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"He can tell you what is not true." Col. Drew sarcastically com- , mented, "yet when a man who has ibeen connected with the militia for $80 years, attempts to tell what is Col. Drew said that while the censor had denied to him the right tosay anything about the details of Canada's military equipment, Mr. King, speaking in Winnipeg, according to "his local pamphlet, the Toronto Star," had given details of the number of machines and engines of war, "and not one word of it was true." " 'The peace establishment of our land forces is six divisions,' " he read. "A nameless government spokesman broadcast that fact over the radio recently. Anybody who knows anything of the Canadian militia knows that we have six divisions. Yet I was forbidden to say so." At this point Col. Drew explain- ed that the censor had never sug- gested that the censored facts he had just quoted were wrong. "I defy anyone in Canada to say that what I say of the militia situation is wrong. That is something I know something about." "Remember that it was only last Tuesday in Winnipeg," Col. Drew added, "that Mr. King charged that our lack of preparation was due to the fact that Mr. Bennett had neglected our defense preparations. I explained in exact detail why that statement of Mr. King's was a deliberate, falsehood. Having done Bo, I then said u Mr. King exactly what he said of Mr. Bennett. Mr. King was not only permitted to say it, but it received headlines in many papers. When I gave exact facts to show how incorrect his state- ment was, and pointed out that it was, in fact, his responsibility, then the political censor stepped in to protect Mr. King." Cites Peace Establishment Col. Drew, saying, “I don't know whether the press will be able to use them, but youll hear them," continued to quote censored parts from radio script. " 'The weapons of the infantry come first. Our infantry was arm- ed with rifles brought back to Canada from the Great War. They were obsolete and we had not near- ly enough to train our present establishment. The only machine guns on issue to our militia units were also obsolete relies of the Great War. The handful of Bren guns in Canada, were inadequate even for training purposes, and all were made either in England or Czechoslovakia. Not one was on issue to the volunteer militia units when war came. " ‘Our field artillery did not pos- sess a single modern weapon. In spite of some changes and the ad. dition of rubber tires the eighteen- pounders of our field artillery were not even the last model of the Great War. We had less than half the number, even of. these obsolete weapons which were required for our peace establishment. I can take you to at least one unit, Mr. King, which is trying to train to-day with a tsytlvetryruler made for the South African War.' " 'In the' whole of Canada we had four anti-aircraft guns which could have been used against modern air'. craft. They arrived from England last year and were not of the latest pattern. Reads Censored Phrases Then Col. Drew, defying Mr. King's gag-rule, read forth the censored phrases (which are print- ed in blaekfaee type) and explained their context with running com- ment: 7 "I wish to read you one sent- ence," he said, "whieh shows per- fectly clearly the political nature of the censorship now in force. The remarks which were censored were yidressed to Mackenzie King. This is one: " 'On your shoulders rests the full responsibility for the tact that our defense forces have practically no modern Weapons of any kind.' " " 'Our tank battalions Were with.. out tanks. You know that we have a small number of obsolete ma- chines at Camp Borden and that your government would not even _ ply the necessary technical wipment so that these tanks could 'ilsed‘for instructional purposes. " ‘Our mechanized cavalry was without mechanical equipment of any kind.' " He challenged Mr. King to deny that in 1937 he had told the Imperial Conference that Canada might not be with the Empire in case of war. ' These included charges, based on facts he adduced, that Mr. King had gravely contributed to Hitler's decision to make war, had basely concealed the facts which the Canadian people had a right to know, had killed freedom of speech and established dictatorship in Canada, had totally failed to arm Canada for a war he admitted he foresaw. ' . In addition to reading to the New Toronto audience the "forbidden" parts of his speech of the night before, Colonel Drew made-serious new charges against Mr. King and his cabinet. Colonel Drew explained that he was taking the first opportunity to defy Mr. King's gag-rule throufh the kind, ness of W. J. Stewart, M.P.P., and Colonel Hooper, who had earlier been scheduled to speak, but who stepped down to allow Colonel Drew to win his battle with the censors and the men over them. Drew Exposes Tragic Conditions in Armed Forces to Refute Premier's Claims - Blundering Continues After Six Months of Conflict . Some of the skeletons in the government's war record, that Mackenzie King had scuttled a Parliament to hide and hired censors to conceal, were bared before a New Toronto audience recently in a fighting speech by.. Col. ceorsrt,rl,1,T,r: -'"iifiis' Tiriiii"'war iifi"iF'il'n"idFs' of government failure to prepare Canada for war --- the facts that had been carved out of his radio speech the night before by a government censor. Army Remains Guniess Airplanes Lack Engines Under King War 'Effort' KING GAG " CRITICS OF GOVERNMENT DEFIED BY DREW THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 1940 Never Suggested Error He pointed out that no matter how much Mr. King might brag about the War Supply Board, it could not initiate plans for national defense. , He quoted again from his censor- ed speech: ' " 'About two years ago your Government made contracts with the National Steel Car Corporation, Limited, for the manufacture of Lysander Army Co-operation, Air. craft. The contracts called for 28 machines. They were finished last fall. As they were finished they were flown from the factory at Melton to the Trenton Airport two at a time. But when they got to Trenton they were not used for reasons which ‘you understand per. fectly well, as I brought these facts to your attention four months ago, Although these contracts were made about two-years ago, when the National Steel Car Corporation finished the machines the Depart- ment of National Defense had no propellers in Canada of the type needed. That was caused by in, competence in the Department of National Defense. As a result many of these machines were stored at Trenton at a time when they were so urgently needed for training. Now we come to that part of the story which explains how little the War Supply Board can really do to overcome the inefficiency of your Government. true, he is told he cannot say. that over the radio." _ He scoffed at Ki.rigy “offer” to train British pilots 111 Canadian air- force schools. "'The best evidence of that is the fact that although our land forces were without modern weap. ons when war began, no new order has been placed in Canada during six months of war for the Weapons that we need so badly . . / " " 'You are aware that the only pursuit ships we had in Canada then were five ancient Sopwith- Siskins which had been obsolete for at least ten years and had a top speed of 145 miles an hour. Those were the machines with which you were going to give advanced train- ing to men who would be called " The 28 aircraft were finished some months ago. The National Steel Car Corporation did a Splen- did job. But it was not their duty to order the engines. When the aircraft were finished it was found that the Government had only ordered 20 engines, and eight of these machines are still at the Malton plant without engines, simply" because the Department of National Defense. forgot to order the engines from England until last December . . . . COL. GEORGE DREW No Defense Plans "Remember," he said, "there were supplied by an organization created only to meet emergencies. That organization has beep doing a good work and meeting a situation created by the incapacity of the government.” Col.. Drew dealt with Premier King’s claim that he had felt it necessary to dissolve Parliament because the knowledge that the These units, he said, while train- ing in Canada and entitled to re- ceive supplies from the government, had been provided by the Red Cross with 5,801 pair of socks, 3,157 pair pyjamas, 100 pneumonia jackets, 11 dozen horse brooms, 25 pails, 1 dozen pie pans, potato peeler, 1 tin., ned steel mixing bowl, 200 scarfs, 50 hospital bed gowns, 160 ther.. mometers, 1 operating table, 1 in. strument table, 2 stretcher cars, 12 surgeon’s gowns, six surgeon's mats and numerous other articles. Military units which had received supplies from the Canadian Red Cross while stationed at the Exhi- bition grounds, Toronto, he stated, included the Toronto Scottish, Royal Canadian Regiment, Royal Regiment of Canada, 48th High- landers of Canada, Royal Canadim Engineers, lst M.T.V.R.D.; R,C, A.S.C.; C.A.S.F., 2nd Field Bat- tery, No. 1 Bridge Co., lst Reserve M.T. Co., R.C.A.M.C., 2nd Medieal Battalion, 2nd Division Field En- gineers, R.C.A.F., lst General Hos. pital, 1st Battery lst Field Artil- lery, R.C.N.V.R., 2nd Field Park Co., and the Christie Street Hos- pital. Continuing, Col. Drew declared that "the Canadian Red Cross So- ciety, which was organized only to supply necessities in cases of great emergency, had been forced to step in and before Canadian troops had left Canadian soil had to provide supplies which should have been provided by the government. Many British and Canadian pilots, he said, had lost their lives because of poor training conditions in England. These lives would have been saved had it been pos- sible to train airmen under the vastly superior flying conditions "in Canada, he contended. "That's when the proposal was made in regard to the Empire air training plan. Mackenzie King says We eouhin't do tbat-it meant the establishment of training camps under exclusive control of the Bri. tish Air Ministry. "In other words, he said that here, with half a continent and only 11,000,000 people he eouldn't find enough space for pilots to tvaitr--though they were asking it because the weather of the British Isles makes it extremely difficult to train with modern machines, which are across England almost before they are up.” Balked In 1937 Mackenzie King's failure to lend prompt co-operation to the British Government when the Empire Air Training Plan was first broached in 1937, possibly contributed to the outbreak of the war, Col. Drew asserted. Had the scheme to train British flyers in Canada been put into operation at that time, he said, the Royal Air Farce would have been materially strengthened and Chamberlain and Daladier would not have had.their hands tied at Munich because of the doubt that the British and French air forces were a match for Germany’s. “I challenge Mr. Mackenzie King," he thundered, "to tell the Canadian people that he did not inform the Imperial Conference in 1937 that the Empire Defense Plans would have to be worked out on the basis that Canada might not be with the British Empire in the event of war. upon to handle fighters with a speed of 400 miles an hour.' " Challenge On Loyalty At this point Col. Drew challeng- ed Mr. King to show that he had not undermined Britain's belief in 2ga.dat loyalty as far back as 19 . . LAKE SHORE RD. JU. 4129 -Alllh, 4220--WESToN ZONE 4-426 NEW TORONTO ZONE 6-600 . TYPE WILL SELL TD-DAY These Community Papers Will Develop Your Business The Brampton Conservator PEEL COUNTY 3,100 Red Cross Supplies New Toronto Advertiser" If you want to reach a real buying market who need your merchandise use the Charters Publications. The type in the news articles and advertisements talks loud and strong. It is convincing. This is the statement made by those who use the columns of these Publications. THE WESTON TIMES AND GUIDE 4,700 S,900 BRAMPTON, ONT. "After France and Britain last spring took their' tstahd-.-and Aus- tralia said, ‘We too stand with you' --atui New Zealand spoke-and that' grand South African Jan Christian Stttute--ouly Canada re- mained silent. “Have you forgotten your silence in those awful months?" he asked Premier King. "Germany took that silence, to mean that Canada‘was "But when Chamberlain flew to Munich, with ten times the vigor in his little finger that Mackenzie King has in his whole flabby body, he had the encouragement of Aus- ttalia-and not a word from Can- ada, though every thinking person in Canada. knew that Christianity, freedom and every decent thing thelle stood with their backs to the we , "That is the rankest hypocrisy of which any public man in Canada has yet been" guilty," he said. "If Mr. King thinks that, he should cast his, eye back a little. He wasn't quite so disturbed about Germany on other occasions. He hashad the effrontery, in mention- ing the terrible load he says he was carrying for three years, to mention Munich, Ontario house has disapproved of hip1_hadytope abrpad, to Germany: Naturally the story begins with the missions and the martyrs; but the impression it leaves: differs from'that created by the offerings of most, if not all, other writers. Even- Parkman regarded the trag- edy of Brtsbeuf an his companions as the inevitable consequence of re- ligious hope crushed for the time between contending material forces. Civil authority was -bound to tes- tablish itself over the warring Indian tribes, and it was the fate of the missions to be associated with the weaker, or less resolute, force. The sidelight Dr. Bull throws upon the picture shows the Jesuits as guided by their long experience in South America. Their practical purpose evidently was to make Fort Ste. Marie the first of a series of just such native villages, or in- dustrial settlements, as the “Re- The average reader will not soon lay it down. The reviewer's atterr. tion is challenged by much new and absorbing material of wide histori- cal merit. Dr. William Perkins Bull, K.C., is to be congratulated on this result of his research. Not a few qualified pens have already traced the history of the Roman Catholic Church in Upper Canada, down from the earliest planting by the missionaries of Huronia. But either they did not go deep enough in search of new sources, or they confined them.. selves too closely to the expand- ing concerns of the faith and the abilities of a gifted line of bishops. "From Macdonell to McGuigan" is not merely the story _ of the Church and the' personages who fi- gured round about it; it deals with all manner of layfolk in every walk of life, presenting them in strong lights, humorous, dramatic and not infpysquenyy tragic. . . ... From Macdornell to MCGuigan is the latest addition to the Perkins Bull Historical Series. This beauti- ful volume, bound in purple suede, has on the cover the papal arms in a design by Dr. Charles W. Jef- ferys, R.C.A., O.S.A., the illustra- tor of the volume The book of over 500 pages, with fifty pages of half-tone engravings, some re- productions in color, and scores of drawings, is a delight to the eye and a surprise to the seeker after historical information. A Roman Catholic History An Orangeman "FROM MACDONELL TO McGUIGAN” Only Canada Silent By WM. PERKINS BULL The Perkins Bull Foundation, 330 Bay St., Toronto In Four Editions-De Luxe, Library, Fireside and Staff HEAD OFFICE; BRAMPTON, ONT. NEW TORONTO TIMES AND GUIDE BY Col. Drew ended his talk with a statement that no greater comfort could go to Germany than the news that Mackenzie King had been re- tumedjo power on March 26. _ "I have transgressed against what Mr. King's censors have said can be spoken from the public platform," he declared. "And I am prepared to take the responsi- bility," -- A --v - V “We are British, Mr. King., and by the game of God we're gomg to stay British," (Published Br Dr. William H. Autt, " Oakmount Road. Toronto. Official Agent For A. J. Anderson.) "Mr. King has been very friendly to Germany," Col. Drew continued. "He arranged a trade pact with Germany. He has himself told us that in 1936 he knewwar was al- most inevitable, yet in that year when 1,503 Canadian coal miners were'without work Canada bought $700,849 of coal frOm Germany. In 1937, when Mr. King called on Adolf, there were 1,834 unemployed Canadian miners and the importa- tion of $1,416,779 worth of coal from Germany." not with the British Empire. By that very act, Mr. King, you con- tributed to the possibility of war." He said Mr. King concealed then, any sorrow in his "hard little heart." in Canada reckoned without the Iroquois, who at Fort Ste. Marie proved more cruel and bloodthirsty than any Mamelukes. The inference is that had the Iroquois not pursued their tribal aims by relentless war, a French empire might have arisen, with Huronia as its centre, in spite of the handicap of fur-hunting French authorities who c on 1 d neither impress the Indians nor protect the missions. Dr. Bull has endeavoured to 10- eate the Indian village of Kan- doucho near the Credit River. He traces the journey of Brébeuf and Chaumonot with unerring' skill, and upon the facts, makes out an al- most conclusive case. In telling how Peel got its name he deals very pleasantly with Dan- iel O'thonne11, Catholic Emancipa- duetions" they established in Para- guay. Out of these they were hunted by the murderous Mame- lukes, against whom the Spanish state was too weak and corrupt to afford pyotectiqn. But the Jesuits 2936 DUNDAS ST. W. 2936 DUNDAS ST. W. Dr. Wm. Perkins Bull, K.C. The St. Clair Weekly Times The West Toronto Weekly THE AUTHOR 12,800 10,000 But these were not the only re- markable people drawn to Canada by the apparent pull of destiny. Daniel 0'Cotutel1's cousin, Colonel Connell Baldwin, was connected with the Upper Canada patriot, Robert Baldwin, on one side and with the Irish Liberator on the other. As Dr. Bull tells his story, he must have possessed the best quali- ties of mind and heart of both families. He was as true a patriot, as active in danger as Bishop-Mac- donell himseWand as seif-effacing a Christian as Bishop Power who sacrificed his life in serving the Irish ship-fever victims. Connell Baldwin turned Clogheneagh Lodge, Thomas Weld's heir married Lucy Bridget Clifford, making the incidental connection of the Clif.. fords and Chichesters with Canada. All these people were of ancient and devout Catholic lineage, and in 1847, by an extraordinary coin- cidence, Sir Charles Chichester, as Commander-in-Chief of the garri- son, turns up in Toronto where he died. His was "the most impressive funeral ever seen in the city." His body was buried under St. Miehael's Cathedral. In regard to events more or less outside the Church, the book holds a charm for the general reader. It saves from oblivion many figures of the past. Chief of these is Car- dinal Weld, whose eventful life had its Canadian chapter, now written for the first time: Thomas Weld, a great English gentleman, was distantly connected by marriage with the Macdonells. Upon the death of his wife. Weld entered the priesthood, and the Bishop pressed on him the opportunity for service in Canada. He was consecrated Bishop of Amyela and appointed Bishop Matedonell's coadjutor. Weld donated considerable money and made many gifts to the diocese, some of which went to the little "Fifth Line Chureh". While in Rome with his invalid daughter, Bishop Weld was created Cardinal, but this did not by any means put an end to his princely generosity. So many lives seem swayed by des- tiny! The destiny that crowded Upper Canada with Macdonells, though it failed to draw Cardinal Weld, involved many of his rela- tives. The romance of Mrs. Pie.. herbert, his unele's widow, and George IV is revived in a new light. The law of the realm did not admit as valid her marriage to the Prince Regent; but she and George IV continued to live to- gether as man and wife even after he became King. tion, and Sir Robert Peel, dropping incidentally into the rollicking spirit of the “Peeler and the Goat". T The Reverend Edmund Burke, trusted friend of Sir Guy Carleton and of Lt.-Gov. Simcoe, was the first English-speaking bishop. The earliest asset of Bishop Macdonell in York was land granted to Dr. Burke tor purposes of religion and education. This grant turned out to be the original source of discord between Alastair Mhor, as Dr. Bull likes to call him, and Dr. William John O'Grady, the Bishop's Vicar- General and a friend of William Lyon Mackenzie. The story of (YGrady's colourful career in Ire- land, in South America and finally in York, is vividly told. This epi- sode, treated in detail, made trouble before, and in 1837. However, Dr. Bull does not accuse O'Grady of having personal connection with the rebels. He appeared to have been on excellent terms with Sir John Colborne; and Sir Francis Bond Head did not go further than name him as Mackenzie's editor. He was suspended by the Bishop and never sought restoration of his faculties. The author hopes that some day his grave may be dir. covered, and suitably Taired, " The hero of the book, Bishop Macdonell, is seen as a six footer from the Braes o' Lochaber, a Highlander full of dash and ability whose ragged personality domin- ated the policy pursued during the development of Church organiza- tion in Upper Canada. The admin- istrative abilities of the Most Rev.. erend James Charles McGuigan, the present incumbent, are strik- ingly set forth. _ - TORONTO TORONTO From Macdonell to McGuigan contains that wealth of textual potes, appendices, bibliography and index, dohtinuous1y p r e s e n t e d throughout the Perkins Bull His.. torical Series. In addition there is an exhaustive table of contents. It has been done by the Charters Pub- !ishing Co. as creditably as were its predecessors. For _much of the original material used In this section of the book, and as to Bishop Macdonell, the author acknowledges his indebted- ness to Major the Rev. Ewen J. Macdonald, M.C., rector of St. Fin- nan’s Cathedral, Alexandria. The customary family dedication is to the Honourable Mrs. Michael Bull, wife of, the author's third son, Michael, and her two sons, glichae] Matthew and George Jef- rey. The McNiff map, a genuine his- torical document, is brought to light by Dr. Perkins Bull. This map, dated 1786, now reproduced for the first time, was uncovered in the archives of the Bishop of Alexandria, and settles doubts of one sort or another concerning United Empire Loyalist names along the north shore of the St. Lawrence. In From Macdonell to McGuigan, the plan of the farms and all the names of grantees are reproduced and details of the sur- vey explained with clarity. It car~ rise. the story of Stormont and Glengarry back not only to the Mo.. hawk Valley and Sir William J ohn- son, but to the Knoidart and Moy- dart clearances and Prince Charlie; to Father Alexander Scotus Mae- donell, who emigrated with his whole parish, and to the great re- etrrd of Highland fidelity to Britain under the leadership of a resolute Irish priest, Father McKenna. The map, and the explanations accom- panying it, should be of interest not only to every tjesereian.t..of Upper Canada Highland families, but to Loyalists as well. There were some Irish in Father Mc- Kenna's flock of fighting men who trailed from the Mohawk Valley to Montreal. The ardent J ohn Carberry out the great cross from a straight cedar, and carried it on his shoulder across country from his farm to place above the little church he and his neighbours had built. And Father McSpiritt, the "healer", who unashamed of the dry com- ment of Bishop Lynch, continued to practise his God-given power to heal the afflicted. In brief, not one of the early priests or layfolk has been. forgotten, in the recital of kindly deeds and entertaining tal- ents by this warm hearted chron- icler of the lives of the people. A good deal of their comings and goings is artless enough, but it is all human and most wholesome for reflection. There were many other great souls among the pioneer settlers. Alexander McVean, the first settler in the Gore of Toronto, with his blood mare "Meg", emigrated dur- ing the Highland depression. Mounted on Meg, he was a fine, picturesque figure on the trails of the Home District. In the chapter "Lochaber No More" is told the entrancing story of the ups and downs, even the blessings and mis.. fortunes of this Protestant High- land immigrant and his Roman Catholic wife, a cousin of Alastair Mhor. “Under Workmen’s Compensa- tion Insurance, as carried out in the Province of Ontario," said Mr. Gibson, "only accidents covered in actual industrial hours are provided for. We believe that there is a greater liability to employees hav.. ing accidents in going to and from work and in their homes, than there is in our mills. Workmen’s Com- pensation insurance covers only ac- cidents. They do not cover sickness, not do they give the insured any life insurance. All of these forms of insurance can be more economically his palatial home at Grahamsvillel into a hospital for the free treat ment of Irish immigrants suffer- ing from ship-fever. Baldwin and his wife, assisted by Catholic neighbours, the Smyths, the Hay- dens and others, nursed the afflieb. ed strangers. Dr. Bull devotes a chapter to Connell Baldwin, and few things have been written about that better deserve the research and the writing. Baldwin impover- ished himself to raise and equip a regiment, largely of his fellow Catholics in Peel, to defend the Niagara border against the armed raiders inspired by Maokenzie's "patriots". A few days ago, it became known that the National Cellulose of Can- ada Limited and its associated Company, Dominion Cellulose Limi- ted, had introduced group insurance among their employees, and as no formal announcement was forth- coming, we interviewed William S. Gibson, President of both Com.. panies, to confirm or deny what we had heard. Weadmitted the soft impeach- ment and asked him if we. might run the story. "Well," replied your reporter, "why does a firm like yours, who, of necessity, pay for Workmen's Compepsation Insurance, also need group insurance?" "You work pretty fast," said Mr. Gibson, "this thing only started last Monday". "What do you want to know?” said Mr. Gibson. National Cellulose Group Insurance Plan Scheme Introduced-Fog Benefit of Employees Says William S. Gibson, President of Two Companies, in Interview - Company. Pays Share of Cost . I have had a vast manufacturing experience, and have always been an experimenter in business. I, therefore, can speak with some knowledge when I say that this question of human relationship in business is the great untouched re- source in manufacturing industries in Canada and in the U.S.A. Al- though we have only been in bush ness a comparatively few years. I would back my staff, man for man and woman for woman today with any staff anywhere in this line of business. I have no doubt that at some times I get after them in such a way as to exaggerate some small shortcomings, but I must say that in my experience, the suc- cessful handling of this human re- lationship problem can be made to pay good dividends, providing of course, that the management in do, ing it does not go soft in the head. "Why not," said Mr. Gibson, "t suppose you are referring to the fact that we have no time clocks or no piece work rates. Well, here is the lowdown. I started work when I was thirteen years old and I have been a long time in bu,si.. ness. I can remember the time when the most of the business of this country was personally direct- ed and managed by the owners. I have seen the changes that took place from what you might call private .own.ership to public owner- ship of businessis, I have seen the advent of efficiency experts, cost engineers, stop watch investigators and lynx-eyed accountants, and I have seen this coterie put so much efficiency into business as to al- most destroy human relationships. Every manager of industry knowsl the larger.the industry the more difficult it becomes to handle this question of human relations. You might, therefore, sayvthat when any of our employees geesieVthatr there is going- to beuitoré human.. ity in the relations than there is when he is working because there is no doubt that sOmetimes my, employees can truthfully say that I jolly well get after them." i I got in touch with this company and found that as part of their service, whenever an employee is sick, a registered nurge employed by the company calls on the sick employee, does what she can to help and reports promptly to the employer, the nature of the sick.. ness and her recommendation. L therefore, decided that this was a, scheme whereby, when any em- ployee became sick, the employee would not only be made to feel im. mediately that they were being looked after by competent, sympa~ thetic people, but they would also know-that their employer had the, actual information as to what was wronawitlr them, what caused it and what was necessary to get them better. k "Mr. Gibson, it is a matter off general knowledge that you seem to be operating this business, as far as employee ‘relationship is concerned, in a different way than most people. As we know this is a fact, would you care to make any) further comments?" "Was there. any other reason why you went into the thing at this par- ticular time?" "Yes," said Mr. Gib. son, "early in January, two of our valuable employees were sick. Dure ing the two weeks that they were away, neither myself nor any of my operating heads had a chance to visit them or make any enquiry about their progress, except over the telephone. About that time, I got a circular from an insurance company, talking about group in.. surance and mentioning how many nurses' calls were made by the nurses of their company during the past year. "Most emphatically no," said Mr. Gibson. “In my experience, thatfis the fault of a great many group insurante schemes that have been started in the past and discontinued by manufacturing firms when bird. times came on. Employees, as in; dividuals or as groups, in the same way as everybody else, do now appreciate anything that they em withogt wgrking: for it. As a Lied without working for it. As a mat-E ter of policy, the employees Will be paying 'A of the cost, and the} firm approximately %. 0f.course.1 the employees will get all Of the, benefits" and the firm will take care of all the bookkeeping, hut each employee knows that he iiia, this group scheme because he asked to come into it, and because hear she is largely paying for it. We make only one exception. ' - A If for any reason, we are ttoii able to give our employees contin- uous employment, our companies will pay the total premiums during- the weeks they are laid off for want of work. This, fortunately, does not happen very often in our business. What we are really try. ing to do is look ahead and have in operation an insurance scheme that will function in hard times as well as in good times." Also, every insured person knoWs that there is a greater measure of contentment in the -thought that they are carrying some life insur- ance than there is, or could possibly be, in the thought that they never could get any life insurance. New. while life insurance is not possiplo for individuals without a physical. examination, life insurance for .in- dustrial groups is possible Without physical examinations providing that the groups are large enough and the insurance companies are [ttring to this class of industrial r13 . u We next asked Mr. Gibson, “Dims: the Company pay for all the insure ance?", ('a1.: carried under group insurance than as individual risks. _ PAGE SEVEN