The Real Thing. \_ Mrs. Suburbsonâ€""John, I‘m tickled ,to death with the new drug store." _ Hubbyâ€""How come?" _ Mrs. S.â€""They are really selling at Genova on account of the absence of France and Italy, both of which ere parties to that treaty, The State Departmem indicated that the British propesals in so far as they wou‘ld affect capital chips and aircraft carriors covered in the Washington Naval Treaty should not be taken up Proposed usofu‘ life of surface auxiliâ€" ary craft: Above 3,000 tons, sixteen years; under 3,000 tons, twelve years. Submarines, tweive vears. In determiningâ€"tonmege to be allotâ€" tol each Powe*, adcquate considera tion must be given the existing status of each nation. Exclusion from the foregoing of (A) ships not excecding 700 tons displaceâ€" mont; (B) certain armed surface ships, and (C) aircraft carriors under 10,000 Regulations to govern replacement consruction in order to avoid sudden displacements of naval strength as beâ€" twoon the three Powers, and to equalize anuual cons‘ruction. toms x1 Detroyersâ€"Dcstroyer leaders limitâ€" ed to 1,750 tons. Destroyers limited to 1,400 tons. Submarinesâ€"Fleet submarines limitâ€" ed to 1,600 tons and smaller submarâ€" Inc« to 600 tons, both with 5â€"inch guns, W. C. Bridgeman, first Lord of the Adm‘{ralty, in submitting the British proposals, likewiso suggested reduc tion in the tonnage of future battle= «hips from 35,000 to 30,000 tons, and in the size of guns from 16â€"inch to 13.5â€" inch; reduction of future aircraft carâ€" riers to 25,000 toms instead of 27,000 tons, gnd their armeaments from $â€"inch to Gâ€"inch gums; extension of the life of existing eapital ships from twenty to twenty«ix years, and a waiver by the three Powers of their fwlt rlght‘s‘ Limitation of all future cruisers to 1,500 tons and 6â€"inch guns, after the number of 10,000â€"ton cruisers is deâ€" cided upon. The age limit for replacement to be: Cruisers, twenty years; destroyers, fitâ€" teen to seventeen years, and submarâ€" ines, twelve to thirteen years. Great Britain Cruizersâ€"Acceptance of the existing ratlo of 5â€"5â€"3 for cruisers of 10,000 disâ€" placement carrying 8â€"inch guns. Destroyersâ€"For the United States 200,000 to 250,000 tons. For Great Briain 200,000 to 250,000 tons. For Japan 120,000 to 159,000. Submarinesâ€"For the United States 60,000 to 90,000 tons. For Great Britâ€" ain 60,000 to 90,000 tons. For Japan 36,000 to 54,000 toms. The American, British and Japanese Proposals for Further Naval Limitaâ€" tion, Now in Collision at Geneva, Listed America (5â€"5â€"3) Crulsersâ€"For the United States 250,â€" 000 to 300,000 tons. For Great Britain 250,00 to 300,000 tons. For Japan 150,â€" 000 to 189,000, l‘roposied opt any SCHEDULE OF PROPOSALS AT GENEVA ARMS PARLEY fied t MUTT AND JEFFâ€"By Bud Fisher. *sa Japan 1 in il on yer tonnage of ubmarines. 14 igre igreed 8â€"inch not durâ€" reed l '.u.u:..u .-,~.r:5.a.u; CRMM, COTRS, ) . UM‘ Samuel is now divinely commissionâ€" minute‘s delay on the part of e@ach led 1o go to Bethlehem to find a sucâ€" motorist would make every level|ceessor to Saul among the sons of crossing safe for democracy, Level|Jesse. This Jesse of Bethlichem was orosings are in the townships and the grandson of Boaz and Ruth, of suburbs of Ontario to stay. Not so iwhose marriage we are told in the the people who run themseives and book of Ruth (see 4:18â€"22),. Samuel their friends to death on level crossâ€" ;ï¬mp%'; ‘;.lliem’s?r’t?: eixg);fg:g giic): & s bs 3 m.xs;; (‘(‘>mmunlties will '.“t spend enâ€" which had warned him of the coming ough money to insure the safety of of Saul, ch. 9:16â€"17. But he is now people who refuss to spend enough |an old man, and does not move with time to insure their own safety.lthat fearless_confidence which marked Motorists can buy security for their|his earlier activities. He goes, there-} own lives with Yeliy. Taxpayers or fore, ostensibly to perform a sacrifice, railway shareholders will not buy and thus conceals his real purpose. security for cther people‘s lives with | This, of course, was necessary for the dotars. safety of the house of Jesse and of the son that should be chosen as well Reurecocc«â€" ies as for his own safety. The elders of Smal Visitor: "Is this cottage very, the city came to mest him trembling, very old?"" Hostess: "Yes, dear, more cither because they feared to receive than four hundred years old." Small|him, knowing of his estrangement Visitor: "I thought it looked a bit from Saul, or, more probably, because shabby," |his previous visits had been as judge own lives with Telay. Taxpayers or railway shareholders will not buy security for cther people‘s lives with doÂ¥iars. Toronto Telegram (Ind. Cons.): One minute‘s delay on the part of each motorist would make every level crossing safe for democracy, Level crosings are in the townships and suburbs of Ontario to stay. Not so the peorle who run themseives and their friends to death on level crossâ€" ings. Communities wil nct spend enâ€" ough money to insure the safety of people who refusa to spend enough time to insure their own safety. Motorists can buy security for their i We do not advice buying any stocks ;!nr investment at this time. We exâ€" pect the market to continue in its upâ€" ‘ ward tread for the newrâ€"term yet there is no question but that stock prices ‘are too high from a standpoint of earnâ€" ‘ing, yield and prospects for the future â€"which is merely another way of sayâ€" |ing that they must and will have a ‘much larger reaction than we have ‘thus far witnessed before the investâ€" ment buyer can actually get his money‘s worth by purchasing good stocks. The man who buys stocks toâ€"day should be fully aware that he is payâ€" ing more than they are worth, His only reason for buying shouldl be realization of the inflation processes which are still at work and which promise him a higher leval at which to sel than the level at which he buys. buys.â€"R. W. Schabacker in Forbes Magazire. Don‘t Buy Now for Investâ€" ment When Stocks Are Too High |_ "It will take many months to deterâ€" {mine Mr. Ford‘s future positicn. He has got a struggle before him such as no man ever had before in history of r«chanical arts, He is one man iagalns't organized finance, organized engineering, and organized merchanâ€" dizing, such as the world has never be fore seen. _ "Isn‘t there a #atwration point for l "There is no such thing as a saturaâ€" tion point for any serviceable thing," he replied, "there is no such thirg as a saturation point for men and women on this planet; there is no such thing as a saturation point for human serâ€" vice, and the motor car is the greatest e‘ament in modern human service for it is under all transportation, social order and progress." "What, Mr. Barron, is the keynote for 1927?" was the next question. . "Full employment for labor at good wages," he answered. "The Saturâ€" day night payroll was never larger, end it is the Saterday night payroll that limits purchasing power; and don‘t forgct that more than 90 per cort; of what labor produces labor moters?" Mr. Barron was then asked "The problem is how far Ford can recover his footing in the . motor field," Mr. Barron replied. "By holdâ€" ing tenaciously to what he knew was a good piece of mechanism without any regard to its art appearence, Ford has gone down from over a billion gross business a year to nearly half that, and from 2,200,000 motors a year to about hailf that number _ General Moters has advanced until it is now selling 1,200,000 motors and doing a business of over a billion a year, and the General Mctors is strongly enâ€" trenched in organization, offices, salesâ€" manship, and above all, in its magntâ€" ficent engineering departments, 1 Commodity "What is the outlook for motors?" C. W. Barron, editeor of "Barron‘s Financial Weekly" was asked. No Such Thing As Saturation Point For Any Servicable | MOT&°R SITUATION Level Crossings A PCCR TIME God‘s own heart. There is no doubt that Samuel, true prophet of God, trusted and beloved by the people, wise and farâ€"seeing with the experiâ€" ence of many years of power and responsibility, would have added great strength to Saul‘s kingdom had Saul been wise enough to retain his counâ€" sel and his friendship. It is pathetic to see how. in after years, when Samâ€" uel was dead, he bitterly regretted and vainly sough the counsel which he now rejected. I. samvet‘s vis|t To sernuurexEm, 1â€"5. The breach between Samuel and Saul at Gilgal seems to have been final (see chap. 15). "Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death." They met again but once and that when Saul went to Ramah in pursuit of David and found Samuel | there. But, the historian adds, "Samâ€" ‘ uel mourned for Saul; and the Lord repented that he had madeo Saul king , over Israel," 15:35. | The causes of the breach between Saul and Samuel are not difficult to discover. In the first place Saul was quite evidently not of a religious turn of mind. When we first meet him we note the fact that he knows nothing of so famous a prophet as Samuel, alâ€" though his servant, who accompanied him, knows him vey well, 9:5â€"10. It is a matter of surprise to his friends that he should have been found on one occasion in a company of prophets, and "It became a proverb, Is Saul also among the prophets?" While, no doubt, profoundly influenced, and for a time changed, by the interest which Samuel took in him and the remarkâ€" able experience of being called and consecrated to the kingship (10:5â€" 12), this influence soon passed and unde the stress of war his old jealous and imperious nature _ reasserted itself. The stories told in chapters 13 and 15 show plainly how he chafed under the restraint put upon him by Samuel, who assumed the right as God‘s prophet to bring him messages and commandments from God. To Samuel the divine kingship was still supreme, and the earthly king but God‘s viceregent. Samucl set himself to maintain the theocracy, and when he saw that Saul cared little for the things for which he cared much, he declared that God had rejected him from being king, In contrast to Saul, David proved to be the man after INTRODUCTIONâ€"Early in his reign Saul found himself in deadly conthict with the Philistines. Thess ancient neighbors and enemics of Israel had been for some years, while Samuel was judge, disposed to keep the peace. Now they became more aggressive. They appear to have occupied Gibeah, maintaining a fortified camp there, and hclding the neighboring country in subjection (10:5, Revised Version Margin). This was Saul‘s own home town and a conflict was unavoidable. His brave and energetic son, Jonâ€" athan, mads an attack on this Philisâ€" tine post (ch. 13: 3â€"4, Gebaâ€"Gibeah), and the Hebrews were called to war. The Philistines quickly responded to the challenge and came up into Saul‘s territory with a great army. For the story of this war and its results see chs. 3 and 14. The history tells us t};atq th:a"war_'conkti.nugd "all the days Tt ETTT TD \lfl,fl of Saul," and that Saul established and maintained a small but effective and disciplined standing army, chs. 13:2; 14:52. July 17â€"Samue!l Anoints David, 1 Sarm. 16: 1â€"13. Golden Textâ€"Let no man despise thy youth: but be thou an example of the believers in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in purityâ€"1 Tim. 4:12. > ANALYSIS,. I. samuet‘s visit to BETHLENEM, 1â€"5. II. tus cuoscn or Ttn® LORD, 6â€"13. Sunday School Dinerâ€""Waiter, you ought never to have brought this coffee from the kitchen. It‘s too weak to stir." I1SSUE No. 27â€"27. HOW TO ORDER PATTERNS. Write your name and address plainâ€" Iiy, giving number and sizs of such | patterns as you want. Enclose 20c in | stamps or coin (coin preferred; wrap a fanatic on one point, that he will not let Ireland be absorbed either culâ€" turally, economically or politically by any nation under the sun. no dislike for his British neighbors and no intention of fighting them with guns; in fact, he has every deâ€" sire and intertion of being on the best of terms with them. But he is "Macdara" in the London Fortâ€" nightly Review: The modern IJrish Nationalist is a calm person; he has it ca_refully) for e;crl;'-x;&;!;gér ;;5 address your order to Pattern Dept., W}‘l_!aon~ Publishing Co., 73 West Adeâ€" mide St., Toronto. vi"'ati‘;rr;'s-;ent by the copy. Our Fashion Book, illustrating the newest and most practical styles, will be of interest to every home dressâ€" maker. Price of the book 10 cents y * 1564 ~ A GRACEFUL FROCK. Exceedingly attractive is the charmâ€" ing frock shown here. The foundation is in one piece, and the flared scallopâ€" ed tunic and sleeve cuffs add grace, while a Vâ€"vestee completes this simple yet modish frock. View A is of one material, while View B is shown faâ€" shioned of plain and contrasting maâ€" torial and is trimmed with braid. No. 1564 is for Misses and Small Women and is in sizes 16, 18 and 20 yeam.‘ View A, size 18 (36 bust) requires 4% yards 39â€"inch material, or 2% yards 39â€"inch material for dress, and 1% yards for tunic, vestee and cuffs; 3 yards trimming braid. Price 20c the pattern. At last the youngest was brought in from the field, where he kent the sheep. His red hair and fair skin were accounted marks of unusual beauty. He was "of a beautiful counâ€" tenance and goodly to look to." He was chosen, and to him also came the spirit of the Lord, giving new direcâ€" tion and new and purified ambition. And so it was said of him long afterâ€" wards that the Lord, Chose David also his servant, And took him from the sheepfolds, To feed Jacob his people, and Israel his inheritance. So he fed them according to the inâ€" tegrity of his heart; And guided them y the skillfulness "For the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart." It was, no doubt, in the rrivacy of Jesse‘s house that Samucl met his sons. The first of these, Eliab, must have been a young man of fine apâ€" pearance, for Samuel said to himself, "Surely this is the chosen one." But he had learned wisdom from the failâ€" ure of Saul, and no longer put his trust in outward appearance. Thus the inward wico adntonished him, to call them to account for some fault or crime of which they had been guilty, and they feared that this visit might be for the same purpose. Samâ€" vel dnvites them to the sacrificial feast. II._ THE CHOSEN OF THE LORD, 6â€"13. _ The Irish Nationalist of his hands. TORONTO â€"Ps. 78:70â€"72. It‘s Always Fair Weather When Millionaires Get T Especially if Someone Elss "I‘m almost sure that‘s an old acâ€" quaintance of mine sitting over there." "Then why don‘t you speak to him ?" "Weisd he‘s so shy that he might feel awkward if it turned out to be someone else." of the peasant, but before militarism took shape the extent was regulated and more or less calculable. It had dts limit, for after a certain point a district would turn and bring the traâ€" ditional Chinese weapon of riots and tradeâ€"guild strikes to bear against the officials. Toâ€"day masses of brutalized undisciplined and unpaid soldiers are moving about the country eating it up like locusts, taking the farmer‘s catâ€" tle and crops, stealing his tiny savâ€" ings, cutting down his trees, and even tearing the timbers out of his roof to use as firewood. Militarism in China London Round Table: For millions of Chinese peasants life is expressed in terms of "ping," that is "soldfers." The word implies almost inconceiyâ€" able misery. To be "squeezed" by those in authority is the accepted lot Warming Ourselves (Luke 22.55) Peter sits by the fireâ€"the night is cold! And warms himselt, rubbing his numbing hands, ‘ While Jesus at the bar of Annas stands, Where baseless charges are against Him told. * Prejudice is for Justice robedâ€"and stoled. Peter‘s denials by the bird of dawn Are timed; days are recalled that, now seem gone Down life‘s dead slopes, for Memory‘s glances hold Like naught beside. So it has often been. Comfort‘s fire burning bright, tho world outside Lost like a traveller on his starless way, While Compromise, Fear, Faith sit side by side; But when a like glance in those eyces is seen, ; Life‘s loyalties soon know a brighter: | A Government School of Bakâ€" f ing in Ontario College (€:. of Agriculture A distinct innovation in Canadian educational work is the opening of a Iochoo:- of baking 1 the Ontario Colege of Agriculture in Guelph, Ont. Trent l Institute is the name of the new ’thol, a splendid structure which has ‘just been officially opened and formâ€" [ ally presented to the Ontario Govâ€" ‘etnment by J, Dutton, president of the Bread & Cake Bakers‘ Association of Canada, which organization, together with the allied trades, was responsible for the construction and equipment | of the building. H. E. Barnard, head of the American School of Baking. Mr. Trent presentâ€" ed to Professor Reynolds a check for $500 for a scholarship for the first year. Mr. Wiltshire, on behalf of the Fleischmann Yeast Company, made an offer to contribute $500 a year for ten years for scholarship purposes, Eight students comprising Trent Institute‘s were Sir Robert Falconer, president of the University of Toronto; W, R. Motherwell, Federal Minister of Agriâ€" culture; John Martin, Provincial Minisâ€" ter of Agriculture; H. E. Trent and H. E. Trent, the man who has been chiefly responsible for the campaign put on to collect for its construction. At the official presentation, Howard Ferguson, Premier of Ontario and Minister of Education, expressed the hope that the example would be folâ€" lowed by other trades. Among those who gave addresses on this significant occasion, which marks the linking up of trade and tho higher education, The school developed from a short course in baking. It is named after day, $ 4s u* â€"Alexander Louis Fraser, Halifar Channel Islands Are British But They Observe Norman Law New School were presented with "Fish grow in a miraculous way in this region." "I can scarcely believe that." ‘"Well, jus} get one of these anglers to tell you more than once about some fish he‘s caught." P t m WTTees |from which the nations of Europe fare descended and about their physical [and mental influence upon neationalâ€" Itles is extromely small; most of the "facts" relied upon to prove that thlnl‘ or that race or this or that nation is the salt of the earth are found upon investigation to be merely the pinâ€"‘ nacle of a pyramid of hypotheses. And when I find a nationalist who believes | that he and his countrymen belong to | a race which is not the purest, the noblest, and the most energetic in the | world, I shall begin toâ€" think that! dolichocephalic (or brach'ycephailc, as | the case may be) has at last ceased | to be only another word for jingo. 1 Leonard Woolf in the London Naâ€" tion and Athenaeum. Racial delusions â€"« . . explode as soon as they are touched by the facts regarding the racial constitution and history of existâ€" ing nations. . , . The amount which is really known about the racial stocks and writer spent so many years of exile and whore those masterpieces of literature, "Les Miserables" and "Les Travaillours de la Mer," were written, Among the visiting dawyers were Henri Nazard, dean of the "Faculte de Droit," Charles Astou, M. E. Bridrey and M, R. Genestal, professors of the Faculto de Droit de Caen; Max Rodin, professor of the University of Caliâ€" fornia, U.S.A., and many others noted in historical research,. These visitors received a warm welcome in Guernsey. Sir Havilland de Sausmarez, bailiff of Guernsey, was the president d‘Honâ€" noeur, and the bailiff of Jersey; Sir W. VenablesVernon was also here to welâ€" come the guests. ‘ The Royal Court House was placed at their disposal and most bearned were the papers discussed while the visitors in their turn were given the opportunity of visiting historic sites, attending feudal courts and watching the inherited laws of Normaniy in active operation through the Royal Courts of Guernsey, One paper of noteworthy interest was contributed by a local advocate, describing the acâ€" tion of the most feuwdal court in the British Empire, that of the Island of Sark, which was instituted by charter , of Queen Elizabeth and which, â€" with modifications granted by successive sovereigns of England, remain to«day | the governing system of that gem of | the Channel Islands. | In Guernsey, though English barris ters are not denied m hearing on 0¢â€" caston, the local "advocate" is requirâ€" ed to pass centain examinations in law at the University of Caen, because of the fundamental connection beâ€" tween Guerneey land tenure and the ancient daws of Normandy. To this similarity of laws Guernsey owed its selection as the meeting place of the eminent French lawyers for the "Semaine de Droit Normand." The visit coincided, too, with the transference from the desoendants of Victor Hugo to the City of Paris, of Hauteville House where the great poet Guernséy Courts Guernsoyâ€"An outstanding event in the annals of the Island of Guernsey, ons of the beautiful Channel Isles, was the recent visit of a group of French lawâ€"profesgors, which emphasizes in an interesting manner the close his toric relationship between Normandy and all the islands composing the Channel group. Deputation of French Law Professors Watch Unique Nationality and Nonsense iCs )\:g s SpP Eis@ asy| | How Fish Grow, to joak out," Heâ€"Darling, shal; we tell anybody we‘re engaged?" Bheâ€""No, I want it ameorthl s T ESEIE eP ‘*Palaver," belonging to the British Inâ€" structional Films, Ltd., was made with the coâ€"operation of the Nigerian Govâ€" ernment and depicts the strugzles of Empire builders on the outskirts of civilization, Wherever shown in England it has been a&pproved It was sold to an agent for Canade, but the renters, all American, refused to put it upon the Canadian screens, apparently because its atmosphere is British and the flag that triumphs is not the Stars and Stripes, but the Union Jack. That A flm of real Imperial interest, dealing with a subject that cannot possibly run Annatas VWBCRC 8 ' UP Cl tetee "Ererest, whould be barred entry to a British Dominion by American intermediaries kn Mabk® c oak London United Empire: (The can "movie marnates" have a eye to all the upleasant facts of a rituation which has steadily gone from bad to worse since the leaders of the Cantonese Party made the amazing discovery that the foreigner is preâ€" pared to surrender his treaty rights and valuable vested interests to mob violence and organized intimidation, |\ _ "We realize now,‘ he said, "that the ; ideal arrangemiont is a small, highly |trained permanent army and a large |citizen army.. But the citizen group must be well trined with rifies,. They cannot wait until warâ€"time if they are to be effective, The expense of trainâ€" Ing them is too great in most cases |and their value is greatly lossened. I think my plan will solve that probâ€" |lem." General lamont expressed the #>â€" Mef that every nation should manufacâ€" ture its own equipment, and he thereâ€" fore is willing to sell foreign rights to the United States and continue with his own company in producing the ’ew'.:nent for the army of Great Britâ€" |ain. The equipment varies in cost in | England from about $15 to $35. Best |m have been found at a 4‘~tanco it:t about twenty yards, and results are as good in daylight as we‘l as in a Carkened room, sald the inventor. !He is perfecting a toy on the same plan «> that chiliren may became intorswed and be devoloped cs rifcmen, J. O. P. Bland in the Boston Atlant‘c Monthily. During the five years which have slapsed since the Conference, America‘s policy has been to gain the confidence and friendship of the Chinese by "liberality in policy and gencrosity in action." Engiand, {oâ€" lowing this lead, has persisted, at no pmall cost to British interests, in her attitude of "patience and conciliation." In both cases*the assumption underlyâ€" ing the policy adopted is that out of the present chaos a stable and efhective Government will in time emerge, suitâ€" ed to the character and needs of the nation. It is an assumption that can only be maintained by turning a blind ‘a whole countryside would furnish, | and the housing and food expense, as lwell as munitions cost is done away with. Several units of the British Army have bought the equipment from Gencral Lamont developed his i1c0 in years spent in the training or re cruits and in improving his persone! firing ability. The equipmont, which he perfected a few months ago and is now manufacturing in England, can be used in perfecting schocboys and cadots. private funds ,although Government @ppropriations were not sufficient last year to allow the whole army to 0b» tain it, Atachments have been made to fit antiâ€"airoraft guns, machine guns, arâ€" tilery and tank armament as well as the ordinary revolver and service riflie, General Lamont pointed out that the ordinary armory can be used as a practice field with the same nesults as trigger is pulled. No ammunition is needed, but the light of the contrivâ€" ance sbhows as clearly as the bullat hole would show where the gun was almed. General Lamont explained his invenâ€" tion as a combination electric lamp and reflector, which ere fitted to the revolver or rife and flash a spot of light on a target at the mark where a bullet would have struck when the or attachment to nevolvers and rifics, which he invented as a short cut to developing firing ability at small cost. He has gone to Washington after a bried stay in New York, and will conâ€" fer with General Charles P,. Summerâ€" all, Chiet of Staff. F. Lamont, who retined recently from the British Army, after having sorved thirty years, has come to the United Etates to place before American Army oflicials the features of a flashâ€"spotter, Attachment on Rifle or Pistol Aids Marksmanship, Says Inventorâ€"Offers to Sell Rights Here Acting on the advice of American attaches in London, Brig. Gen. J, W. The Americanization of Brig. Gen. Lamont of British Army Brings Invention to Show U.S. Experts New Device Helps <â€"~4oeamaie Accurate Shooting BUSINESS FLASHâ€"SPOTTER magnates" have absolute the Canadian market.) any American interest, Chira t, which ago and and, can oys and Ameriâ€" â€" ‘Trade Volume Ah Yearâ€"Record putâ€"Mines Ottawa.â€"Business in tinues at a good pace. plants are unusually b dise distribution is bei at a high level; auto tion is setting new re employment situation couraging. meet othc: The may 3« While the acrea; In the Canadian W be somewhat sma owing to delay in : crop gituation is p pocts are splendic ture, the cool wea velonp good roots ing C more ti ing 1 The Wis While a lation i in com to obta tate # Canada eppa strong comin The W fth ht typ ming years wWi!! min it too speed eacrifices which Meake Haste 8 h s dGe om o th