a en, he ‘declared, claimed the great is- Declares Protective Tariff Not Suitable for Needs of Canzda Today— Contends National-Progressives Offer Best Policies— W. A. Amos Heckled In Attempt to Answer Criticism of Liberal Leader, F. W. Hay of Listowel. Stratford, Nov. 14—It was a cold building and a shivering crowd that greeted 'Hon. T. A. Crerar, leader cf the National, Progressive Party, when he spoke at the Skating Rink Satur- day night in the interests of Mr. W. Amos, Farmer-Labor candidate in North Perth in the coming election. At‘the Meighen and King .meetings, held previously, at the Casino, while there was no heat, there was no dis- comfort, but at Saturday night’s meeting in the bleak skating rink, with a lower temperature and ‘with- out any heat, other than that furnish- ed by two or three oil heaters on the platform, the cold was felt from the beginning and'grew steadily worse. Despite the fact, however, the rink was crowded with people, many standing and the crowd stayed pretty well until after Mr. Crerar had spok- en. A crowd of some four, thousand people turned out to hear the big Westerner enunciate his fiscale polic- ies, the turnout of farmers of the dis- trict and their wives being notice- able. The speakers of the ecvening’ were given a cordial hearing and they evoked considerable applause. The audience was not one given to much enthusiasm, although the coli mays have somewhat dampened the spirits of the crowd in this respect. Both Mr. Amos and Mr. Crerar were heck- led considerably, the former speaker, when he saotope sehen to answer Mr. Hay’s recent charge Hon. Peter Smith, ‘Provinelat Treas- urer and member of the Legislature for South Perth, was chairman of the evening, and besides Mr. Crerar oth- mally and dispassionately on econom- ic and political affairs. The present government had been weighed in the balance and found wanting. “The Government is going to the country with its machinery well oil- ed,” said the speaker, “and who knows what they may yet put out. The tariff issue has been the oes for false slogans, and has ‘been vanced in an effort to saneaie the electorate and to side-trackgthe real issues. Then, there are the usual patriotic appeals. Are we going to ate to such cries forever? Because e dare to criticize the Government. aan we to be branded as apa citizens? I say Jet us not tracked by such appeals. Has the Gov. ernment a monopoly of the patriot- ism of the country? One would think that they alone had political capacity and were skilled in the science of gov- ernment.” The principles of the new politi- cal movement, said the speaker, would make for stability, progress and prosperity 'more than anything else. The clAss plea that had een raised against the armer-Labor group in Ontario had been contradict- ed emphaticaliy in the two years in which the present Government been in power. The results of that government had demonstrated that the province was not on unsafe grounds and that there was no dan- ger of the country “falling to pieces.” The Ontario administration had soon got well into harness, and had shown a marked capacity for serving rank and file of the people of and gountry. “The record of the present Ontariv city er speakers were Mr. Amos, Robe Berry, National Progressive Varty candidate for South Perth, James Simpson, prominent Labor man Toronto, and Mr. J. A. Hookway, La- bor candidate in West Elgin, in the present election. Hon..E. C. Drury, premier of Ontario, was billed to speak, but was unable to be present. Mr. Drury has been speaking in dif- ferent parts of the Province with Mr. Crerar, but had had a strenuous week - d, it is Said, was anxious to rest up e week-end ‘at his home at crow 1. Ran Special Train Several hundred people from the northern part of the county left the building immgdiately after Mr. Crer- ar had finished speaking, in order to catch the special train to Listowel and other points north. It was Mr. Crerar’s first address iu Stratford since 'coming into national prominence, his coming was awaited with interest by many elect- ors of the riding. In the course of his speech he outlined the tariff policies of the new ‘political move- ment which he heads and dealt’ with the chief issues before the country today. In the course of remarks he claimed that Premier Meighen was seeking.'still higher protection, de- clared the protective policy to be un- suitable to C@nadian needs today and contended that the policies of his party offered the maximum amount of good for the people of the Domin- ion. Mr. Crerar’ was subjected to considerable questioning by support- ers of other policies than his own, but he did not appear to be in a frame of mind that welcomed kling, for some of his replies carried shafts of sarcasm. His address throughout, «however, was free from bitterness and unfair attack upon his political opponents. Born at Molesworth , Mr. Crerar came to the city from Guelph, where he had spoken in the afternoon and spent Sunday in the Government,” said the speaker, “has shown that the entrusting of power to untried men possessed of integrity, honesty of purpose and a modicum of ability is not too oil an expedi- ment to try at any tim Money, said Mr. oni had been talking in'Canada for the past two decades. Big interests, heavy capit- alized and deeply entrenched, had been practically dictating the policy of the country. There had been ample evidence of this. An instance was thr fact that 'the Government had some time ago frustrated the placing of cheap sugar on the Canadian market by coming to the rescue of special in- terests and protecting their profits. Was that anything but class ‘domina- tion? Referring to the charges of James Murdock, Liberal candidate in South Toronto, and former member of the Board of Commerce, Mr. Amos declared that so far ‘as he could see Mr. Murdock's biggest ‘‘weakness”’ ad been that he, had asked Mr. Meighen’s consent to his naming cer- tain interests which had profited at the expense of the Canadian ‘people. hy doesn’t he give the names?" asked the speaker. “If he knows, why doesn’t he come out like Mr, Ellard, one of the Progressive candidates, in Quebec,'and give the names of these eh “He " shouted someone in the eedtaces, sae t you read the morn- ng papers. Mr. Amos admitted, in reply, that Mr. Murdock had publicly named cer- tain former Cabinet ministers who according to Mr. Murdock, had sought to block the operations of the Board of Commerce, but declared that he was referring to the interests which Mr. Murdock'‘had been men- tioring, but which he had not yet agdicly named. Mr. Ellard, he add- e7? had fearlessly named the Riordon ip and paper interests as receiving sctal favors from the Government. ihe speaker claimed to see city, the guest of’his cousin, Mr. John C. Stewart, 558 Huron street. After; resting up over the week-end, he left | the city at eight o'clock this morning | _ and speaks this afternoon at Dunr- ly ville‘and tonight at Brantford. Mr. Crerar, who was neer Moles- worth, in the adioirine eountv of Huron, has several! re'a‘ives in Strat- ford and Perth cen ty ard met mapv of these, tovether "th anmerens eld} friends, at t of the meetinys and on Sunday. Cpons Mee*ing. ' Hop. Pete Smith.“ opening t'e! meeting, declared that te large ar-! tendance showed that the peur. were taking a very great interest i the affairs of the country. He wus sure that Stratford welcomed Hon Mr. Crerar, leader of the National Progressive Party. He declared that Toronto, on the previous night, had given Mr. Crerar- the best reception yet accorded any of the three political leaders, and referred to the'fact that it had been decided at that meeting to nominate three Progressive candi- dates in the city of Toronto. In introducing Mr. Berry,’ Nationa! Progressive candidate in South Perth. Mr. Smith declared that Mr. Berry was contesting the best rural riding e ola in Ontario, and predicted that he “The acting leader of ‘the Liberal would have a'majority “nearly as] party in Ontario,” said the speaker. large as mine.” Mr. Berry was aj ‘has made statements that I re- former warden of the county, and}! ceived over $6,000 for my services nothing was known to his discredit. til the afternoon of the meeting that he was on the program at all and also pleaded a cold. He referred to Mr. Crerar as the coming prime Minister of Canada, a statement that evoked some cheers, and then’ took his seat. Mr. Amos W. A. Amos, Labor- Farmer vandiaats in North Perth, declared that the National Progressive move- ment was one that was’ making tre mendous strides. The ald line poli- ~tical parties bad ceased to ridicule it, and, instead, were becoming alarm- ed over its growth. Premier Meigh- sue before the gd was the tariff, but it was a fact that not for ten ‘years nee the poopie | had an oppor- tunity of expressing themselves nor- % ° of the splendid band that is rallying lack of effort. I am prepared to yield to the voice of the people. Your suf- frage is your own business, but if you are interested in the welfare of the common people, I feel justified in asking your support. Mr. Amos declared that “trivial and low’ charges had been brought against both him personally and the; Drury Government in connection with the Hydro Radial inquiry on the Sutherland Mr. Berry said he did not know un-; sion.” one in the audience, who apparently took issue with Mr. nature of Mr. Hay’s charge that Mr. Hay had made the remark, or, at least, had been so reported, but the interruptions continued. were cries, “Sit down out,” which provoked from the fendant of Mr. Hay the shouts: try to put see you try to put me out.” moment or two it seemed that meeting might break up in disorder.- Hon. Peter Smith came to the assis ! tance of Mr. Amos and invited man in the audience either to come up on the Sygate or cease to interrupt. ‘erence between the two old part- Both had allowed protection to “un rampant in Canada, and were ‘riticising one another for the same ‘hing. Both had permitted of class the }- Amos. “Please give oppor- tunity of speaking to you as man to man. (Applause.) Give a man th contentious subject and made,no ref- erence to Mr. y’s declaration a whe 500 for his er on the Suther- land commission. ~- Says He . Earned It. Mr. Amos defended the Hydrc Radial inquiry and insisted that he had not sought the position, but rather, that it had come as a total surprise to him. There had been pub lic sittings on 112 days, he had put in 180 days service in all, but the pen had taken up almost an entire . Mr. Hay had omitted. to say that ‘the work had taken up much more time-than the actual sittings. such as inspection of territory, vis- its to the United States, private study on the subject, preparation of the report and other duties. Mr. Amos said that he had received $5,- 00 for his services on the commis- sion, the same as had been paid the other commissioners, and tawyers, “who didn’t sweat themselves ont os the months of July in prepar- ong the report” had received as high 8 $36,955 » These charges bear absolutely no relation to the issues at present be- fore the people,”’ declared Mr. Amos in ee e- Mr. Crerar Introduced Hon. Mr. Crerar, the next speaker, was introduced by Hon. Peter Smith. as the coming premier, a remark which brought loud cheers from the audience. The National Progressive leader referred in opening, to the “grand old “county of Perth” and to the fact that he had been born in the adjoining county of Huron. His father, however, had heen born only about seven miles from Stratford, in North Easthope township, so that he (Mr. Crerar) felt that he should have all the virtues coming from associa- tion with both counties. His grand- father had settled in Perth county, eighty years ago, and the speaker paid a tribute to those pioneers who had done so much to make Ontario the “gurden”’ it is today. “I am glad to see so many: ladies present,’” said Mr. Crerar, “‘and right here I must take issue with Mr. Mei- ghen, who is laying great claim to having given the women fran- chise. It was.the Union Government, of which I was a2 member, whether fortunately or unfortunately, I do nct know, which extended the franchise to women. The present government is an altogether different aggregation, s0 much so that some its own friends hardly recognize it. I, myself, was one of those who urged votes for women. I want your votes just as much as Mr. Meighen, and naturally don’t want him to take all the credit.” The speaker added that the farm- ers’ political movement had had much to do with pushing the “great reform” of women’s suffrage for- ward and felt sure that the extension of the franchise to women would re- sult in permanent good to the coun- try and would mean a great contribu- tion to Canadian public life. “At any rate the women voters can’t make a worse mess of things than the men have done,’’ added the speaker amid laughter. ba speaker dealt with the Nation- it generally a said that like every new move- ment it had been the turget of brick- bats, an the “frightful specter” which would arise were it given con- trol of affairs, had been described. “It is not a class movement,” de- clared the speaker, “in the sense that it seeks class legislation or class domination. That is what we are having today. The whole Progres- sive movement is a protest against that very thing. We are opposed to the granting of favors by the state at the expense of the people. Every o Svstem —~. Look for the —_ Holden mark on every pair FOR SALE BY Shoe Dealer W. A. KIBLER nme AMES HOLDEN Your New ‘These British guaranteed to outwear any Pair of similar shoes long-wearing rubbers must be better or such a broad claim could not be made. Never before have Canadian-made shoes been sold with a guarantee that so completely protects you, and assures the utmost value for your There’s an Ames Holden exactly what you need. of the guarantee. money. Rubber Shoe or Boot which is next time you need a pair, The be sure you ask us for Ames Holden and get the benefit RUBBER FOOTWEAR by these bodies, as a politrcai one from first to last and designed to dis credit the National Progressive movo- ment. He had been authoratively. in- formed that it was the Government's hope to “get’”’ the Grain Growers and to get Mr. Crerar. ployee of the United Grain Growers, who at a secret sitting of the con- mission had given evidence of alleg- ed false bottoms in elevators and oth er matters, had been dismissed bs the organization eight years ago for irregular practices and his evidence was “practically a complete tissue of falsehoods.”’ The whole intention of the inquiry, said Mr. Crerar, was tu create and excite prejudice against the National Progressive movement. OW e not afraid of any. proper inguiry,”” said the spenker. “Tha Board of Grain Commissioners has all the necessary powers to carry on an inguiry. Out West the Govern- ment speakers are not discussing the tariff, but are merely trying to dis- credit us. That is not the way I do my political fighting. I give hard blows, but I give them in a fair way I try to discuss — Says bf an Issue. Canada’s national debt of two and a half billion dollars, said the speak- er, was surely an issue. And this debt had been added to last year, alone, by $100,000,000. The problew of the national railways was due to the corrupting influences of railway promoters in the past. Double Cana- da’s present population would solve the question over night. What was there of a constructive nature in the speeches of the members of the Gov- ernment? askéd the speaker. “The policy the Government puts before you is simply a blank atk, = he declared. “They ask you to sign {t and leave it for ‘hent to fill out after elected to power * he National Progressive policies. movement of reform has had its birth in small'beginnings. I venture to say that the majority of the towns: and cities of the West will give majorities for National Progressive | candidates at the coming election. “Ours is € movement that te any class,"’ continued the gneak | legislation avd class domination. ' To Stay in Contest. Mr. Amos dee'acrd that ke was en- deavoring to cond-ct as clean a eam- in’ gn as pe “est 4" ey Nerta Perth. are i PURE =e" rs thot he wos inter? 1° at of the cumpaigu we: LY pes nnKea a, ‘I wis rmaer:"* cad t e speaker. ‘Healt’ ud weather permitting, I intend tel - ‘uc wiMpaign right up wif Jecern ber 6th, and I will not be do- ing it individually, either. I am proud to my standard in both city and coun- try. If we lose, it will not be through inquiry commis- “He never said it,’’ declared some- Amos as to the Mr. Amos continued to” contend! There "and “Put him ® “Just I'd “like For the me out.” the “Well, mind whether h ‘o emphatically deny thes ‘i organizations of the West R t‘armers and profiting generally Growers Company, of which Mr, Crer ur was president, was, said the speak- er, 000 shareholders. I iba off no one, ture of the Government's arguments in view of the ‘“‘very barren prospect”’ it faced and referred to the posters “The premier is shown rescuing Can- ada, er, thing is that he is carrying her out! onto the most rocky a ernment .s just as barren of argu- | | Ment, and it will be just as pF al and barren a shore to which Canada will be brovght if the Government is! again entrusted with power. *e Royal Commission inguiry into the ever he} operations said it or Sot; * finally ejaculated Mr. ganizations, ‘T have no use fer cass legisla- | eon of any kind We want to think, a large comprehensive se so—ne t'e angle of anv ct=ss he national point of vow et mete'l von that 'e Progressive Party has t:e nutione outlook in grevter degree than any “her of the yelitieal _ now ap- pealing for, your suppo Grain Growers' eae The cueckar referred to accusa- tions made against the grain growers’ by Hon. . Bennett, Minister of Justice. that they were taking toll from the at United Grain their expense. The a co-operative company with 36,- ““hese organizatioins are ” said the speaker. “I | nyself, have been described as a! niiionelen, but my t6ta@l stock hold-i ’ ings in the United Grain “i consist of $200, and my dividend last year amounted to $12." Grower: | (Laughter. ) ne agrarian chieftain declared that he was not surprised at the na " said the speaker, amid laught- “but the real joke of the whole and desolate! shore yon ever looked at. The Gov- “Political Inquiry." The speaker branded the recent of the Grain Growers’ or- ‘which had been backed 'a greater loss of population ju taking | janswered Mr. Crerar, 000, elsewhere, making ends meet,” said the speaker said the speaker, were the most con- structive before the ‘people’ today. “Is protection making the country prosperous?” he asked. Trade is de- clinng, and when we should have a enupeiiion of over ten million people, “he official census “figures give us smoty eight and a half million. Ans- wering a ques"oner who declared that under free trade there would be to the nitcd States, the speaker contended | ‘iat if Canada had a different fiscal policy the population would be great- er and more employment would be provided. Asked a Question. “How did the United States get its weulth if not by protection?” asked a man in the audience. “My friend better go down thers and see,’’ was Mr. Crerar’s rejoinder “Canada's population fs not growing as it should,” continued the speaker “Mr. Meighen says more protection is necessary. Hus protection given ome eee to labor?” “Nor has the world, " called an in terrapter again. ‘‘The whole world is upset.”” The whole world is upset, I agree, “and little 5 afraid my friend is a upset The greatest industry in Canada is ‘agriculture, continued the 'speaker, and half the people were engaged in it. Agriculture was as much an in- The former em- prosperous, merchants and wholesal-{ ers are busy,-the railways carry more goods and manufacturing plants are busy. The present fiscal policy of Canada, | contended Mr. Crerar, placed penai- ties on the great native industries of Canada. The only purpose of the tariff, he declared, was that the man- ufacturer might benefit by the ex-) clusion of outside goods from the home market. The tariff operated tu place handicaps on agriculture. speaker would change the policy of the country so as courage in the greatest degree pos- sible the development of the coun- try’s natural wealth and the conse- quent provision of more employment. The speaker referred to dairy pro- ucts and said that the home market was inadequate for their absorption. Dairy products could not be produced at profitable prices if dependent upon the home market alone. The home market of which the Government spoke so much, was ‘‘no good” ex- cept in local instances. Th question must be viewed in the large nationa! 8 “Canada,”’ said Mr. Crerar, “needs a broad, constructive financial policy very badly. We ply must quit going into debt. We must economize wherever economy can be practiced. The protective policy was meant to help infant industries get establish- ed,‘but it seems to me they have re- mained infants for a Iong time. Pro- tection is not suitable to the needs of Canada at the present time, but don’t you believe those twho say that I would sweep away the tariff over night. (Applause.) I now some- thing of the.responsibilities of utd | ness and no one in his senses would wipe out protection ‘at one full swoop. I believe in free trade and I do not believe in protection, and] while I am in favor of the ultimate} élimination of the principle of pro ! tection I would give manufacturing} . industries time to adjust themse! vo] to the new conditions. I am rot cp-! possed tothe manufacturers of Cane-| da. I like to see them develop ard} prosper, but what are they doing. i| ask them, by the way, to get into the| outside market? The'protective tariff! is a barrier to trade with the world.| 2 OFITYOU T you are progressive and want to impress the fact HE suit that will fit H Tom, Dick or Harry will not suit you. If upon those you meet you want an up-to-date stylish suit. If such is the case you are in need of our ser- vices. J.A.BAILE? MERCHANT: TAILOR) MAIN STREET LISTCWEL eee - XMAS {AS GREETING CARDS Some manufacturers in the Unir'ed read.rs, to States are opposed to its reintro The Banner oe 7 we are duction, and I predict that it wilt; ¢@ll and pnctigal hig F. uns a not be resorted jo for any lengtn of| C@trying this year. time over there. anadian' manu-} ~~ facturers must e. out and. An automobile connection across abroad for trade in ‘precisely same way as American manufactur- ers are doing. “What about revenue?” was nf question from the audience. “That's just what I was coming to,’ replied Mr. Crerar. “I nk my friend must be something of a mind reader. Last year less than a} third of our revenue was raised by/ tariff, and this year I um afraid we: will not get much more than half of | that we got last year. A protective dustry as was the making of furni-| ture, or of boots and shoes, and half of Canada’s exports were from the in “the last six months, of $335,000,-! no less than $198,000,000 were! of agricultural products. Agriculture, was the basic and the chief industry of Canada and other | industries were dependent upon Mt. “You farmers in Perth county, as, ere having difficulty in! If the farmers are not prosperous, | there is only one result—mercuant | and wholesalers in cities feel the effects, run on shorter hours and give employment—but if the farmers are the towns and and factories less a farms. Protected industries, he, efit nniden tae Ge a ee claimed, produced very little for ex-/ ee. "| port. Out of total Canadian exports; tariff is intended to keep goods ont! of the country, and if you are going to keep goods out pf the country.: how are you going to get revenue?, The tariff adds to the cost of living’ and operates unfairly. | Favors Direct Taxation. Under the sales tax, declared the’ speaker, practically everything thut! the people of Canada required was! taxed. It was an inequitable method! and the direct method was the best! way. Indirect methods, he claimed, led to inefficiency and corruption in' government. The direct tax gare one a direct interest in how it, was used and resulted in individual in-! sistence upon economy - and effici-| ency in public affairs. Direct tax- ation, he contended, always led to! “purer and sounder administration.” “If the National Progressive Party | is elected to power," said the speak-| ier, “you will get the maximum of; gocd that fr be ee in rovern-' ment in this countr H. W./) Wood of the United Verhess of Al; berta, was not a “very dreadful in- dividual, " remarked Mr. Crerar, in|! commenting on attacks by: Premier: vm the Sahara Desert is the plan of ; Was a difficult country to a French engineer, who is experiment- ing with cars specially constructed to cross sand and climb sharp undula- tions. Six automobiles will make the trip. The cars are of the caterpillar type. If the trip is a success it will mean the establishment of road com- munication throughout the ‘French African empire and will aid in its de- ' velopment ' Meighen on the Canadianism of the west. Sir George Perley, Sir Williant Van Horne, and Howard G. elle were native-born Americans who had made good Canadiaus. and although born in Missouri, Sir Robert Borden had thought Mr. Wood good enough to ask him to enter the Union Gov- ernment.'The attacks upon Mr. Wood {and himself were only intended to excite prejudice against the new po- litical movement. Appeals for Unity Mr. Crerar, in closing ante an ap- = for unity in Canada, saying hat he preached unity wherever he ’ earls Canada, with a population of only two people to the square mile. govern, od it was only by unity that the isang problems before the country | co ould be successfully attacked. Unity | was the basis of al] fair play, and East and West should work together in the interests he Canada “‘first, last and all the tim “In a land Meeeed as are few others,” declared the National Fro- gressive leader, “let us stand togeth- er ao the solid rock of justice to alk and apply ourselves to the tasks that lie ahead.” (Applause 2.)