileprovisions had been made in Ontario no in New Brunswick. During the dissussion no suggestion had been made as to the rights of Roman Catholics. .‘The R.C. Bwhop of New Brunswick had written AFTER RECESS, 18 7 2 : letters in favor of Confederation, but in no case was there a provision made for gruucfiou to the Roman Catholics of New runswick. He contended that thera should be exactly the same privileges granted to Roman Catholics in New Brunsâ€" wick as there were in the Province of Quebec. â€" m lt st ' > Hon. Mr. GRAY wished to tzrroct A statement made bo the member for Layal, that the Roman Catholics of New . Brunsâ€" wick had been deceived by that which took place at the conferemce at Quebec teing changed by the proceedin, fl at Westminster. The practice of the Legisâ€" lature of New Brunswick had been to give, by an annual vote, a certain subsidy â€" to each |denominational school, ‘but there was no law by which that grant was susâ€" tined, and iun"nn;)t "l;m;umbons on the islature to give it. policy adopted at S:beo m‘!oonflnd to the two Pro. ;fi'ncuwbero such a law did exist, b“un.‘; estminster it was proposed to ex the same provision to%cw!mmfiok and Nova Scotia, as Untario and Quebec. As a representative of the Province of New Brunswick he declinei to enter into the propriety of that Province legislating on the subject under disoussion, which he considered was a matter exclusively for Local Legislation.: The Roman Catholics of that Province were a large and influenâ€" tial body, and it was quite in the Ewor of the Province to legisiate as the interests of her llr;o le ng}m demand. â€" . Mr. EELE »E said that the words ‘*have by law‘"‘ had been added at Westâ€" minster, and it was to those words that be to k objection.= .. ... â€": â€" .. 1 . _ Mr. COS1IGAN said thit the member for Gloucester (Mr. Auglin) had in his opinion honestly, fairly, and independentâ€" ly. represented the views of the Roman CGatholics of New Brunswick, ‘and he thcught he might als> say of a very large port:. n of the Protestants. It was unforâ€" tunate when questions came before Parâ€" liament which provoked religious disousâ€" sions, but this question did not necessarily do so.. (It was not a question of the Catholics trying to overcome the, Protes tant influence, it was simply a right that they felt entitled to that they ‘tried to protect. It was a right that they had long enjoyed and felt grieved that it was taken from them. If their wishes had bsen carried out it would not have aftected the Protestants in any way. As to the conâ€" stitutionality of the measure, there was but one feeling throughout | the | Pr»vine _ and _ that _ was that the act of the Local Legislature was in direct violation of the Constitution. It had been siid that there was no law in: New Brunswick by which separate sch ols were in existence. He contended that such laws had existed, under which Cathâ€" olic schools were established and mainâ€" tained by annual vote of the Legislature, and similar 5“"“ were voted for schools of all other denominations. :« Under these laws Catholics were in a position to estabâ€" lish schools and employ Catholic â€" teachers and could call upon the Goyernment to pey their teachers out of the public funds,‘ and that right would now exist but for the measure complained of.© Hecould not unâ€" derstand how the argument could be used that they enjoyed no privile, by law in _ that _ country. ofiu was true there was no law suth as l.bmnin Onâ€" tario and Quebec, specially providing for sactarian schools, but he contended that usder the law. they had Catholic and French schools which were kept .up at the expense of the country.: ‘The objec.ion taken by the honourable member for Laval he understood to be that while in the Quebec resolutions the rights of Caâ€" tholies &' m:nd different P:;)vino;:l we.n; guaranteed, (and it was not then believ that these MW exist by virtue of any law) the utions as albterod at Wutmimurdrovidod that where separate schools existed by law at the union their rights should not be affected, As: it was now centended that there was no law reâ€" ooyin( Catholic schools in New Bruns: wi it _would . almost _ seem ““n?o.""'a..;“:fl M.fl..:":...‘"m & t gl ew Brunswick. 1t had been said by the Minister of Justice that the Catho lics of New Brunswick must from the posiâ€" tionthyooonp&in that Province, be able to exercise suftisient influence on the legislation ‘of the country to secure a Separate School law, and he had cited theâ€" sucsess of the Catholics in Ontario, But it must be remembgred that the minority in U Canada had the influence of 60 or CJ Catholics from Lower Canada to assist tham. ‘The Catholics of New Brunsâ€" wick were not in such a position. :‘ _ _ rect, but the difference was not so grést as in New Brunswick, and they exercised Hon. Sir GEORGE E, CAR11ER.â€"The honourable gentleman will recollect that the Catholics were in a minority in the Parliament of Canads. { Mr. COSTIGaNâ€"Nodoubt that . was corâ€" more inflgence in the Canadian Parlia ment than the Catholics of New Brunsâ€" wiokan_nxlfoctto exercise in their Leâ€" gislaturs. o‘fglt.firoodwm that spirit of liberality and fair play wli.oh ‘the Caâ€" TY an" 3 t nority in Province. mug?!"l_mm@ action of the Legislature of New Brunswick was not in the interests of the country, 1t had already intertered with immiigration and had been the cause of driving from his had been the cause of dnm irom Dis ton ‘of the oou:g settlers from the Inited btates bxhh‘d‘)( Quebec. 'g thoa? was any possibility disallowing the law ° jit should not in the inâ€" terests of the Province have been allowed to exist.:; Before sitting ~down he telt it bis duty to express on behalf of the Oaâ€" tholics of New Brunswick as well as himâ€" self his gratification at the sympathy, aid and encouragement they had received in the defence of their rights from liberalâ€" minded Protestants in the Province. (Apâ€" pll"ng.)"_ urmnrÂ¥ee.: ccnt mar uA4ek Hh e * Hon. Mr. ANGLIN saijd uut‘:blt the Catholics had heked‘ for ‘was, that if the system of direct taxation was adopted, they should have the same rights that Protestants had in Quebec. In applying to the Dominion Government, théy conâ€" sidered that as they were being deprived ofrifiu which they h .& enjoyed under the old law, that Government might well interfore. He feared the Minister of Juâ€" tice and the Minister of Militia were mis :gn in saying that the Catholics were m‘guoo'oed‘ if ‘they perseyergd ; but they would never ”flm the figh however desperate the fight might be, _ ~ Mr. PICKARD was entirely opposed to denomination grants, and was sorry to hear the Minister of Justice advise that the matter should be taken to the polis, for it only caused ill feeling and hatred. He maintained that education ull:onki ‘I-n carried st present into the mfiymflo tBon ht that if the whole people joined wffiz wmm the spirit of the law, it would be m :ot:lt: thas t‘liu Bnnu u‘t opposition and ostility ; and that onruhllpod would i& effected ty non denominational schools.. The matter ought to have been left to New Brunswick, and not câ€"‘rried _ Mr. COSTIGAN desired to repeat thit in a mjxzed population schools might be sustained acceptable to al} parties, but that where the populition was entu-eg Catholic, they‘ ought to hare a Catho Mr. JOLY said the Province of Quebec M en ebni‘e eont ies Tesn pd, w he hoped would ’toomd in gb' he hoped would be followed ig '] Brunswigk. If it were possible to havé ; mohs.nyfitom B:fu:::‘ogon as that ] posed in New ‘k, a system all parties could be educated together | it ‘ would be the best system possible. t 1 this was utterly impossible. . Poor | struggling for their living, had not much | time to devote to eduation, fimi, it ought to be endeavored to gire them as much education as possible.. As & Proâ€" testant he thought it his duty 10 help Catholics to have schools of their own as : Protestants had. ‘The motion was then carried. mua.mx.s moved .“n-olufion M:. resent mode of constituting Senate Lâ€"in.t with the Fede:â€"l principle of Government. He said that if the question of s nominated (Ch«anâ€" ber had been submitted to the SENATE 1 mss country at the time of Confederation, they | ment of the day, to sit down with him anq would have decided against it. It was | select the iwentyâ€"four men for the Senay -imptlf & step in the direction of the Engâ€" ! He [sir John] wrote a name, M lish House of Lords, and maintained that ‘from â€" his own pirty, and they such a House was altogether unsuited to ‘ selected their man, and <(he consequence the circumstances of Canada. In England was, 12 Reformers and 12 ( JNservatives the preers gained great experience in the were elected to sit in thit Chamber, anf Lower House, and by their action there | no one knew better thain s hon. frieng ined the confidence of the c>untry. | that it was a fair un lerstanding that the fi‘ey represented a <great power in the ‘clains of members ol the legislativg country there. ‘They possessed power Council of old Canida to sei:s in the Se. which was not conferred on the Senate | nate should be considered As vamanmu." Mr. ROSS (Victoria) complained that such matters ld be allowed to occupy the time of the House. Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said he always listened whith pleisure to the remarks of the member }:)r Bothwell, but in this instance he would have preferred that his speech had been presented as an essay or review in one of the periodicals of the day. The hon. member, howeyer, had not exhausted the subject, and he would suggest therefore that he should elaborate his ad.:irecs and give it to thein in a paper which could be read quietly in leisure time. Mr. MILLS â€"Will you act on it ? Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said he would act on it if he agreed with his bon. triend. The hon. member had said however that the English constitution was a matter of slow development, and was only _ . altered when expedience showed that some portion of that constitution acted prejudicially to the public interest. Then Canada might _ take â€" an example from that. _ Her constitution was one ur. der which the country was well governed, and prosperous, and against which there was no complaint. No evil as yet had arisen from the constitution of either ch«amber, or the balance of power between the Execntivye «nd the Lefil:lnive. W hy ‘then not follow the example of England, and work â€"the system so long as no evil resulted. If it should be found that the Upper Chamber was obstructive and that a change was absolutely required for the well working of the Commonwealth, it Wwould then ve open to move the resoluâ€" tion, but at present he thought the House would certainly vote it down. C Hon. Mr: HOWE said that the second Chamber h;d always been nominated in all the H‘provinces, and he asked whether the Senate was not a body of intelligent and honorable men, discharging their duties in an efficient and proper manner. Ko harm had yet resulted, and it was cerâ€" tainly unn::euuy to h:‘u & clnns. co‘l:o reagon of t reater influence of t » mons was tbac‘i?:iu}t with all money matâ€" | similar body in the world. When the | hon. gentlam n had used such |inguage | as that, an outrage had been 0 mmiz‘=", | he must have been ignorant of the force . and value of language, and he challenged | the hon gentleman to mention one inâ€" ’otmco .n which ihere hai beén any imâ€" | proper appointment. With regard to the Frovincés of Upper Canada, . and Lower Canad1i, â€"a full selecâ€" tion was made without reference to golifi. cal principles. in the Province of Upper Canada a fair arrangement was made beâ€" tween himselfand the Hon. George Brown, then and now, the leader of the m.:l which the hon. gentlieman (Mr. * zie) is a member, and aithough Mr. Brown retired from the Government belore the | selection was made, he (Sir John) felt that still the arrangement made was obliga« snn‘ anid ho anload ‘his . houk. friend from Hon. Mr. BLAKE said the Minister of Justice seemed to admit that the time might come when it would be for the good of the Commonwealth to abolish the Upper Chamber. He did not think such an observation was proper to be made. He believyed that the rmunooof an Upâ€" per Chamber properly constituted was essential, At present, however, there was the form without the substance, for no one could deny that howeyer respectable the Upper Chamber might be, its delibeâ€" rations and actions had not that influence throu,hout the country which had been expected of it, and which they ought to have. Selections were made from time to time by Government, and therefore at no distant futyre it myst be expected that they would be a ‘purely nominational body, in no way représentative, and the results spoken of by the member for Bothwoll might then ensue. If the Sena tors werq eljected, the federal system would come more | thorougbiy into play and a seat in the Senate would become an object of ambition to a much greater extent than at present, and he did not doubt that the time was not far distant when such a change would _ Hon. Mr. MACK ENZIE said that in the dow Contederat.on he had l:t-fmu&z su a nomination princi or Spper Chamber, pmum?n( tfin every overnment would endeavor to fill the Government would endesvor to fill the :Jn?or House with representative m>»n, he believed that such a plan fairly carried out would be the best. The exâ€" moooo of the past few years, howerer. modified his o&i:d:om, and whether the time tor change yet come or not, he belioved a él;ange to be inevitable tory, and he asked his hbon. irie North Lanark, and the present ant Govermor of Untario,â€"the r tatives of the Reform party in the to get & seat on the Bench, he (Sir Jobn) was erceedingly anriou« to help him, be. cause he was a good lawyer and & goolâ€" â€". man, **4 would be ca credit to the Bench, W hen he was offered a seat on the Bench he said he wa exceedingly anxious on his own and family account to take the ai. tuation, but he was in the difficulty the; mmbounes meamber of the ol i Legis. lative C u, who was at all likely to be selected to till the office wis of the Cop. servative stripe, and if he should give up nis seat it would be said tnat he had done so in order to allow him (sir John) to ap. point a Tory, when he (Sir John) said r. would have no objection to natming a Re. former, and asked if the Hon. Frank Smith of Toronto, would satisfy that category, and n~ one knew bep. ter than his honorable friend from Lambton that the Hon. Frank Smith was a Reformer. He was glad to have the op. portunity of oftering that genlieman a sest in the Senate as siso of paying a compli« men: to the Irish Catholics 0%f Ontario by placing aman of their class in the Nenate, and he did not think the hon. member for Lambton would say that the appoint. ment had at all damaged the dignity, use. fulness or standing of th :t assembly, Hon. Sir FRANCIS HINCKS hid not intended to address the House on.this subject, but allusion hai b>en made to him, both by the hon. gentieman who proposed the resolution, and the hog mamber for Lambton. The hon. gentlemspn had said that he had =ean occasion o modify his opinions on this matter, aud be (sir F. Hincks) might ialso tind occasi m to modify his views,. He had referred to 4 Government of which be (sir Francis) was a member, bringing forward a to make the Legislative Council glectinve. 1t is perfectly well known thuat of a Government son e :imes have to give way their own opimons in order to carry on that Government. At the time the (Giovernment of which he was a member was formed, it was essentially necessary to the success of that Guvernment r he should support the gentleman who especially enjoyed the contfidence of the people of Lower Canadaâ€"he referred to the late Judge Moranâ€"who enjoyed the respect of every one who knew him. There was a very .mi feeling in Lower Canada in fayor of an elecuve Legisia.ivs Council. Mr. Aoran insisted that the principle of an elective Legislative Lounal should be adopted, and it was with the greatest reluctance thit be (Nir Franois Hinck) gave way on that point Afis old triend, Mr. Balawin had op, osed the prinâ€" ciple of an elective Legislative Councll He (Sir F.) had not so strong «n opinion, ’ and as other matters: of importance Was carried out, and concessions made to the Reformers of Upper Canada, at that tme, it was considered that the masâ€" sure for an elective Legislative Counad should be brought forward. ~He had always thought that there was great dan ger of collisin where there were wm uve bodips. He hoped the hon. man w'?nul;.i. withdraw his mou:m..‘I dt:! : glad of thi portunity to ex action with .ogovernmnt of which he w a 1@ member, ard which proposed to make the Legislative Council \Elective. that time he yielded his own,o4.jntons reluctance, to op:wions which 3 entertained by all his collesgues from ~Lower Canada, 5 Mr. JONES (Halifax] said that the ap, pointment to the Senite, from the Pro. vince of Nova Seotias were created by means which a great m«ority of the peoâ€" ple did not agree to, and but one of those chosen enjoyed the confidence of the people. He held that the Loc:l Legisia, tures of the Provinces are the bootld'. of, and should select those who are to represent them in the Upper House. He reforred to the resolutions of the Maritime Provinces‘ Raepeal Delegation, and thorn of the now Secretary of State for the Provinces took therein. Hon. JOS HOWEâ€"In u&v to the hon. member for Halifax, said t when that old manif.sto was wiitten he believed :;eryu:mdd it, and he :;d opinion at ohrrnumberol representeâ€" tives of the Province of Nova Sooir« chosen at Confederation did not at that time en tertain the opinions of many of the péo~ m. Withxcm to those had influéncte in ap ihg to 1 Benate. The first vacantcy‘was 0 Mr. Wm, St.«irs, brother in law of Mmember for umnrl‘iiu,mof the weathiest most 1 minded Provinge. hflo regrettgd m:htw Stairs had not accepted, as he was man of the Confederate Lesgue, and had the confidence of the people. Mr. Northâ€" rup was next offered a seat in the and declined, but mhfinfllt!y another yacancy. He pré umed that Northrup could have got a sest in NoÂ¥ Sootia, where his father s1t for 00‘1 and his family h:lndfon‘ht mbh liberal opinions responsi rflv ment, of civil and religious liberty in that province, before the member for Halifex was known, or any om':‘uu?oa‘ for momttlmw A be with that of Johf Northrup the e 4er. to lir. Northrup ‘the younger, he n prrenatet on on te) to have * (lm)c'hiohooullnotbemud. and when he was nominated to the Senate he held the metropolitan seat. Next came Mr. McLelian, whose father for twenty years represented a constituency of Nove Scootia, udvocating all improvements and reforms, and when the old man died young McLellian inhsritedjais father‘s sition and part of his Mfi’ His friend had ‘said that he 1d elected for Colouester, whereas, Gu carried Colchester in spite of all bon, Hon. Dr. TUPPER felt it his duty t repel the unjust and unfounded imput+ tions cast by the honorable member ‘fof the County of Halifax upon a body of gentlemen than whom he was bound 40 say their superiors did not sit in branch of ‘this Legisiature. 'lhg gentiem«n had undertaken to gentliemen who were reoo-i~ the Seuate by the Government of Whith bo(Dr.Tuypor)Mthtmbh~ head, obtiised those positions in & l: which they were called. ‘The bonourable member knew that when the leader of the llx‘benloppo-itionht.h mq House in ova Scotia, chring the dGi ewwdeanbef‘ by the two greit parties in old Cansds, joined hinds with him (Dr. Tupper) i8 enieavouring to accomplish the gr64 question of the Union of the P rov incet, ho(Df:. Tuppu)u::opnd :‘lb.-- in reference to the party which were comnected as ‘the first luh:’ the Grown kz4 steed he felt bound id adopt with regard to the great liberal party of Canads. When the Benate W# chosen the first thing done was 10 tender the twelve seats at the dit posal of _ Novsa Sootis 1to . WO * members of the Lezislative Council. He wmu.lukthom.ombaho'hm‘ utter the imputation in this House That be [Dr. Tuppar) carried the union in tve Leg: of Novsa Seotis bf the corrupt means which he had insit usted, while he was abie to rise in his #044 and say that of the two thirds -sz that carried that measure in Nove in the public assembly, not & man WA# offered a seat‘ in the Cenate, untit all the tweive seats had been M. the members of" the Legislative Councll Eigbt were aogepted by those gentiéMs six of these the nomination of the Liberel party.} The hon. gentioman bsf 1 constituency ol Novs all improvements and singjin ftyrge Sr1 18 ® *Te*C rraga Abong(~ 4 ter, roas, 1 inspiud.u‘ui.o .,m,' with which .;uwli_-h:’ »ted he felt bound 44 rd to the great liberal When the Senate W# t thing done was 10 lve seats at the di+ & Bootis to twelte Pointice ow mend . mem on in this House That be wried _ the union . if of Novsa Beotis bf s which he had insitâ€" :.uowrinini--li two thirds J wnhflmfl .mbl],w.-” unSomh,il“ had been tendered 1 the Legislative Councll »d by those gentlemen; | PiexP Eue bestihes sit. M Tt MAOE 5Oy ints in th* “nfl bonog [ :‘.‘:& bis .r:.'.. anotbe P\ i_sdite 1 4 tting ® ‘afl.‘: "@, was anoth® | am memory ‘;â€"“',.n.‘"" for imp3 ‘ 'w Hal #f . C us d PS s was one Of V it was shown P 10L & a" t _‘__'i_" ’.:5-‘ t bepelit of the | these Lbeet se raised while r-n-... wa quile as and his deâ€"ire of talent â€" Stinding ‘widysed t« *, and in 4 ns dkt ‘of hig po® Engiâ€"nd has 800 that 4 W the 1 Wwas d6 . thit on Â¥ove protept yet pl #1 W erent He &8 bhe #@# A¢ D¢ on

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